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James E. Gillespie says:
Price is a little steep coming from an author that is biased against a certain pilot group. And the airline management that saved USAirways and now American Airlines from bankruptcy. The former USAirways was only a week or so from liquidation.
I am not sure you could trust the facts in this book. I would not spend my money on it.
As a former American Airlines pilot, America West Airlines pilot , UsAirways pilot, and once again an American Airlines pilot, I already know the true story. I have lived it. Ted Reed? not so much.
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Price is a little steep coming from an author that is biased against a certain pilot group. And the airline management that saved USAirways and now American Airlines from bankruptcy. The former USAirways was only a week or so from liquidation.
I am not sure you could trust the facts in this book. I would not spend my money on it.
As a former American Airlines pilot, America West Airlines pilot , UsAirways pilot, and once again an American Airlines pilot, I already know the true story. I have lived it. Ted Reed? not so much.
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Robert Baldock says:
39.95, for a paperback? Wow, Ted must have had to spend a fortune hiring an editor/ghost writer for this piece of fiction. Maybe there is a full color fold-out compete with route maps and Tinker
39.95, for a paperback? Wow, Ted must have had to spend a fortune hiring an editor/ghost writer for this piece of fiction. Maybe there is a full color fold-out compete with route maps and Tinker
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Claxon said:
Bobby Baldock had a very distinguished carrer as an Eastern scab before joining AWA.
He immediately hit it off with F/O Mike Daley and the rest of the guys. Cap'n Aux and cactusboy are proud to call him a friend.
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And was willing to buy $25,000 in company stock to fly a Dash 8.luvthe9 said:
Or was it $35,000 - I forget.
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Federal Judicial Service
U. S. District Court, District of New Mexico
Nominated by Ronald Reagan on May 2, 1983, to a seat vacated by Edwin L. Mechem; Confirmed by the Senate on June 6, 1983, and received commission on June 7, 1983. Service terminated on January 24, 1986, due to appointment to another judicial position.
U. S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
Nominated by Ronald Reagan on October 7, 1985, to a seat vacated by Oliver Seth; Confirmed by the Senate on December 16, 1985, and received commission on December 17, 1985. Assumed senior status on January 26, 2001.
Education
New Mexico Military Institute, 1956
University of Arizona College of Law, J.D., 1960
Professional History
Captain, Adjutant General Staff, New Mexico National Guard, 1960-1970
Private practice, Roswell, New Mexico, 1960-1983
Adjunct professor, Eastern New Mexico University, Roswell Campus, 1962-1981
Federal Judicial Service
U. S. District Court, District of New Mexico
Nominated by Ronald Reagan on May 2, 1983, to a seat vacated by Edwin L. Mechem; Confirmed by the Senate on June 6, 1983, and received commission on June 7, 1983. Service terminated on January 24, 1986, due to appointment to another judicial position.
U. S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
Nominated by Ronald Reagan on October 7, 1985, to a seat vacated by Oliver Seth; Confirmed by the Senate on December 16, 1985, and received commission on December 17, 1985. Assumed senior status on January 26, 2001.
Education
New Mexico Military Institute, 1956
University of Arizona College of Law, J.D., 1960
Professional History
Captain, Adjutant General Staff, New Mexico National Guard, 1960-1970
Private practice, Roswell, New Mexico, 1960-1983
Adjunct professor, Eastern New Mexico University, Roswell Campus, 1962-1981
Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
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Appointed by George W. Bush
Preceded by Procter Hug
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Born Jay Scott Bybee
October 27, 1953 (age 62)
Oakland, California, U.S.
Spouse(s) Dianna Greer (1986–present)
Alma mater Brigham Young University
Jay Scott Bybee (born October 27, 1953) is a federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. He has published numerous articles in law journals[1] and has taught in law school. His primary research interests are in constitutional and administrative law.
While serving in the Bush administration as the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, United States Department of Justice, he signed the controversial "Torture Memos" in August 2002. These authorized "enhanced interrogation techniques" that were used in the systematic torture of detainees at Guantanamo Bay detention camp beginning in 2002 and at the Abu Ghraib facility following the United States' invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Incumbent
Assumed office
March 21, 2003
Appointed by George W. Bush
Preceded by Procter Hug
Personal details
Born Jay Scott Bybee
October 27, 1953 (age 62)
Oakland, California, U.S.
Spouse(s) Dianna Greer (1986–present)
Alma mater Brigham Young University
Jay Scott Bybee (born October 27, 1953) is a federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. He has published numerous articles in law journals[1] and has taught in law school. His primary research interests are in constitutional and administrative law.
While serving in the Bush administration as the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, United States Department of Justice, he signed the controversial "Torture Memos" in August 2002. These authorized "enhanced interrogation techniques" that were used in the systematic torture of detainees at Guantanamo Bay detention camp beginning in 2002 and at the Abu Ghraib facility following the United States' invasion of Iraq in 2003.
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The Beauty of Sully: How Clint Eastwood Turned Chesley Sullenberger Into a Countercultural Hero
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Sully MovieCOURTESY OF WARNER BROS.
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When I first heard that Clint Eastwood was going to turn the story of Capt. Chesley Sully Sullenberger into a major motion picture, I had two thoughts: first, that the subject seemed almost too on-the-nose and down-the-middle-of-the-plate for a Hollywood heroic saga. (It sounded like the sort of thing that would have been a routine network TV-movie back in the 80s or early 90s.) And second, that the film might be more challenging to bring off than it initially seemed. After all, when Sullenberger glided US Airways Flight 1549 down onto the Hudson River on Jan. 15, 2009, the entire emergency landing, from engine failure to plane stoppage, took three-and-a-half minutes. (Or more exactly, to quote a now-famous line, 208 seconds.) What was Eastwood going to do for the rest of the movie? At the time of the event, both the Miracle on the Hudson and Sully himself were so rapturously celebrated, by human beings around the planet and by the media coverage that channeled (and, to a degree, drove) their affection and hero worship, that a drama about the event, made seven years later, would seem to have almost nothing new to discover.
Sully, of course, has turned out to be a movie that leaves audiences at once stirred and enthralled. At its center is Tom Hanks most captivating performance since Cast Away (he dials himself down to Sullys simmering quietude, and is riveting as a result), and the drama is a model of canny construction and almost invisibly sly classical moviemaking. Eastwood structures it beautifully, circling around the cataclysmic event, coming at it from a plethora of angles, even staging alternate disaster scenarios (so that the movie, in the words of Variety critic Peter Debruge, offers six plane crashes for the price of one). In doing so, he gives you the feeling that the story of the Miracle on the Hudson is much larger than those 208 seconds. And Sully demonstrates that it is.
Yet the canniest thing that Eastwood did, and the most personal too (for it emerges directly out of his right-wing Western freedom-rider mystique), is to take a figure like Sully Sullenberger, who seemed to be a hero out of central casting bold, modest, quick of reflex, valiant yet self-effacing and reconfigure him from a man who exemplifies America at its best to a man who stands in opposition to most of the reigning currents of our society. In the movie, theres a force thats threatening to drag Sully down, and that force is the well-meaning government-meets-corporate nitpicking bureaucracy. It has made too many regulations, relies too much on the dubious wisdom of statistics and technology, and has fundamentally lost touch with the human factor. Sully is a rousing piece of entertainment, but the films resonant and touching glory is that its the celebration of a rock-solid 50s man who has grown taller than the world around him because he relies, in a tight spot, on nothing but himself and therefore irony of ironies now looks like an outlier. Sully has become the story of a countercultural hero.
The forces that Sully is up against, as he faces down the second-guessing suits of the National Transportation Safety Board, stand in for the lockstep, follow-the-rules-or-youre-gone mentality that has taken over the very form and spirit of American life. What you say, what you do, even what you think: Theres an increasingly prevailing sense, right or wrong, that the protocols of work and government now dictate more and more of the hoops we all have to jump through and, indeed, everything that we are. The theme of the individual who feels beaten down by the larger machine is, of course, not new; its one of the central themes of the last century. But whats bracing about Sully is that it presents us with someone who acted out of fearless strength and skill, and was justly lionized for it all over the world, and the movie says: In our era, its not just you or me who can feel worked over by the bureaucracy. Even Sully Sullenberger got worked over by the bureaucracy. If hes not safe, who is?
Pay attention west pilots who attack Sully.
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Owen Gleiberman
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Sully MovieCOURTESY OF WARNER BROS.
SEPTEMBER 25, 2016 | 11:51AM PT
When I first heard that Clint Eastwood was going to turn the story of Capt. Chesley Sully Sullenberger into a major motion picture, I had two thoughts: first, that the subject seemed almost too on-the-nose and down-the-middle-of-the-plate for a Hollywood heroic saga. (It sounded like the sort of thing that would have been a routine network TV-movie back in the 80s or early 90s.) And second, that the film might be more challenging to bring off than it initially seemed. After all, when Sullenberger glided US Airways Flight 1549 down onto the Hudson River on Jan. 15, 2009, the entire emergency landing, from engine failure to plane stoppage, took three-and-a-half minutes. (Or more exactly, to quote a now-famous line, 208 seconds.) What was Eastwood going to do for the rest of the movie? At the time of the event, both the Miracle on the Hudson and Sully himself were so rapturously celebrated, by human beings around the planet and by the media coverage that channeled (and, to a degree, drove) their affection and hero worship, that a drama about the event, made seven years later, would seem to have almost nothing new to discover.
Sully, of course, has turned out to be a movie that leaves audiences at once stirred and enthralled. At its center is Tom Hanks most captivating performance since Cast Away (he dials himself down to Sullys simmering quietude, and is riveting as a result), and the drama is a model of canny construction and almost invisibly sly classical moviemaking. Eastwood structures it beautifully, circling around the cataclysmic event, coming at it from a plethora of angles, even staging alternate disaster scenarios (so that the movie, in the words of Variety critic Peter Debruge, offers six plane crashes for the price of one). In doing so, he gives you the feeling that the story of the Miracle on the Hudson is much larger than those 208 seconds. And Sully demonstrates that it is.
Yet the canniest thing that Eastwood did, and the most personal too (for it emerges directly out of his right-wing Western freedom-rider mystique), is to take a figure like Sully Sullenberger, who seemed to be a hero out of central casting bold, modest, quick of reflex, valiant yet self-effacing and reconfigure him from a man who exemplifies America at its best to a man who stands in opposition to most of the reigning currents of our society. In the movie, theres a force thats threatening to drag Sully down, and that force is the well-meaning government-meets-corporate nitpicking bureaucracy. It has made too many regulations, relies too much on the dubious wisdom of statistics and technology, and has fundamentally lost touch with the human factor. Sully is a rousing piece of entertainment, but the films resonant and touching glory is that its the celebration of a rock-solid 50s man who has grown taller than the world around him because he relies, in a tight spot, on nothing but himself and therefore irony of ironies now looks like an outlier. Sully has become the story of a countercultural hero.
The forces that Sully is up against, as he faces down the second-guessing suits of the National Transportation Safety Board, stand in for the lockstep, follow-the-rules-or-youre-gone mentality that has taken over the very form and spirit of American life. What you say, what you do, even what you think: Theres an increasingly prevailing sense, right or wrong, that the protocols of work and government now dictate more and more of the hoops we all have to jump through and, indeed, everything that we are. The theme of the individual who feels beaten down by the larger machine is, of course, not new; its one of the central themes of the last century. But whats bracing about Sully is that it presents us with someone who acted out of fearless strength and skill, and was justly lionized for it all over the world, and the movie says: In our era, its not just you or me who can feel worked over by the bureaucracy. Even Sully Sullenberger got worked over by the bureaucracy. If hes not safe, who is?
Pay attention west pilots who attack Sully.
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Claxon said:
Lot of good it did them................no NIC ............Wye River .
"Yes, the East offered the NIC. They just wanted to protect their retirement attrition, which stalled by the change in Age-60. Looking back, that offer must look like a home run to any West pilot right now, "
We would like to thank all you westies for holding the line on NIC or nothing.
dariencc said:
Bobby Baldock had a very distinguished carrer as an Eastern scab before joining AWA.
He immediately hit it off with F/O Mike Daley and the rest of the guys. Cap'n Aux and cactusboy are proud to call him a friend.
I punched out from EAL when the first whiff of lorenzo's stench became apparent, but it was a sad decision to have to make. It needed no Nostradamus to sadly foretell the future there...nor does it "here" with the existing "leadership", but that's another story. EAL had a bunch of great guys and was a "Pilot's Airline" before it all completely died in corporate, conniving hell. Captain "Eddie" Rickenbacker must still be rolling over in his grave about what happened to it. Can't say I've ever much had any kind words for scabs, and to see such a perfectly pictured, bespectacled little "aren't I cute?" mommy's boy/scab's picture does nothing to enhance my "warm" feelings there, save for perhaps adding even more general disgust for their ilk.
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P.S. Just even try to imagine the true "pride" any decent man could EVER, even possibly feel from; "Nobody else would hire me 'till lorenzo needed SCABS at Eastern, and after that, well...the very best I could do was join the SCABS at AWA"...? That truly takes a very "special" sort of "person"....."Cap'n Aux and cactusboy are proud to call him a friend."? Somehow, that fails to surprise me at any level.
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