2015 Pilot Discussion.

[CactusPilot1]

And we're still here.

The APA is still here. USAPA was decertified.

 

[luvthe9]

The APA is still here. USAPA was decertified.

Yes, the APA is still here and the NIC is decertified. So when are you going to sue the APA.



This is going to be fun to watch.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Yes, the APA is still here and the NIC is decertified. So when are you going to sue the APA.
This is going to be fun to watch.

It's more fun watching you, poser-loser. You just come here to stir the pot. It's called a logbook, not a lock book. Glad you caught on and corrected your post after I questioned you. Who's kid are you? Claxon's?

 

[Claxon]

Reading item 18(M) FAA Form 8500-8:
Being pissed off because a group reneges on binding arbitration doesn't require the box to be checked "yes".

Perhaps you should have taken a field trip to PHX to get informed on your so called binding arbitration.....

November 11, 2008 (Q&A in Phoenix with Doug Parker)

Pilot: . . . . My question though is I was at the hearing for the furloughed guys and one of the possibilities they were discussing is moving 190s to the west and cant do that. You know why.

Parker: Why

Pilot: Binding arbitration. So the company believes in binding arbitration. We have a binding arbitration for seniority. Does the company believe in binding arbitration or not?

Parker: The binding arbitration youre talking about I think Im pretty sure what you are talking about that was an ALPA process that resulted in binding arbitration. That wasnt a company process. Thats ALPA to ALPA seniority integration that says if you cant get it resolved we go to binding arbitration is ALPA policy not company policy. If the companys in binding arbitration, yea we believe in binding arbitration.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Perhaps you should have taken a field trip to PHX to get informed on your so called binding arbitration.....
November 11, 2008 (Q&A in Phoenix with Doug Parker)
Pilot: . . . . My question though is I was at the hearing for the furloughed guys and one of the possibilities they were discussing is moving 190s to the west and cant do that. You know why.
Parker: Why
Pilot: Binding arbitration. So the company believes in binding arbitration. We have a binding arbitration for seniority. Does the company believe in binding arbitration or not?
Parker: The binding arbitration youre talking about I think Im pretty sure what you are talking about that was an ALPA process that resulted in binding arbitration. That wasnt a company process. Thats ALPA to ALPA seniority integration that says if you cant get it resolved we go to binding arbitration is ALPA policy not company policy. If the companys in binding arbitration, yea we believe in binding arbitration.

The APA should make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's prior when dealing with Usapians otherwise, they will be wasting their time.

Take note, APA. Your binding arbitration may have a so-called binding arbitration clause as well.

 

[luvthe9]

Authorities allege that Edward Myer and Valerie Hayes hatched a plan to get back at Hayes' ex-husband for threatening to tell Myer's wife about the pair's affair. MCSO
Authorities allege that Edward Myer and Valerie Hayes hatched a plan to get back at Hayes' ex-husband for threatening to tell Myer's wife about the pair's affair.



Read more: http://archive.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/03/16/20100316phoenix-high-school-coach-beating16-ON.html#ixzz3VnuyzsES

 

[luvthe9]

Perhaps you should have taken a field trip to PHX to get informed on your so called binding arbitration.....
November 11, 2008 (Q&A in Phoenix with Doug Parker)
Pilot: . . . . My question though is I was at the hearing for the furloughed guys and one of the possibilities they were discussing is moving 190s to the west and cant do that. You know why.
Parker: Why
Pilot: Binding arbitration. So the company believes in binding arbitration. We have a binding arbitration for seniority. Does the company believe in binding arbitration or not?
Parker: The binding arbitration youre talking about I think Im pretty sure what you are talking about that was an ALPA process that resulted in binding arbitration. That wasnt a company process. Thats ALPA to ALPA seniority integration that says if you cant get it resolved we go to binding arbitration is ALPA policy not company policy. If the companys in binding arbitration, yea we believe in binding arbitration.

U-Turn: Replies to former West negotiator Jim Van Sickle U-Turn recognized that only ALPA could guarantee the NIC. With ALPA gone, and no participation by the West in USAPA, the NIC is dead. If you don't think so, file a DFR and see how far it goes.

 

[luvthe9]

our MEC ended up getting 175 West pilots furloughed, because they refused to negotiate and THEY TURNED DOWN THE OFFER!

From what we’ve been told, Jeff Freund left the Wye River conference out of frustration over our MEC’s refusal to negotiate a compromise. Our MEC says they held the line. If failure to negotiate, causing 175 furloughs, is holding the line, great job, guys. The East MEC made an offer that would have prevented Dave O’Dell from being furloughed. You turned it down.

 

[luvthe9]

“In the US Airways – America West case, it went to binding arbitration but there was a requirement as part of that that the two unions negotiate a joint contract with the company, which wasn’t done yet.

And because it wasn’t done yet, the side that didn’t like it could prevent a joint contract from getting done. And because of that, the seniority integration never happened."

Scott Kirby

 

[EastUS1]

".....and falsifying log book entries."
 

Dismissed in court.

 
Guess again.
 
While ever-busying yourself trumpeting the supposed virtues of your position; might we trouble "you'se" to take a moment to explain even just the log book issue alone? Any at all reasonable attempt to even begin to try and explain the "thought" processes behind that absurdly infantile antic would prove most amusing....So? I'm sure we're all eagerly awaiting ANY explanation behind the righteous wisdom so maturely demonstrated there, as I'll guess is the FAA.

 

[CactusPilot1]

".....and falsifying log book entries."
 

 
Guess again.
 
While ever-busying yourself trumpeting the supposed virtues of your position; might we trouble "you'se" to take a moment to explain even just the log book issue alone? Any at all reasonable attempt to even begin to try and explain the "thought" processes behind that absurdly infantile little antic would prove most amusing....So? I'm sure we're all eagerly awaiting ANY explanation behind the righteous wisdom so maturely demonstrated there, as I'll guess is the FAA.

What logbook issue? Or is it a lock book issue?

 

[EastUS1]

What logbook issue?

 
Have continued fun in Fantasyland...but do try not to get too dizzy on the rides.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Have continued fun in Fantasyland...but do try not to get too dizzy on the rides

Come back when you get some fingerprints and DNA, Capt Clouseau.

 

[luvthe9]

Come back when you get some fingerprints and DNA, Capt Cleausau.

That has been done, Hey which one of you idiots turned down the NIC when we offered it to you, it must really eat at you every single day and night.

 

[EastUS1]

While ever-busying yourself trumpeting the supposed virtues of your position; might we trouble "you'se" to take a moment to explain even just the log book issue alone? Any at all reasonable attempt to even begin to try and explain the "thought" processes behind that absurdly infantile little antic would prove most amusing....So? I'm sure we're all eagerly awaiting ANY explanation behind the righteous wisdom so maturely demonstrated there, as I'll guess is the FAA.

Come back when you get some fingerprints and DNA, Capt Cleausau.

 
Not my job. I feel that looking into this is best left in the hands of the FAA/DOT.
 
"I'm sure we're all eagerly awaiting ANY explanation behind the righteous wisdom so maturely demonstrated there,"
 
CactusPilot1: "Come back when you get some fingerprints and DNA, Capt Cleausau." Folks, one simply just couldn't begin to even try to make this stuff up.