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CactusPilot1 said:
I think I would be in a position to know otherwise.
You're a dumba$$.
So your evasiveness pretty much proves your position is to put all APA's furloughed below all west ( or even one month new hires east and west - proven in your stance and support of Nic ) , regardless of said furloughees length of service.

I can promise you presenting the Nic will be a waste of time, that is patently unfair to the 10000 legacy AA pilots when that snapshot and constructive notice date is December 2013.

Remember they and (we) signed a document that said ........." Lists currently in effect"
 
nycbusdriver said:
You are such an effing idiot.  You take only part of the sentence and leave out the context.  Did you even get past second grade?

They scatter like cockroaches when the questions get hard. And you are right, they are complete idiots. They think the planet revolves around their own "special" universe. I want my Nic.....WAAAA!
But ....but......but you promised! I want my mommy!
Crybabies.

Their armies only weapon is the minus vote....watch out people, Spartans are ready to ambush you with a minus vote, lol!
 
FL430 said:
They scatter like cockroaches when the questions get hard. ....
 
Oh hardly, in that they don't have to be hard questions at all for them to scurry under the nearest rock. Any direct challenge to their personal fantasies will suffice. If you want one that none of them will ever answer;  just ask when they were personally hired on at even AWA? One might imagine they'd be able to proudly and immediately respond, while providing clear proof of why they're personally "worthy" of advancement over their supposed "fellows" with far more years worked, but such (amazingly) never happens...
 
Watch this: So, Cactuspilot and EastCheats?...Just when were you hired at AWA? Without hopefully coating "you'se" keyboards with yet another quart of spittle and drool; why are either/both of you "worthy" of artificially advanced "seniority" over ANY others with at least a decade (or even nearly two) more worked service than yourselves?  Nothing? Nothing at all? I rest my case.
 
FL430 said:
Their armies only weapon is the minus vote....watch out people, Spartans are ready to ambush you with a minus vote, lol!
 
In fairness brother; one's hardly dealing with the aviation community's intellectual elite here. I again reference Mr. "I hate every single wun of you"..."I hate all of you'se"...."I wuz gonna' be a kaptun!" at 1:30 into this proudly produced masterpiece from "sparta" by way of supporting example. I can't speak for others, but I found just the double-fisted-simian gesturing alone to be most impressive indeed:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66EvBBj5tQ
 
 
 
Should any further speculation on the "spartan" cult's collective IQ seem needed; simply observe that the above video is (and I'm not making this up people) an apparently proud production of their very own, presumably made to advance the "righteousness" of their position.
 
P.S. There are actually educated, intelligent and decent pilots based in PHX. I've had the pleasure of talking with some of them, so I know this to be true. The true pity here's that none of them ever held sway during any part of this fiasco. Instead?...Some greasy-haired, infantile narcissist/2004 new hire was somehow allowed to exhalt himself to become the self-proclaimed "supreme commander" (not kidding there folks) of a Fantasyland "army" of pathetically self-styled, supposed "spartans"...and the rest, as it's said, is sad history....replete with "Integrity Matters" T-shirts, "liberty" ties, "battle" tested "knights"/"dire wolves"/"Larry Potta"/et al, delusional nonsense....Oh!...And not to forget heroic Cactus18  "bling" clearly demonstrating "a lot of courage" of course. As a study of Arrested Development among even supposed "professionals" it's proved most interesting.
 
FL430 said:
They scatter like cockroaches when the questions get hard. And you are right, they are complete idiots. They think the planet revolves around their own "special" universe. I want my Nic.....WAAAA!
But ....but......but you promised! I want my mommy!
Crybabies.
Their armies only weapon is the minus vote....watch out people, Spartans are ready to ambush you with a minus vote, lol!
I was thinking the same thing. I leave the room, lights go out and the rats come out. I see why Claxon wants to talk his nonsense. He likes distracting people like you and the rest of the dolts and claim victory. You have a lot more problems up ahead than a minus vote.

While you talk your nonsense the West is discussing the problems and enjoying the moment. I'm happy to share those comments with you (Claxon hates it) because he hates the truth. The truth of the matter is.....you've got big problems thanks to people like me who fund Leonidas to protect our careers against people like you. People with zero integrity. Money well spent.

Enjoy the read, losers:
There has been a civil lawsuit filed by 3 pilots against the USAPA principals, and that lawsuit will continue until there is a settlement or final judgment. What this means is that it is really up to the plaintiffs (Bollemeier, Parrot, and Tracey) to decide what terms they are willing to agree to in order to stop the lawsuit, and how much towel the defendants will have to throw in before we make the lawsuit stop

Nonetheless it places individuals in a position to have to defend THEMSELVES! They cannot not use Union dues.
Count 1 in our prayer for relief asks for a full accounting (which is our right), and a subsequent forensic examination of their books will certainly uncover this sort of illegal "reallocation" if it actually occurred. In that case, we would submit the evidence to the DOL and/or other enforcement agency for them to file criminal charges.

How about send them all to jail and enjoy some Bubba time.

So the financial threat to their personal assets is HUGE!

Correct. Remember that the LMRDA was a pretty staunch legislative measure designed to thwart union corruption, and it does to by placing alot of power in the hands of union members. You will never see more hand-wringing by union attorneys than when facing an LMRDA issue.

This lawsuit is brought under the LMRDA for violating that statute. Far more serious, and it has been approved by a judge to proceed

Rest assured those named defendants aren't sleeping well. There personal wealths are at stake for every penny they have spent in violation of the act. And, using Usapa treasury funds to defend themselves is prime fascia proof they are violating the act.

The consequence here is financial liability and legal defense costs to the individuals named.

That is correct, it is against all current and former officers and board members who voted in favor of not refunding dues money as per the constitution. They will not be able to use union money to pay for their defense, if that happens they will be liable for that much more
It warms my heart to see those yahoo's FINALLY being the ones running around with a target painted on their a**es

If these morons are convicted of criminal activity, can't they be terminated by the company? Hope they pay a hefty price for their behavior...all of them!

This is so worth my $200 a month...

That is great news about the case being reassigned to Judge Conrad!
And loved the part of the Judge's bio that he has experience in looking into both campaign financing and terrorism financing.
The Usapa officers ought to be worried!

No rubbernecking. I am stopping, getting a chair and a cooler. I want to watch the entire pending disaster without missing a second.
Let the show begin

Agreed. No way I'm just driving by this car wreck. I want to gawk
 
CactusPilot1 said:
I was thinking.....
 
Thanks for the laughs. 
 
"Oh hardly, in that they don't have to be hard questions at all for them to scurry under the nearest rock. Any direct challenge to their personal fantasies will suffice. If you want one that none of them will ever answer;  just ask when they were personally hired on at even AWA? One might imagine they'd be able to proudly and immediately respond, while providing clear proof of why they're personally "worthy" of advancement over their supposed "fellows" with far more years worked, but such (amazingly) never happens...
 
Watch this: So, Cactuspilot and EastCheats?...Just when were you hired at AWA? Without hopefully coating "you'se" keyboards with yet another quart of spittle and drool; why are either/both of you "worthy" of artificially advanced "seniority" over ANY others with at least a decade (or even nearly two) more worked service than yourselves?  Nothing? Nothing at all? I rest my case."...Well? Certainly such a truly "courage" filled soul as "you'se", that so loves to "heroically" attempt infantilely fantasized "personal" association with even the likes of Battle Flags from the Army of the Republic of Texas (had San Jacinto not gone so favorably; I'd never have even been born, but I sure as Hell wasn't there myself, nor, apparently unlike "you'se" can claim/fantasize/imagine ANY personal glory) should have NO trouble addressing my simple and direct questions? ...No?  What a "surprise", yet again.
 
"So, Cactuspilot and EastCheats?...Just when were you hired at AWA?" Try to at least find sufficient spine to answer a very reasonable and direct question that's entirely germane to the discussion here for once?...? Or should we all just forever expect pathetic variations on how your lawyer/some outside agencywhatever will stand up in "you'se" stead?
 
No matter. Given years now of "spartan" insects always scuttling under the nearest "flag"stones whenever in ANY way at all challenged: Let me guess: "This is Sparta!"..."I'll call my lawyer/mommy/somebody on you!"...? From family heritage notions of the Army of the Republic of Texas...well, I'm thinking those less fortunate Texicans that fell at the Alamo, and were otherwise murdered at Goliad, etc "might", just possibly, not have been much impresessed with the sorry likes of "you'se"....but go ahead and post another heroically "spartan" idiocy/Flag again.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
IThis is so worth my $200 a month...
 
I'd suggest checking with your cable/satellite provider then.  Most of us get to watch the comedy special series "This is Sparta!" for free.
 
No worries though. I'm sure "you'se" have the APA and all arbitrators in your pockets. All will of course see your "Holy Crusade" to place yourselves decades above your betters as fully "righteous", and that all will be well in "sparta"...That you'll doubtless receive, as long-ago, literally imagined/posted/fantasized "Billions in damages"/etc...What even reasonably possible issues of doubt could there even be?
 
Grow up.
 
"Oh hardly, in that they don't have to be hard questions at all for them to scurry under the nearest rock. Any direct challenge to their personal fantasies will suffice. If you want one that none of them will ever answer;  just ask when they were personally hired on at even AWA? One might imagine they'd be able to proudly and immediately respond, while providing clear proof of why they're personally "worthy" of advancement over their supposed "fellows" with far more years worked, but such (amazingly) never happens...
 
Watch this: So, Cactuspilot and EastCheats?...Just when were you hired at AWA? Without hopefully coating "you'se" keyboards with yet another quart of spittle and drool; why are either/both of you "worthy" of artificially advanced "seniority" over ANY others with at least a decade (or even nearly two) more worked service than yourselves?  Nothing? Nothing at all? I rest my case.".
CactusPilot1 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I leave the room, lights go out and the rats come out.....
 
Indeed they do. Unfortunately for "you'se"; the "lights" are now on, and will become yet more focused during future SLI proceedings. Care to answer, or even feebly attempt any response to the above? You will have to fairly shortly, after all....?
 
No matter. "March" proudly into the "arena" kids, shouting out "This is Sparta!''...All you arbitrators secretly love Mr. Nic's nonsense...Right?...And did we mention how "abused" and "righteously entitled" we truly are?..Much less what grand gifts we "bring" to this merger? Don't you at least feel sorry for us? We just want the "justice" that'd be shown by advancing our new hires and ourselves above people with even full decades of more worked time, and the APA's people that were furloughed, of course, since we're truly "special" out in PHX!....How's that at all unreasonable?....But, but; the nic is IT, right?..Isn't it?....Waah!
 
Against that, you will only have well over 10,000-12,000  "fellow" pilots entirely opposed to your "specially" entitled, little interests. Good luck, and have fun with all your current fantasies, for so long as "you'se" can, that is. Who could even possibly doubt that the whole focus of the (for now anyway) world's largest airline won't be entirely centered around just a small handful of "spartans" in PHX?....Right?
 
I'd go with Grow Up again, but really; what's the use?
 
EastUS1 said:
I'd go with Grow Up again, but really; what's the use?
 
 
P.P.S. Just offered for educational purposes: "You'se" mighty "spartans" have a truly amazing ability to fantasize. Your posted "Come and Take it" flag came from a fairly minor skirmish in 1835. Subsequently, many, many  hundreds were murdered by the Mexican Army, inclusive of all surviving men defending the Alamo against ridiculous odds. Victory at San Jacinto was not only a tribute to determination and courage, but an incredible combination of a fine commander, strong-willed men far past sick of seemingly interminable maneuvering/apparent retreat, who were very eager to kill, luck, terrain and tactical surprise...not to mention a "Remember the Alamo!" proper battle cry of pure blood lust, and not so much as a single smarmy lawyer or arbitrator played any role in such. Good luck with "you'se"...umm.."heroic" fantasies of having smarmy lawyers/arbitrators/whatever bringing great and entirely unearned happiness in life for any concerned. Life really doesn't work that way; but you can at least admire your "heroic" Cactus 'bling" in whatever strange circle-jerk best suits "you'se" mutual needs, and fantasize yourselves having "a lot of courage" while doing so.....of course.
 
Just kindly and properly afford serious and actual Men of the past some well-earned respect, and don't even try to pretend "you'se" sorry selves their equals. I certainly don't, and "you'se won't even accept purely recreational flying wagers, after all, nor have most of "you'se" ever even been in "war" with so much as the Cub Scouts....I'm "sure" the actual King Leonidas who fought and died at Thermopylae would've been deeply "impressed" by "you'se" and your mighty lawyers...or just perhaps not.
 
Bottom line: Spare us all the "Battle Flags" and supposed "spartan"...umm..."heroics"...and just grow up. Evidence at least a little bit of decency....
 
CactusPilot1 said:
I was thinking the same thing. I leave the room, lights go out and the rats come out. I see why Claxon wants to talk his nonsense. He likes distracting people like you and the rest of the dolts and claim victory. You have a lot more problems up ahead than a minus vote.
While you talk your nonsense the West is discussing the problems and enjoying the moment. I'm happy to share those comments with you (Claxon hates it) because he hates the truth. The truth of the matter is.....you've got big problems thanks to people like me who fund Leonidas to protect our careers against people like you. People with zero integrity. Money well spent.
Enjoy the read, losers:
There has been a civil lawsuit filed by 3 pilots against the USAPA principals, and that lawsuit will continue until there is a settlement or final judgment. What this means is that it is really up to the plaintiffs (Bollemeier, Parrot, and Tracey) to decide what terms they are willing to agree to in order to stop the lawsuit, and how much towel the defendants will have to throw in before we make the lawsuit stop
Nonetheless it places individuals in a position to have to defend THEMSELVES! They cannot not use Union dues.
Count 1 in our prayer for relief asks for a full accounting (which is our right), and a subsequent forensic examination of their books will certainly uncover this sort of illegal "reallocation" if it actually occurred. In that case, we would submit the evidence to the DOL and/or other enforcement agency for them to file criminal charges.
How about send them all to jail and enjoy some Bubba time.
So the financial threat to their personal assets is HUGE!
Correct. Remember that the LMRDA was a pretty staunch legislative measure designed to thwart union corruption, and it does to by placing alot of power in the hands of union members. You will never see more hand-wringing by union attorneys than when facing an LMRDA issue.
This lawsuit is brought under the LMRDA for violating that statute. Far more serious, and it has been approved by a judge to proceed
Rest assured those named defendants aren't sleeping well. There personal wealths are at stake for every penny they have spent in violation of the act. And, using Usapa treasury funds to defend themselves is prime fascia proof they are violating the act.
The consequence here is financial liability and legal defense costs to the individuals named.
That is correct, it is against all current and former officers and board members who voted in favor of not refunding dues money as per the constitution. They will not be able to use union money to pay for their defense, if that happens they will be liable for that much more
It warms my heart to see those yahoo's FINALLY being the ones running around with a target painted on their a**es
If these morons are convicted of criminal activity, can't they be terminated by the company? Hope they pay a hefty price for their behavior...all of them!
This is so worth my $200 a month...
That is great news about the case being reassigned to Judge Conrad!
And loved the part of the Judge's bio that he has experience in looking into both campaign financing and terrorism financing.
The Usapa officers ought to be worried!
No rubbernecking. I am stopping, getting a chair and a cooler. I want to watch the entire pending disaster without missing a second.
Let the show begin
Agreed. No way I'm just driving by this car wreck. I want to gawk
It's going to be impossible to prevail with the FACT that you had over a thousand members, you got to bite, you had BPR members, etc. also ad up the FACT that you list the DFR and the pilots voted FOR THE MOU.....oh well. Just more reason why the pat raises you got are wasted. Wasted west lives and wasted west money. You can't fix stupid.

Oh, what makes you think that Marty and thise three idiots can't be sued?
 
luvthe9 said:
He still did not answer the question.
 
No surprise. One must properly wonder just how well these poor kids will adjust when their last fantasies of incredibly inflated, wholly unearned, and fully excessive delusions of self "worth" are finally taken from them....I'll go with a whole lot of "WAAH!....I hate all of you'se!" directed towards the whole world at large, and even life it's self then....Oh well, perhaps it's FAR past time for a great many of them to at least attempt some small measure of actually growing up in any case....although I've no doubt we can all still expect many more "heroic" little Wicked Witch of the West versions of how they'll yet "Get you!...And your little dog too!" 😉
 
It's been nearly a decade now, and I don't anymore, at all honestly, ever even expect the suggestions to Grow Up to now produce any tangible result. That would/will only come from further life experience for them, at least hopefully.
 
What will be most interesting is to examine any/all west postings of a year or two from now...If there are even any left to see then, which is highly unlikely. Not that there are even more than at best two west "spartan heros" yet left here, but I rather expect a major "spartan" meltdown to take place the first moment after the SLI arbitration begins and the APA offers up their position.
 
EastUS1 said:
 
 
 
What will be most interesting is to examine any/all west postings of a year or two from now...If there are even any left to see then. Not that there are even more than at best two west "spartan heros" yet left here, but I rather expect a major "spartan" meltdown to take place the first moment the SLI arbitration begins and the APA offers up their position.
 
It doesn't matter what happens.  The westholes that post here will still be around claiming victory.  If it were possible to displace every one of them to flying worn out Dash 8s in and out of the PHX oven, they would still be here beating their puny chests, claiming imminent and final victory.  Facts be damned!
 
They are totally screwed, and it seems everyone including most of the actually intelligent west pilots know it.  These whack-a-doodle westie posters are simply in permanent denial.
 
nycbusdriver said:
 
It doesn't matter what happens.  The westholes that post here will still be around claiming victory.  If it were possible to displace every one of them to flying worn out Dash 8s in and out of the PHX oven, they would still be here beating their puny chests, claiming imminent and final victory.  Facts be damned!
 
They are totally screwed, and it seems everyone including most of the actually intelligent west pilots know it.  These whack-a-doodle westie posters are simply in permanent denial.
 
 
Pretty much nyc. I mostly waste time here in the apparently vain hopes of yet enticing some idiotic "spartan" umm..."hero" to accept my purely recreational/no radar/no missles/no guns/no "I want my Mommy! actually dying/all-for-fun-and-a-few-bucks aerial wager. In admittedly unwholesome additon to studying them as a properly clinical case of Arrested Development; I've seriously worked for YEARS to try and piss these pitiful punks off every way I know, so's to accept the wager, and all they can apparently EVER do in response is cower behind keyboards and "type tough"...Which offers another study of it's self, but no matter for now. Quite honestly?...I'd never before even dreamed the existence of such only laughably supposed "Pilots" was possible, before meeting these pathetic punks anyway.
 
You've my handshake and salute for also refusing to sell out our younger brothers/sisters over the years, especially as we prepare to finish our careers, but neither of us need really worry anymore about anything beyond little umbrellas in our tropical beverages, or not, and how long our aged, sorry arses should really stay out in the sun.
 
The little "spartan" swine in PHX couldn't force the Nic on our "young", so it's all good.
 
"They are totally screwed, and it seems everyone including most of the actually intelligent west pilots know it.  These whack-a-doodle westie posters are simply in permanent denial." Indeed. See again listings under essentially  just trolling these fools for a wagered "fight". No excuses....Can't really help myself. As unfair as it might be; they seem so truly pitiful and easily intimidated, but well...Just bored here....Who knows?...Clearly, the sorry likes of Cactus"pilot" and "EastCheats" are complete jokes, but just maybe they've got a real "spartan ringer" saved up somewhere....? 😉
 
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