2015 Pilot Discussion.

[luvthe9]

Who wouldn't want a secondary line of red eyes when they can work 8 island trips a month?
 
Have another piece of chicken.

And having the Captain hold your hand.


We'll all chip in and get you a bucket of CHICKEN if you can upgrade., your face should be on the bucket.


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[Claxon]

I respectfully disagree with you, marc the west pilot.
 
https://plus.google.com/103104148628531039884/posts/2nUEZLjK6dF?pid=5821916612087495426&oid=103104148628531039884

 

[Claxon]

 
Transition Negotiations Update—August 19, 2005
 
Negotiations for a Transition Letter of Agreement between the US Airways and America
West pilots and management representatives for both companies took place this week in
Phoenix at the America West MEC office. The pilot representatives present were Doug
Mowery, US Airways MEC Negotiating Committee Chairman, Dan Scola, Negotiating
Committee member, and Kim Snider, US Airways MEC Vice Chairman; Mark Burdick,
America West Negotiating Committee Chairman, Tony Lozano, AWA Negotiating
Committee Member, and John McIlvenna, AWA MEC Vice Chairman. ALPA staff
representatives were Bruce York, ALPA's Director of Representation, Jeffrey Small, US
Airways MEC Contract Administrator, and Andrew Shostack, AWA MEC Contract
Administrator. Company representatives present were Jerry Glass, AL Hemenway, Todd
Jewitt, and Beth Holdren, all from US Airways, and David Seymour of America West.
The pilot negotiators and representatives of each MEC continued to work well together in
addressing joint issues of concern with the Company. Transition Agreements are intended
to provide security and protection for pilots, as well as a structure to govern operations of
the companies during the period after the merger transaction is approved but before a
single operation, merged contract and combined seniority list become effective.
This week there was substantial discussion and negotiation of elements in a typical
transaction agreement. These talks included the following:
• Continued recognition of each MEC;
• Separate operation of pre-merger equipment by each airline during the interim
period;
• Protection of existing routes
• Minimum aircraft or equipment levels;
• Limitations on base closure;
• Company agreement to accept a merged seniority list;
• Procedural agreement for negotiation of a combined contract;
• Commitments on dates to merge the separate operations;
• Dispute resolution provisions; and
• Company contributions to each pilot group's merger fund and assistance with
Flight Pay Loss
Proposals were exchanged and progress was made in the above areas.
ALPA representatives continued to propose this week that certain economic
improvements be made before negotiations for a combined contract start in the areas of
pay and retirement benefits.
 
ALPA also continued to propose that the Transition Agreement include "no furlough" protection. We also stated that we must retain a seat on
the Board of Directors. Management has insisted that no additional cost increases can be
absorbed during the interim period and that pilot staffing levels are protected by the
provisions referenced above on minimum aircraft levels.
While formal negotiating sessions are not scheduled for next week, ALPA intends to hold
informal discussions with management on the key open issues. Following these
discussions, the MEC will be briefed on the status of the Transition Agreement for their
review and discussion prior to the September 15 bankruptcy court hearing to approve the
proposed US Airways Plan of Reorganization.
We will continue to keep you informed of all developments

Really alpa? A "no furlough" protections for the US Airways pilots?? 
 
This was done during a time when US Airways and united were contemplating a merger correct? 
 
I have more to add to this conversation in the future with links.
 
Best of luck to you.

 

[EastCheats]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Slow news day

 

[Claxon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Slow news day r

Slow attrition day as usual for you. 
 
You went from f/o on reserve status with a beeper and 10 years later you are an f/o on reserve with a cell phone. 
 
Slow progression.  ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 
Say hi to russ, hope his family is fed well now.  He was very concerned about his families welfare in his letters addressed to a few State Attorney Generals offices, regarding the AMR merger.

 

[EastCheats]

Slow attrition day as usual for you. 
 
You went from f/o on reserve status with a beeper and 10 years later you are an f/o on reserve with a cell phone. 
 
Slow progression.  ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 
Say hi to russ, hope his family is fed well now.  He was very concerned about his families welfare in his letters addressed to a few State Attorney Generals offices, regarding the AMR merger.

?????

Do these thoughts just pop in your head and.........

AWE...nevermind 😉

 

[Claxon]

vasalino? johnny mac?  The company was stalling whilist winking at you, not East pilots.  Well anyways, bohica.
 
http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pressroom/pressreleases/2007/2007-5-8_07.AAA-AWA4.htm

 

[luvthe9]

"U-Turn: Replies to former West negotiator Jim Van Sickle U-Turn recognized that only ALPA could guarantee the NIC. With ALPA gone, and no participation by the West in USAPA, the NIC is dead. If you don't think so, file a DFR and see how far it goes."



"Phoenix will be shrunk to serve 50 or so cities at max....it is a low-yielding hub...With a more bloated structure, the airline will be unable to support the same level of nonstops...PHX hub"



"Crew News meeting in PHX on 2/06/07 As CEO Parker told a three-year AW pilot complaining about AW's post-merger "stagnation" If we didn't do the merger with US Airways, you'd be in a lot worse position. Frankly, I think as a 3 [year] F/O, you wouldn't have a job"

 

[EastCheats]

April 23, 2015
BPR Special Meeting Notice

In accordance with the USAPA Constitution & Bylaws Article V Section 3, and USAPA UOM Section 3 Paragraph II.a.1, President Steve Bradford has called a Special Meeting of the USAPA Board of Pilot Representatives, at the USAPA offices in Charlotte. It will commence at 1000 ET on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 and conclude at 1700 ET or at the conclusion of business.

The planned agenda for the meeting is:

Merger Committee Update
Litigation Update
Other Business
USAPA Communications

You might want to add fundraising to the agenda.

 

[Black Swan]

Wow, we are going to all get some serious profit sharing checks!

 

[EastUS1]

You might want to add fundraising to the agenda.

 
No doubt you can at least post yet another "T-minus" countdown clock for this latest "might"/maybe to actually take place?  It's become sadly apparent that all "you'se" really have to offer these days is the pathetic likes of "might want"/"may"/"if"/etc.  Feel far more than perfectly free to dare going out on another limb and forecasting yet more dire ("wolf") distress for the obviously doomed east.  I doubt I'm alone in noting that we could all use the attending chuckles.
 
I'll admit to being a bit petty at times, but the whole journey from 2007 ("You won't even get 200 cards! Send the cards, I DARE you!"/"Ho ho ho! St nic is coming to town!".."The nic will be crammed down your throats!"..."This is Sparta!") to the present's proved most amusing...Not to mention serving as a fascinating study of Arrested Development as well. Keep up all that astounding amount of infantile self "righteousness" and see just where that EVER gets anyone in life. Do let us all know how well any of that insane nonsense ever actually works out for "you'se".
 
Have fun in PHX for a good while to come kids...Pray for mercy from the APA in the meanwhile...and good luck with all that.

 

[EastUS1]

Wow, we are going to all get some serious profit sharing checks!

 
No doubt. "The check's in the mail!" 😉

 

[EastUS1]

Have fun in PHX for a good while to come kids...Pray for mercy from the APA in the meanwhile...and good luck with all that.

 
P.S. Despite even your most delusionally childish fantasies: The APA positioned themselves to be essentially immune to your idiotic passions for perpetually funding inept lawyers by having made a "seat" for your group. Only the most insipidly stupid among "you'se" can even imagine that they'll not now do their very best to squash PHX like bugs in forthcoming seniority "integration", in case that's somehow, as if by "Larry Potta" magic entirely escaped your notice. With that goes the east's greater numbers and network/aircraft actually existent and in place. Against all that you've only got the "But, But!...The Nic is IT!....Right?" Fantasyland BS to even hope for. Rotsa' Ruck, mighty "spartans"....Have fun waving your "wands" around kids.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lgU3J5seA

 

[EastUS1]

 
USAPA would be the pond scum.
 

 
 
I pretty much gave up on ever expecting any kindly suggestions to actually grow up to take effect, so I'll just go with grand kudos for "you'se" and all your "Integrity Matters"/"Dire wWolf"/etc T-shirts, your "liberty" ties, your supposed "army" of cutsie little "spartans", your "heroic cactus18 bling"/et al. As always; good luck with your fantasies kids.

 

[EastUS1]

 
No doubt you can at least post yet another "T-minus" countdown clock for this latest "might"/maybe to actually take place?  It's become sadly apparent that all "you'se" really have to offer these days is the pathetic likes of "might want"/"may"/"if"/etc.  Feel far more than perfectly free to dare going out on another limb and forecasting yet more dire ("wolf") distress for the obviously doomed east.  I doubt I'm alone in noting that we could all use the attending chuckles.
 
I'll admit to being a bit petty at times, but the whole journey from 2007 ("You won't even get 200 cards! Send the cards, I DARE you!"/"Ho ho ho! St nic is coming to town!".."The nic will be crammed down your throats!"..."This is Sparta!") to the present's proved most amusing...Not to mention serving as a fascinating study of Arrested Development as well. Keep up all that astounding amount of infantile self "righteousness" and see just where that EVER gets anyone in life. Do let us all know how well any of that insane nonsense ever actually works out for "you'se".
 
Have fun in PHX for a good while to come kids...Pray for mercy from the APA in the meanwhile...and good luck with all that.

 
P.S. Noting the typically "heroic" west response to the above: Strike me not so deeply in the heart with eternally wounding minus votes on the internet children....My wager's always open, mighty "spartans"...umm...supposed "pilots". I'm happy to offer a discounted/odds favorable wager to any willing to sport "Integrity Matters" T-shirts in action on world-wide video, if that'd at all help. What puzzles me is only that the likes of "you'se" umm..."capn' aux" types have not snapped this chance up far earlier....?  I'd think it axiomatic that "you'se" would love nothing more than to utterly humilate an evil, big-mouthed eastie aloft for all the world to see, and Lord Knows that the sorry likes of myself have never faced any actual "Knights" in "battle"....Oh ye "Lords and Ladies"  😉
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U
 
Sorry "spartans", but "you'se" really are, when not otherwise being completely pathetic,  just plain boring.