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snapthis said:
USAPA and the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.
 
FREUND: Thank you, Mr. Eischen and
Panel.
I could almost say I join in virtually
every word that my colleague across the aisle said
in his oral argument and then spare you the need to
hear it again from me, but I'm not going to spare
you.
 
 
Bob described quite properly and in great
detail the way in which the Protocol Agreement was
established, the circumstances that led to its
establishment, the litigation underlying it, the
hard bargaining.
 
 
First of all, it's entirely unclear as we
sit here today whether the USAPA Merger Committee is
or is not participating in this proceeding.
I say that for the following reason.
The letters that you received yesterday
are in the record, and they are in conflict.
There's a letter from Bill Wilder saying that the
USAPA Merger Committee is not going to participate
any further in this proceeding.
MR. FREUND: There's also a letter from
Steven Bradford saying that they didn't have
authority to do that.
 
 
 
My point is that, in the context of these
various documents, and the incredibly unclear
circumstances that -- with respect to the USAPA
Merger Committee's status in this proceeding, or its
decisions with regard to its status in this
proceeding, the notion that APA should be going out
and soliciting, yet again, another group of pilots
to represent the East pilots seems to me to be
fraught with incredible mischief
 
 
 
Now, here is the key sentence.
 
"Nothing in this Protocol Agreement shall
be deemed to modify or supersede any provision of
the governing documents of any party existing as of
the effective date of this Seniority Integration
Protocol Agreement that governs the relationship
between the party and a Merger Committee which it
has established."
 
ARBITRATOR EISCHEN: Record reference 8.a
 
of the Protocol Agreement.
 
 
 
The APA should stay clear of Usapian mischief to avoid potential conflict of interest problems.
 
 
A320 Driver said:
Guys, I don't know why you let 700 lure you into a sparring match. He is just another turd in the punchbowl.

Strictly boredom and entertainment.
 
cactusboy53 said:
Well, there's a leak in your head (clearly). Ever hear of Pacer? That's where you get immediate court documents when they are published. Of course you must have the desire to become INFORMED and READ all documents.
Or maybe Bobby sneaked a peak & shared. Big party in the desert soon! Come on out. We're serving a chilled Cactus Juice.
Big smiles, boys. Big smiles!


As long as your happy being stuck in PHX, you keep on smiling that's a good attitude.
 
AA attorney Siegal gets it. They are dealing with scumbags that will try anything possible to avoid their obligations. It's not USAPA, it's the people who created and voted in that POS. Notice how they scatter like roaches and try to find another rock to scurry under.


"Our view is that this Panel should not require APA to establish a new committee or to make best efforts to establish a new committee.
And I'll explain why.

Now, from the Company's perspective, we were entirely neutral in the course of that DFR litigation. We took no sides.
But having taken no sides, once we read the injunction, and we have a -- or not the injunction, but the Ninth Circuit ruling, we do not favor attempting to maneuver or to create workarounds on federal court decisions.
And if the purpose of suggesting a new committee be formed is to then be able to assert that the new East committee is not bound like the prior East committee under the USAPA name, by the Court decision, would be to ignore what the Ninth Circuit has said.
And we don't favor that."
 
Pardon me, but I am an East pilot and I require representation. If it can't be USAPA, then the APA needs to appoint one to avoid a DFR. If I have to eat the NIC, then so be it, but there are C&Rs that the West will favor that I am opposed to.
 
A320 Driver said:
Pardon me, but I am an East pilot and I require representation. If it can't be USAPA, then the APA needs to appoint one to avoid a DFR. If I have to eat the NIC, then so be it, but there are C&Rs that the West will favor that I am opposed to.
Pardon me.
 
 
Who grabbed their ball and went home?
 
 
luvthe9 said:
As long as your happy being stuck in PHX, you keep on smiling that's a good attitude.
Psst! There's a train rapidly approaching, and you're STILL standing on the tracks! What a maroon!
 
A320 Driver said:
Pardon me, but I am an East pilot and I require representation. If it can't be USAPA, then the APA needs to appoint one to avoid a DFR. If I have to eat the NIC, then so be it, but there are C&Rs that the West will favor that I am opposed to.
 
Chutzpah:
 
Perhaps the classic "legal" definition of chutzpah is the closest; a person who kills his parents and pleads for the court's mercy on the ground of being an orphan.
 
cactusboy53 said:
Big party in the desert soon! Come on out. We're serving a chilled Cactus Juice.
 
Nothing much new to see there, but a gentle suggestion would be to cut back on the peyote/"Cactus Juice" a bit. It's already been long-seen that the desert heat alone clearly produces some rather extreme hallucinations among your tribe.
 
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