2015 Pilot Discussion.

[EastUS1]

 
If they don't yet; this should serve to further educate them on management's little lap dogs/love puppies in PHX/"sparta". It's a pity the video showing their then "leadership" directly asking the CEO if they "should turn in" east pilots for actually having both engines running while taxiing is company property, and thus not suitable for public posting.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlzpMjT58WY

 
Rut Roh! I already observe the predictable "minus votes" from their "army", with equally predictably; ZERO in the way of ANY coherently (or even sadly attempted) expressed opposition to the demonstrated truth of the posting. We're all ears here "spartans": Just what part of that post did "you'se" find at ALL inaccurate or the least bit untrue?...And if so, then WHY?  Don't just choke on your "Integrity Matters" T-shirts....? Try and actually THINK for a change, which should prove most amusing to all readers here in any case....So?
 
What part of being management's well-proven little lap dogs would you care to dispute, and based on what even remotely possible evidence? The AWA scabs operation against Ansett pilots? Perhaps your "leadership" directly asking the CEO if your sorry sorts "should turn in" supposedly "fellow pilots"?...Or should we further examine the west's eager campaigning in favor of a judicial injunction against all pilots?....Maybe just noting PHX's enthusiastic supporting of "fuel school", an obvious attempt to destroy pilots/captain's cockpit authority? Which should we start with here? I now open the floor to all of "Sparta", so kindly explain yourselves?...? Heck! Even just try explaining the pathetic nitwit in the above-posted video?
 
No matter, since the only predictable response(s) ever will be just some punk kid(s) posting "tee-hee-I'm-so-cute" pics, "heroically" posted Battle Flags from actual Armies they had no part in, or otherwise just "minus votes" indicative of only the finest of "minds"....Oh well. A continuing study of Arrested Development, it seems.
 
Sigh...I suppose that one just has to laugh sometimes, and that's not such a bad thing.  😉
 
P.S. Don't forget to season any (if ever even boldy and "herocially" attempted) replies with at least a full quart of "Righteousness", and of course at least a gallon or so of "Integrity", especially since none can ever reasonably expect even a half thimble;s worth of "Brains" to ever be evidenced...?

 

[EastUS1]

What part of being management's well-proven little lap dogs would you care to dispute, and based on what even remotely possible evidence? The AWA scabs operation against Ansett pilots? Perhaps your "leadership" directly asking the CEO if your sorry sorts "should turn in" supposedly "fellow pilots"?...Or should we further examine the west's eager campaigning in favor of a judicial injunction against all pilots?....Maybe just noting PHX's enthusiastic supporting of "fuel school", an obvious attempt to destroy pilots/captain's cockpit authority? Which should we start with here? I now open the floor to all of "Sparta", so kindly explain yourselves?...? Heck! Even just try explaining the pathetic nitwit in the above-posted video?

 
 
P.P.S. Not that any of "you'se" will ever even attempt to explain your actions, knowing the utter futility of even trying to do so in any at all conceivably favorable light, but just FYI?...Any claims of "The east made us do it! We aren't really responsible for our actions!" amounts to little more than a plea of temporary (or seemingly perpetual) insanity.....Just sayin'....
 
It never matters what/who any person claims to be in life, that's just why we all suffer the cancerous pestilence of spineless politicians and lawyers. Talk is the cheapest and most worthless commodity on earth. "This is Sparta!"/"Integrity Matters" childish nonsense not withstanding. What one actually does in their time alive is all that matters.
 
Case en pointe: Check out this 2004 hired dipsheep with evidently, precious little more to honestly offer the world than an "attitude", yet sufficient self "righteousness" to somehow fantasize it's/"his" sorry self somehow "worthy" of usurping 17+ plus worked-years of other human beings:
 
2) Eric was hired in 2003. I was hired in 2004, along with several 1989 US Air hires who were on furlough (again) from US Airways and happy to have a job.

3) I am a licensed attorney in Arizona."
 
For 3), The poor lad truly has my sincere condolences. The insane overproduction of half-witted "lawyers" in this nation of late renders them about as as truly useful as spent chewing gum on the sidewalks.

 

[cltrat]

East you know what they call  20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
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a good start
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[EastUS1]

The insane overproduction of half-witted "lawyers" in this nation of late renders them about as as truly useful as spent chewing gum on the sidewalks.

East you know what they call  20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
...
 
a good start
.
,,

 
Indeed sir, and that's only nowadays adjusted for inflation. We must remember that just a fairly few years ago it was only "5,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean" = "A good start". 😉
 
No matter, since I'd hardly want to improperly disparage any "proven"..umm...supposed "soldier" of "Sparta" here, and instead even vilely offer the slightest impression that I might, even possibly, ever consider such to be just another mindless, purely opportunistic, spineless little punk, especially one who's "heroically" graduated from some third/lowest-possible/last-tier-even-imaginable-law, umm... "school" just to selflessly make the whole world a far better place for us all. Who could possibly fail to be much impressed by such? 🙂 Any little, no matter how hopelessly arrogant, 2004 hire that imagines "it's" self magically "worthy' of usurping nearly 2 full decades of other people's worked lives, well?...I wouldn't even wipe my shoes off on such a pathetic little pimple on the arse of humanity. My wager as a Pilot's always open to such punks, and I'd even afford that particularly pathetic creature very favorable odds.
 
 
The pestilance of "lawyers" summed up in video for the easier digestion of otherwise too mentally/educationally impaired "spartans", many of whom have proven far too stupid to do other than sport "Integrity Matters" T-shirts, post "tee-hee" pics and buy "liberty" ties:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c1IqjsWsWE
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGR4SFOimlk
 
Is it just me?...Or does anyone else miss the historical eras/notions of actually honest and directly accountable personal Honor and the Code Duello? 😉

 

[luvthe9]

I'm sure the APA knows what they have gotten into. .

They sure do we have filled them in.................



"One of the four Leonidas LLC directors is apparently now employed as an American Airlines pilot;\

Having Kevin Horner associated in any way with this DFR only hurts the effort. How can he adequately meet the fiduciary requirements to fairly represent the class? Our sources have told us that Kevin Horners current union, the APA, is furious with him for his participation in a DFR suit against another union."


Your lovely videos, poop in the mail, tying up phone lines, identity theft.


They are well aware of the wests reputation, and not in a good way, you run all and sell some more ties if you can, the funds are running out very quickly., that we know.



REMEMBER RUSS AND DAVE KNOW WHATS BEST FOR YOU.

 

[EastUS1]

"No matter, since the only predictable response(s) ever will be just some punk kid(s) posting "tee-hee-I'm-so-cute" pics, "heroically" posted Battle Flags from actual Armies they had no part in, or otherwise just "minus votes" indicative of only the finest of "minds"....Oh well. A continuing study of Arrested Development, it seems."
 
And predictably proving yet again my saddest estimations of "spartans"; minus votes, but NOTHING else came forward. Can't any of "you'se" actually think and properly express your "thoughts"?....No matter.  I rest my case with that...although, while I'd think that cactuspilot now realizes that he's long-since made enough of an utter arse of himself with the "heroically" posted "Battle Flags" from actual Men (entirely unlike himself) that fought and died in the real world outside of Fantasyland/PHX/"This is Sparta!"; I'll admit some surprise at the immediate lack of "tee-hee-I'm-so-cute" pics from the likes of princess "EastCheats", but no honest surprise whatever about the seemingly universal "Spartan" obvious inabillity to actually think and express themselves....No college required for AWA whatsoever, after all...and no IQ testing/psych screening/NOTHING ...well...really just presumably opposable thumbs and a pulse, I guess...and we see those high standards continually evidenced here. I'd have to properly guess that anyone showing up for interview properly and formally attired in a "Dire Wolf" T-shirt and infantilely drooling on about being a "valor" soaked and "battle" tested "knight" would've been hired on the spot. The evidence to support that rather cruel assumption is in no short supply here, after all.
 
No IQ testing/no education needed/no psych screening...If the sad reality of that seems unduly harsh, well; how else could anyone even begin to explain this poor child's acceptance at AWA as even a supposed "pilot"? I'm all ears here....?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U

 

[EastUS1]

P.S. "No IQ testing/no education needed/no psych screening...If the sad reality of that seems unduly harsh, well; how else could anyone even begin to explain this poor child's acceptance at AWA as even a supposed "pilot"? I'm all ears here....?"
 
There are both some respectable Pilots in PHX and many fully decent people as well. Those; I've never any intention of offending. Whatever your reasons for ever accepting a gig with AWA's (industry timing/whatever) really none of my business, but you really should put your truly pitiful little "Spartan"/"knights"/"dire wolves" little punks on a much shorter leash.

 

[CAVOK]

The West Pilot Merger Committee Members:
 
DOH
 
David Braid            98
Mark Burman        98
Johan de Vicq        00
Eric Ferguson        03
Jeff O'Connell        87
Russ Payne             97
Jim Van Sickle       03
Mitch Vasin            04 
Roger Velez            96
 
 
Interesting. Only one had more than 10 years at the time of the merger and the two most vocal two had less than 18 months in May 2005. 
 
http://www.west-merger-committee.com/
 
How were these guys selected?

 

[EastUS1]

The West Pilot Merger Committee Members:
 
DOH
 
David Braid            98
Mark Burman        98
Johan de Vicq        00
Eric Ferguson        03
Jeff O'Connell        87
Russ Payne             97
Jim Van Sickle       03
Mitch Vasin            04 
Roger Velez            96
 
 
Interesting. Only one had more than 10 years at the time of the merger and the two most vocal two had less than 18 months in May 2005.

 
Not so much just "interesting" as actually evidencing purely pathological group behavior. WHERE were any even supposed adults while such pathetic punks were placed in "charge" of their quickly contrived, little Fantasyland "army" of supposed "spartans"? Were there no parents anywhere around, or even at all close to (at best) the high school that day?

 

[EastCheats]

The West Pilot Merger Committee Members:
 
DOH
 
David Braid            98
Mark Burman        98
Johan de Vicq        00
Eric Ferguson        03
Jeff O'Connell        87
Russ Payne             97
Jim Van Sickle       03
Mitch Vasin            04 
Roger Velez            96
 
 
Interesting. Only one had more than 10 years at the time of the merger and the two most vocal two had less than 18 months in May 2005. 
 
http://www.west-merger-committee.com/
 
How were these guys selected?

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[EastUS1]

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Sigh...Princess; I just have to ask with your latest: Are you some AWA pilot's teenaged daughter?...Or otherwise, simply an unfortunate individual seriously struggling with personal development issues?
 
Perhaps you just mean to generously validate the earlier observation?: "...many of whom have proven far too stupid to do other than sport "Integrity Matters" T-shirts, post "tee-hee" pics and buy "liberty" ties"...?

 

[EastUS1]

 
Rut Roh! I already observe the predictable "minus votes" from their "army", with equally predictably; ZERO in the way of ANY coherently (or even sadly attempted) expressed opposition to the demonstrated truth of the posting. We're all ears here "spartans": Just what part of that post did "you'se" find at ALL inaccurate or the least bit untrue?...And if so, then WHY?  Don't just choke on your "Integrity Matters" T-shirts....? Try and actually THINK for a change, which should prove most amusing to all readers here in any case....So?
 
What part of being management's well-proven little lap dogs would you care to dispute, and based on what even remotely possible evidence? The AWA scabs operation against Ansett pilots? Perhaps your "leadership" directly asking the CEO if your sorry sorts "should turn in" supposedly "fellow pilots"?...Or should we further examine the west's eager campaigning in favor of a judicial injunction against all pilots?....Maybe just noting PHX's enthusiastic supporting of "fuel school", an obvious attempt to destroy pilots/captain's cockpit authority? Which should we start with here? I now open the floor to all of "Sparta", so kindly explain yourselves?...? Heck! Even just try explaining the pathetic nitwit in the above-posted video?
 
No matter, since the only predictable response(s) ever will be just some punk kid(s) posting "tee-hee-I'm-so-cute" pics, "heroically" posted Battle Flags from actual Armies they had no part in, or otherwise just "minus votes" indicative of only the finest of "minds"....Oh well. A continuing study of Arrested Development, it seems.
 
Sigh...I suppose that one just has to laugh sometimes, and that's not such a bad thing.  😉
 
P.S. Don't forget to season any (if ever even boldy and "herocially" attempted) replies with at least a full quart of "Righteousness", and of course at least a gallon or so of "Integrity", especially since none can ever reasonably expect even a half thimble;s worth of "Brains" to ever be evidenced...?

 
Minus votes aplenty. I can understand that and now clearly see where I went wrong and fully offended. = "Try and actually THINK for a change"

 

[EastUS1]

 
Not so much just "interesting" as actually evidencing purely pathological group behavior. WHERE were any even supposed adults while such pathetic punks were placed in "charge" of their quickly contrived, little Fantasyland "army" of supposed "spartans"? Were there no parents anywhere around, or even at all close to (at best) the high school that day?

 
 
"or otherwise just "minus votes" indicative of only the finest of "minds"....Oh well. A continuing study of Arrested Development, it seems." Just a moment's idle curiosity here, but is it truly the case than none of "you'se" pathetic "spartan" morons can actually THINK and properly express yourselves through even any semblance of reasoned argument, rather than just minus votes and "cute" pics? Apparently not, it would sadly seem. Be gently advised that the wholesale lack of any actual education removes no responsibility for not having an actual "mind".
 
I'm almost starting to believe these past eight years here have been more an unintended study in primative anthropology, rather than one of merely Arrested Development here....Just kidding about the first part, but still...?  "You'se" must honestly admit that the emphatically simian gesturing and mindlessly gutteral utterances might give even the most casual observer some proper pause....
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66EvBBj5tQ
 
 
Welcome to 'em APA. They're all yours now...and properly sincere apologies. We had no intention of ever inflicting even ourselves, or much less such fine "people" as above demonstrated on video on American. What can sadly be promised, from observation, from the little PHX minority is that they'll predictably, always vote for whatever the company wants. Many have previously and eagerly stated their ready desire to scab if it benefits them on just these boards alone.  Their previously mentioned umm..."leadership" eagerly asking the CEO whether they "should I turn them in" situation/video actually took place and is on record. I naturally mean no aspersions towards the mighty "spartans"...but seriously; Good Luck and have "fun" with such almost unbelievably childish fools...and never turn your back on them without someone watching it for you.. They've proven themselves far more than just ready and able, but even incredibly eager to "turn in"/back-stab/etc any "fellow pilots" that won't acquiesce to their incredibly narcisisstic needs at any given moment...which, one can only assume, would include not only artificially enhanced "seniority" but  probably even a nice glass of warm milk and cookies too.

 

[Phoenix]

The West Pilot Merger Committee Members:
 
DOH
 
David Braid            98
Mark Burman        98
Johan de Vicq        00
Eric Ferguson        03
Jeff O'Connell        87
Russ Payne             97
Jim Van Sickle       03
Mitch Vasin            04 
Roger Velez            96
 
 
Interesting. Only one had more than 10 years at the time of the merger and the two most vocal two had less than 18 months in May 2005. 
 
http://www.west-merger-committee.com/
 
How were these guys selected?

Did you miss the election?

 

[Metroyet]

The West Pilot Merger Committee Members:
 
DOH
 
David Braid            98
Mark Burman        98
Johan de Vicq        00
Eric Ferguson        03
Jeff O'Connell        87
Russ Payne             97
Jim Van Sickle       03
Mitch Vasin            04 
Roger Velez            96
 
 
Interesting. Only one had more than 10 years at the time of the merger and the two most vocal two had less than 18 months in May 2005. 
 
http://www.west-merger-committee.com/
 
How were these guys selected?

NONE were on furlough. NONE were at a twice bankrupt soon to be dead airline. Nope, they worked for the healthy, acquiring company. None of this was lost on Nicolau, and none of it will be lost on his protoges, you'll be meeting with in June. The West will walk everyone through the USAPA years in crystal clear detail. Nothing USCABA co an do about that despite every conceivable effort to stop this from happening.