2015 Pilot Discussion.

[Claxon]

Relax
Luv
Claxon
The Nicolau arbitration said those who were actively flying at the time of the acquisition in 2005, that pilots who were actively flying at the time of the merger should not be replaced with furloughed pilots. You installed an East Union and management, it is no suprise who got recalled and who was furloughed. The arbitration called for no windfalls, guess what you got your winfall already so don't expect and windfall with AA. History will show the airline which was hiring at the time of the acquisition (America West) stopped until the East pilots were recalled. West pilots got furloughed by their new East bosses. Parker was more than willing to use the services of pilots who decided to remain under bankruptcy wages so it is no surprise the East grew and the West shrunk. I did not see much help from USAPA other than helping themselves to all the benefits.
I guarantee you one thing, we'll be at the table, show the history and the impact on West pilots as a result of arbitration evasion. We've had a legal team in place for years, they know the opponent well. They are committed to seeing this process through to the end and will counter any attempts otherwise.
One other thing, you play like this is AA vs the former America West. Don't you have your own case to present? You need not concern yourself with our merger committee. Worry about your own merger committee.
The AA pilots need to watch you guys like an Eagle. Plug any escape routes in agreements made considering your history of evasion.
There's my answer.

Answer the question windbag. Forget Nicolau and east.
Legacy AA is the subject.

 

[luvthe9]

I think I would be in a position to know otherwise.
You're a dumba$$.

Sure you are, you've done so well in the past "dumba$$".

 

[luvthe9]

Eastcheats
Cactuspilot1
SNAPTHIS
Answer this: should Legacy American Airlines Pilots furloughed at the time of merger announcement be placed below all working former america west pilots with no credit for LOS?

Let's go big mouth, answer this question now, have some AA buddies that are curious.


Your evading the question you little worm.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Your toast. Your own legal team told you it's over.
This is going to be fun to watch. Gotta couple of PM's from AA guys waiting for your answer from Clax.

Sure you did. Why would they PM you? You and your butt buddy are too much. Go sniff his seat.

 

[luvthe9]

Inquiring AA minds want to know, your up Davey boy.


Believe it or not they keep tabs on this board.



ANSWER PLEASE.

 

[luvthe9]

Sure you did. Why would they PM you? You and your butt buddy are too much. Go sniff his seat.

Weak response!!!!

 

[luvthe9]

Do you have to call a friend? Lifeline maybe?

 

[luvthe9]

I think Davey ran up to his room locked the door and is under his bed right now.

 

[FL430]

Relax
Luv
Claxon
The Nicolau arbitration said those who were actively flying at the time of the acquisition in 2005, that pilots who were actively flying at the time of the merger should not be replaced with furloughed pilots. You installed an East Union and management, it is no suprise who got recalled and who was furloughed. The arbitration called for no windfalls, guess what you got your winfall already so don't expect and windfall with AA. History will show the airline which was hiring at the time of the acquisition (America West) stopped until the East pilots were recalled. West pilots got furloughed by their new East bosses. Parker was more than willing to use the services of pilots who decided to remain under bankruptcy wages so it is no surprise the East grew and the West shrunk. I did not see much help from USAPA other than helping themselves to all the benefits.
I guarantee you one thing, we'll be at the table, show the history and the impact on West pilots as a result of arbitration evasion. We've had a legal team in place for years, they know the opponent well. They are committed to seeing this process through to the end and will counter any attempts otherwise.
One other thing, you play like this is AA vs the former America West. Don't you have your own case to present? You need not concern yourself with our merger committee. Worry about your own merger committee.
The AA pilots need to watch you guys like an Eagle. Plug any escape routes in agreements made considering your history of evasion.
There's my answer.

He doesn't like the question, that's why he won't answer. And the three arbs at the new SLI panel know exactly why there are three of them there now, because old st Nic fked up.
The west stagnated because there were no revenue opportunities there, the east was the profitable side of the airline. He thinks because of Bular the east grew and the west stagnated. Bullshit! This management team makes decisions on one thing only - revenue. The east brings the revenue, not the west. This is also something old NIC didn't consider either, that's why he has a hard time finding work these days. Can anyone find a quote where ANY other arbitrator has spoke up for old Nic in his defense? ANYONE?

 

[nycbusdriver]

"I'm glad to be in another meger with USAPA"

Yep, that's pretty clear. Tell me, when was the last time you merged? I have to tell you, it looks like you have run out of choices. I guess it sucks getting old and bitter. Your merging choices dwindle when you are that retired guy wearing black socks and sandles on the beach.

Hey, look on the bright side. You can brag about the fact you worked for a legacy airline the last year or two if your career.

 
You are such an effing idiot.  You take only part of the sentence and leave out the context.  Did you even get past second grade?  

 

[nycbusdriver]

If it didn't work out as planned, then explain why I'm still getting awarded equipment and base bids with my original DOH?

 
They can't.  They just make stuff up and shout it over and over somehow thinking it will make it real.
 
Pathetic is the kindest word I can apply to these whackos.

 

[EastUS1]

I guarantee you one thing, we'll be at the table, show the history and the impact on West pilots as a result of arbitration evasion.

 
Sigh....I'm sure there won't be a dry eye left anywhere in the house afterwards. Let's face it: This whole thing's not at ALL about over 10,000-12,000+ others as well.  It's all about "you'se"...Right?

 

[nycbusdriver]

Sorry dude he is right on, you lose.

 
Surprised?  That's what losers do.

 

[EastUS1]

 
They can't.  They just make stuff up and shout it over and over somehow thinking it will make it real.
 
Pathetic is the kindest word I can apply to these whackos.

 
Pretty much. The mental behavior you note's not unlike that of cult members anywhere. As cults go though; my all time favorite is the Hare Krishnas. Non-violent, not hateful, and harming none but themselves through an essentially deficient diet; they offered up pleasant wishes, dancing, colorful costumes, sometimes flowers, and very inexpensive copies of the Bhagavad Gita. All that's ever been had from these PHX fools is "This is Sparta!", loudly shouted, smarmy notions of how they'd so like to harm their more experienced "fellow pilots" anyway they can, some self-awarded "bling" and "heroic" fantasies of being "knights/dire wolves"..even "wizards" with "a lot of courage", childish T-shirts and of course $675 "liberty" ties. Sigh, by any sort of fair comparison; I kinda' miss the once-plentiful Hare Krishnas, truth be told.

 

[nycbusdriver]

It's been 10 years and USAPA never achieved DOH before being decertified and if it were not for Leonidas standing in the way with their arms folded you might have accomplished your DOH scheme.

Look who still standing after all these years, look who got decertified. 😉

 
Look who's getting all the upgrades.
 
Look who's getting almost all the new hires.