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Saw the Sully movie tonight, was really good and would recommend it to our our west friends, would luv to hear how the wife beater and credit card fraud boy Duane could have made the plane fly.
 
AAPilots.com is praising Capt. Lori Cline for helping Clint Eastwood with details in the movie "Sully". They forgot to include how Capt. Cline was critical of Sully in the post accident report for taxiing on two engines instead of single engine taxi. The taxi ways had patches of ice and the outside air temperature was very cold. Starting two was a good choice under these conditions.
Go Sully
 
CaptainBigWood said:
AAPilots.com is praising Capt. Lori Cline for helping Clint Eastwood with details in the movie "Sully". They forgot to include how Capt. Cline was critical of Sully in the post accident report for taxiing on two engines instead of single engine taxi.
 
She's been a career training and flight dept management (low level) suckup wanna-be with minimal line experience.  She never should have been involved in the investigation or the movie.  The other three sim pilots in the movie are well thought of.
 






 
CaptainBigWood said:
The taxi ways had patches of ice and the outside air temperature was very cold. Starting two was a good choice under these conditions.
 





 
Bigtime.
 
Dorothy, check in with us we know you have been lurking we miss all those legal posts, are you in the "funny farm".
 
Seriously ..............what gives Dorothy are we selling new ties?



September 12, 2016 update


http://www.cactuspilot.com



"In the meantime, the West Merger Committee has a few remaining expenses and we must be prepared to fund the Dispute Resolution Committee because APA will not do that for us. USAPA, while breaching its DFR to West pilots and negotiating the Protocol Agreement, which governs these matters, made sure of that. It is a fact that Leonidas, LLC is the sole funding source for these matters and for the forgoing reasons; your contributions are still needed. "

Sincerely,

Leonidas, LLC
 
cltrat said:
letme get this straight ,we have a woman beater and a basic thief, questioning one of the greatest saves in aviation history.......... wow hard to really say anything other wtf?

The america west pilots as a group cannot handle Sullenberger. He stood up for his fellow pilots. They expected him to give his seniority to the angry 2004 hires such as Simmons.
Sullenberger and Skiles restored much needed respect to the profession.
The awa pilots look like a$$es when they say anything about Sully.
Meanwhile, Ray Burkett continues his whining sob story on C&R about how he cannot retire out of a 777 left seat he never had to begin with, at age 60. What an absolute tragedy Ray....
 
Attention: AWAPPA SHOPPERS! (Part II)

A couple of U-Turns ago, we sent one out called “Don’t Worry, Be Happy!” We still believe it. And we still believe that as long as ALPA is off the property, they can’t pull a “fair and equitable” on us and force us to share UAL’s Downsizing pain. Yes, you ARE protected by the TA. And nothing AWAPPA says is going to change that.

But our former MEC leadership is still in total denial. They act like ALPA is still the CBA. Former LAS FO Rep Ray Burkett is living in a dream world. This is the “Ray Solution:”

From: <rburkett@surewest.net>
To: <jongarcia@cox.net>; "Scott Lillard" <Spctrigerman@aol.com>;
<RKOsmon@aol.com>; "CJ Szmal" <cactuszmal@cox.net>; <mitchvasin@gmail.com>; <john.mcilvenna@awappa.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: U-Turn: ATTN: AWAPPA Shoppers!

Well this was what I has hoping to avoid!! The key here people is to set
up with UAL and get a prenup. Parker and team are not about to let u sap
ass block their deal with UAL. We need to focus on reaching out to as many
people in the UAL MEC as we ALL CAN. FENCE the prick in the east for 30yrs

Ray Burkett
C82 First officer Rep
Vice Chairman

Earth to Ray! Set up a “prenup” with UAL? Ray, ALPA’s not our CBA any more. And YOU aren’t the C82 FO Rep anymore. C82 doesn’t exist anymore. In fact, the entire LAS base isn’t going to last through the fall!

Sorry, Ray, but the UAL MEC isn’t going to give you or AWAPPA the time of day. They are represented by ALPA and ALPA is hanging it out if they negotiate with any group that isn’t the CBA. If they do and get caught at it, they could end up with a DFR that will make their $50+ million Duke-Spellacy settlement in the 1990s look like a parking ticket fine. The UAL MEC Merger Attorney is AWAPPA’s Jeff Freund. Can you say conflict of interest? How can he represent us and the UAL pilots at the same time? How can he give us any legal advice on defending the NIC while he’s representing UAL’s MEC? If a merger announcement is made, who do you think he will represent?

Enough of Ray’s fantasy union. At the bottom of this U-Turn is a summary of the first round of planned reductions over at UAL. The source is their internal employee “newsline.” We believe that the information is authentic. Note that the “first set of changes… will enable us to remove 30 of our B737 aircraft, the least efficient of our fleet.” At 6.5 crews (13 pilots) per aircraft, that’s a hit of 390 pilots on the streets. Proportionally, that would mean a furlough of about 148 LCC pilots if we were “fairly and equitably” sharing the pain.

The UAL internal forecast is just a blip on the radar screen when compared to the “What if” comments by Chicago Tribune reporter Julie Johnsson, written yesterday. According to her article (paraphrased, because of copy write laws – the link is: <http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-sun-united-tilton-mergermay11,0,1669926.story>http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-sun-united-tilton-mergermay11,0,1669926.story), the New “U” could park the entire 737-300 fleet (111 aircraft) of both carriers, producing over a billion dollars synergies.

At 13 pilots per plane, that’s an 11% reduction or 1443-pilot furlough from the total of approximately 13,000 active pilots. Proportionally, under ALPA’s “fair and equitable pain sharing,” the West hit could be about 192 furloughs.

So, does anyone really want a piece of that “fair and equitable” ALPA-pie or a Ray Burkett “prenup?” As much as you might hate USAPA, Ray, they do control both contracts. More importantly, they control the TA and its floor of 120 West planes and 202 East planes.

The U-Turn
 
luvthe9 said:
Dorothy, check in with us we know you have been lurking we miss all those legal posts, are you in the "funny farm".

Simmons must have taken a shower with his favorite toaster.....
 
Claxon said:
Simmons must have taken a shower with his favorite toaster.....

His coworkers threw in the toaster since he lied to them and destroyed their careers, and now they seem to be starting another fund raiser, how stupid are these west pilots.
 
luvthe9 said:
His coworkers threw in the toaster since he lied to them and destroyed their careers, and now they seem to be starting another fund raiser, how stupid are these west pilots.
what happened to the financial windfall they were suppose to get from USAPA?
 
 
"Today I scammed the Beau Rivage casino with a fake credit card, beat the snot out of my wife and exposed Sully for the fraud that he is.  Who's ready for a drink?!"
 






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luvthe9 said:
Seriously ..............what gives Dorothy are we selling new ties?



September 12, 2016 update


http://www.cactuspilot.com



"In the meantime, the West Merger Committee has a few remaining expenses and we must be prepared to fund the Dispute Resolution Committee because APA will not do that for us. USAPA, while breaching its DFR to West pilots and negotiating the Protocol Agreement, which governs these matters, made sure of that. It is a fact that Leonidas, LLC is the sole funding source for these matters and for the forgoing reasons; your contributions are still needed. "

Sincerely,

Leonidas, LLC
 
"your contributions are still needed." No doubt they're enjoying tremendous success with that.
 
dariencc said:
 






 
"Today I scammed the Beau Rivage casino with a fake credit card, beat the snot out of my wife and exposed Sully for the fraud that he is.  Who's ready for a drink?!"
 






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Well, at least the poor fellow demonstrates impeccable "taste" in his attire. I'm surprised GQ magazine hasn't already offered him a cover boy shoot session. Of course it goes without saying that Hollywood execs will at least be calling him to star in their "Sully is a Fraud" film that's doubtless in the works as well. I must also imagine major publishing houses will be offering huge bonuses for his forthcoming motivational tips for living a "Good" life book: "There's ALWAYS a 'Good' Engine Somewhere in Your 'Mind".
 
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