2015 Pilot Discussion.

[nevergiveup]

West-"I want the Nic"
 
Arb-"You're not gett....
 
West-"I want the Nic!!!....Now!!!!"
 
Arb-"Alright. Nic in PHX. Permanent fence."
 
Christmas day-Trader gets a football and a baseball mitt. 

 

[FL430]

I am aware of the pharmaceutical cargo, but a spare in PHL, or another -200 scheduled for a different city is fairly useless if the airplane breaks in TLV, is it not?  
 
Your argument is total nonsense.  The company indeed may keep A spare A330 in PHL, or CLT, but that spare will head out to whatever city needs it, and not just TLV.
 
TLV is serviced by TWO aircraft, not three.  Spares do not come into the picture.
 
If the cargo was that important, then passengers would be denied boarding in favor of the cargo, but that is not the case.  Having flown TLV-PHL iwthin the past week, and having the dispatcher mention that he left 9,000 pounds of cargo on the ramp (with a full load of pax) would lead me to believe that the cargo contract is not as precious as you say.  And it certainly is not lucrative enough to have an extra $100 million dollar airplane hanging around to protect it.

Typical pilot, only sees what's directly in front of him. That's why you will never attain the position any higher than you are. You will never attain the ranks of manager say like isom because you would operate a route like this with two aircraft instead of three. Your completion factor would be in the 80% range and you would loose business and be unprofitable. You would be unable to garner contracts that would make the operation profitable.
I told you that mechanicals and some delays had already been calculated into the business model and that went straight over that thick skull of yours. Mathematically you cannot guarantee a completion factor In The 90% range with only two aircraft operating this route - but you don't have access to the operating statistics now do you? So sometimes they do leave the cargo behind, it's all built into the business model.
The company does keep a spare in PHL and CLT and it will go to TLV as the priority, especially if there have already been delays or cancellations there for the month to maintain the completion factor statistic.

You never answered me; What would you do if you as an airline planned this route and you only owned two 330-200's only to have one go down for maintenance like the 330 in CLT for the last couple of months?

 

[FL430]

Never, but you are the one who brought it up, not me.

I just wanted to see and verify that you do not know the 330-300 cannot go to TLV even with a fuel stop. Only 330-200's are listed on the operating permit there. That is not a FAA permit, it is the permit with the IRATD, again something you know nothing about.

 

[nevergiveup]

I just wanted to see and verify that you do not know the 330-300 cannot go to TLV even with a fuel stop. Only 330-200's are listed on the operating permit there. That is not a FAA permit, it is the permit with the IRATD, again something you know nothing about.

I'm so impressed! 

 

[end_of_alpa]

Ok here's what you are not getting. This was a new aircraft type in early 2009. They (A330-200) mostly did CDG prior to July 2009 when PHL - TLV started. So the A330-300 could not do TLV without a fuel stop, with me so far? Reliability testing was done during this time and proving flights ( as well as reliability data supplied by Airbus). You don't start a long range flight for which you don't have a substitute aircraft for because you have taken a lot of money from folks purchasing tickets on the TLV route. If you have an aircraft hiccup, maintenance, aircraft damage, or whatever, you have no way to accommodate the passengers. Your reputation is then ruined and people will not book your flights after poor or nonexistent performance. Consider if the A330-200 damaged aircraft in CLT had happened on July 2 2009? What would you do then? The flights are too long with too much ground sit time to run a reliable operation with just two aircraft. Operational reliability studies were done and the decision of starting service to TLV in July 2009 were based on studies that indicated more than two aircraft would be required to maintain acceptable reliability of operations. The third aircraft was often flown PHL - SJU or to PHL -CDG ( somewhere that it could be pulled from in case of maintenance required ) and then an 330-300 substituted for those flights. You don't start a new ultra long range operation without some type of reliability program as plan B. Unless of course you don't care about reliability concerns. Now we have many 330-200s that can easily be swapped around in case of maintenance outages, but you still need 3 airframes to run a reliable operation.

An aircraft on the ground is an aircraft NOT producing revenue.  The reliability rate of the 330 is high so I would say you can talk to Isom and see what HE does!!

 

[end_of_alpa]

Typical pilot, only sees what's directly in front of him. That's why you will never attain the position any higher than you are. You will never attain the ranks of manager say like isom because you would operate a route like this with two aircraft instead of three. Your completion factor would be in the 80% range and you would loose business and be unprofitable. You would be unable to garner contracts that would make the operation profitable.
I told you that mechanicals and some delays had already been calculated into the business model and that went straight over that thick skull of yours. Mathematically you cannot guarantee a completion factor In The 90% range with only two aircraft operating this route - but you don't have access to the operating statistics now do you? So sometimes they do leave the cargo behind, it's all built into the business model.
The company does keep a spare in PHL and CLT and it will go to TLV as the priority, especially if there have already been delays or cancellations there for the month to maintain the completion factor statistic.

You never answered me; What would you do if you as an airline planned this route and you only owned two 330-200's only to have one go down for maintenance like the 330 in CLT for the last couple of months?

Oh, you mean like YOU have the corner office with the window view?  I'll accept NYC view over yours.  I mean, he's been doing it a little while.
 
What do YOU do??

 

[Freighterguynow]

And it certainly is not lucrative enough to have an extra $100 million dollar airplane hanging around to protect it.

$ 229 million.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/new-airbus-aircraft-list-prices-for-2015/

 

[nycbusdriver]

$ 229 million.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pressreleases/press-release-detail/detail/new-airbus-aircraft-list-prices-for-2015/

 I stand corrected.  Where is that $229 billion asset parked right now waiting to go to TLV to rescue the broken airplane there?
 
I guess you can't fix stupid, as FL430 so vividly displays.  
 
That's it!  There's a huge lack of oxygen at FL430.  That would explain a lot.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Typical pilot, only sees what's directly in front of him. 

 
You mean like the actual command of the aircraft you are talking about?  How long have you had your Airline Transport Pilot type rating in the A330?  How many times have you piloted one across the Atlantic....to TLV even?  
 
You're just pissed off because your idiotic theory doesn't hold water, and any 2nd grader with a C in arithmetic ould figure out why.
 
Ever?
 
I thought so.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Your completion factor would be in the 80% range and you would loose business and be unprofitable. 

 
Where did you pull that statistic?   Out of the 1950s and DC-6s?
 
If a modern jet fleet could only boast 80% completion factor, no would would ever fly on the airlines.  
 
Come on....make up some more stories for us.  

 

[Claxon]

East ALPA  - "I want a pony for Christmas"
 
Nic - "You're not getting a pony, tell me what else you want"
 
East ALPA  - "I want a pony"
 
Christmas Day:
 
East ALPA - "Why did I get this stupid baseball mitt?, I wanted a football............NIC must hate East pilots"

Jeffrey Freund" damn, you know you got that Christmas gift that we cannot pay for..."
west " But Jeff, we know we got a windfall, and want it all...."
John Prater. " you west 2004 hires better figure out this is like most extravagent gifts. You better learn to share, or you will lose it all...
Jeff Freund. " have you ever heard of risk Johnny Mac? You are about to...."
Scott Kirby: " kind of like the lottery ticket you can't cash"
west: " Nic or nothing..."
east: " nothing it shall be......"

 

[luvthe9]

Jeffrey Freund" damn, you know you got that Christmas gift that we cannot pay for..."
west " But Jeff, we know we got a windfall, and want it all...."
John Prater. " you west 2004 hires better figure out this is like most extravagent gifts. You better learn to share, or you will lose it all...
Jeff Freund. " have you ever heard of risk Johnny Mac? You are about to...."
Scott Kirby: " kind of like the lottery ticket you can't cash"
west: " Nic or nothing..."
east: " nothing it shall be......"

"According to our reports, on Day One of Wye River, Jeff Freund warned the West MEC that if USAPA won, the West risked losing everything. He urged reaching an agreement. He was gone on Day Two."



"Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not dealing at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything…..and right now, it looks like we lost. "



"We did it to ourselves, guys."

 

[luvthe9]

Well the good news is we get rid of the craptus call sign in about two weeks.

 

[700UW]

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/seniority-hearings-for-american-airlines-pilots-to-begin-june-29.html/

 

[nycbusdriver]

Well the good news is we get rid of the craptus call sign in about two weeks.

 
We should get Prechili back on here to start a countdown clock that actually will work!