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What the west pilots do not want you to know about.  (More appropriately,  what the west pilots do not want to be reminded of.)
 
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Company Declaratory Judgment. 
No nic until a combined contract agreed upon exclusively by west and East.
 
 
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luvthe9 said:
When is pappys little boy going to get over his fear of upgrading.
Such BS.

According to Bid 15-02 Dan has 139 First Officers senior to him. Tell me they are all afraid to upgrade......

Plenty of nepotism to go around. Dan wasn't the only pilot hired that had a Pappy that preceded him at Piedmont or USAir (Allegheny). Many are very senior now. Are you one of them Luv?
 
luvthe9 said:
When is pappys little boy going to get over his fear of upgrading. I will even buy a bucket of chicken for your cherry flight.





"According to our reports, on Day One of Wye River, Jeff Freund warned the West MEC that if USAPA won, the West risked losing everything. He urged reaching an agreement. He was gone on Day Two"




"Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not dealing at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything..and right now, it looks like we lost. They need to take responsibility for that."



Poor, poor Danny boy!
 
I think Traitor has already been a captain at the airline.  If so, doesn't that just take the bite out of that argument about fear of upgrade?  There are a lot of pilots that I fly with that have spent years as captains but opt for the widebody flying (because it really is better, for the most part.)  Many of them could be captains again, but decided to retire from the right seat of the 330 just because of QOL issues.  It's a valid reason, IMHO, to stay where life is good.
 
nycbusdriver said:
 
I think Traitor has already been a captain at the airline.  If so, doesn't that just take the bite out of that argument about fear of upgrade?  There are a lot of pilots that I fly with that have spent years as captains but opt for the widebody flying (because it really is better, for the most part.)  Many of them could be captains again, but decided to retire from the right seat of the 330 just because of QOL issues.  It's a valid reason, IMHO, to stay where life is good.
 
Not that I am in the habit of quoting myself, this time it matters.  I actually wrote that before I saw TB's post on the same issue.  Odd that I agree with him, and would defend Traitor, but the times they are a changin'.
 
Anybody that watches Alex Jones you have to wonder about. And conspiracy theorist even more, they tend to be the most paranoid of our society. I wonder how the right seat is going now that the island one days are mostly gone.?

I Also disagree with Dan because he so gleefully is on board with screwing his own coworkers.
 
crazystnic said:
Anybody that watches Alex Jones you have to wonder about. And conspiracy theorist even more, they tend to be the most paranoid of our society. I wonder how the right seat is going now that the island one days are mostly gone.?
I Also disagree with Dan because he so gleefully is on board with screwing his own coworkers.
Traitor urged the PHX Islanders on, with unsubstantiated truths. Now they are stranded without any legal standing. The fourth tier law school grads hitched their wagons to a shyster lawyer named Harper. Even Polsinelli Shugart gave up the ghost.
Now the stark legal reality laid down at Wye River by ALPA itself has come true.



Last February at Wye River, Rice and Prater told both MECs that the NIC would never be implemented. The East pilots had the votes to stop it. Thats why ALPA spent so much time and money trying to get us to compromise. The failure of Wye River pretty much ended ALPA on the property and ALPA knew it.

The real victims of Wye River are the 175 West pilots getting furloughed. We can thank our MEC for that. The Pro-ALPA East MEC offered a compromise they thought would save ALPA and get a cram-down contract vote out before the final USAPA election. According to our sources who were there, the East offer had fences that protected their retirement attrition and prevented East pilots from bidding into PHX/LAS and pushing down West pilots down. Furloughs would be based on length of service. We hear that came out of an old Empire Airlines furlough model.
 
cactusboy53 said:
You know.....I thought I would never post here again because arguing with folks like Luv'r just can't be done.  Logic & reason can not argue with the unrestrained GRIEF & repeatative regurgitation of the same old posts (& videos). 
 
It's like St. STEVEN always admonished:  "The Merger Policy provides, TheAward of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA. No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts."  Oh wait, my mistake.  That was US Air pilot Mike Cleary writing in US Airwaves in June/July 2000 in an article regarding airline mergers.
 
We now return you to the regularly scheduled rantings of Claxon, Mutatis, Luvthe9, et al.
Another cheerleader whose podium was anchored firmly in legal quick stand.
David is a firm believer in Mitchell Vasin, graduate of Arizona Summit.....



Spare me your platitudes about student success and commute advocates. Arizona Summit (née Phoenix School of Law) is still charging people $41,114 in tuition and fees for an unranked law school. That is why nobody intelligent wants to go there. You can change your name and your logo and your website, but until you change your unreasonable tuition, youre still a bad deal.

Changing their name to escape their Google footprint is really Arizona Summits way of saying that it hopes their applicants are too stupid to effectively research on the internet. If you Google Arizona Summit and somehow miss that this is an Infilaw holding that used to be called Phoenix School of Law (and all that that entails), then you are a dumbass, plain and simple. If you apply to Arizona Summit because you think its different than Phoenix Law, I dont even have a word for you.

Individual applicants might be dumb, but Google is not. Like so many things that happen in Mad Men, things that worked in the sixties arent going to fly in 2013.
 
Army of Leonidas, Eric Ferguson et al disregarded their own ALPA leadership. Soon, the Army embarked on a "new" and formidable course espoused by Brice Le Carre. Cat3 Productions, Eric Auxier, Tony Anger, Mark Peeper would soon star in brilliant short films........
 
nycbusdriver said:
I think Traitor has already been a captain at the airline.  If so, doesn't that just take the bite out of that argument about fear of upgrade?  There are a lot of pilots that I fly with that have spent years as captains but opt for the widebody flying (because it really is better, for the most part.)  Many of them could be captains again, but decided to retire from the right seat of the 330 just because of QOL issues.  It's a valid reason, IMHO, to stay where life is good.
He down bid to FO after being terrified as a capt after a couple bad weather days and a couple of needy, insubordinate FAs? 😀 (I tease. I tease. Seniority is like money. It's none of my business how others spend their own... But if they are wearing a stupid $675 tie they are fair game for what they deserve. 😀)
 
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