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FL430 said:
Some westie Quotes to Capn Aux for posing With Sully and Skiles. Drama in the desert lol! :
Gary Bakewell (Comment unprintable)
Jeff Abbott I hear he retired so he could have weekly TOGA parties.
Tony Anger Nothing to do with hate Celeste... it's just history was changed to make him look like a hero after he threw the flight attendants under the bus and what he did at the court hearings with the usapa scab Union problem...
James E. Gillespie He lied about his fellow pilots under oath in a court of law! The man has no integrity! Or honor!
Tony Lozano It's all public record, Addington I, II and III under Maricopa County Superior Court, look it up for yourself.
Danny O'Neil That's about as accurate of a comparison as I've heard.
I'm a friend of Eric's from work and I know him to be a standup guy.
It's something I wish wouldn't have happened but it did, and I'm not going to condemn him for it.
As a West Pilot I know I'm too close to this to be objective.
Sully sucks! And Skiles too!!
But everyone went home that fateful day and that's what the movie is about.
Mary Ann Laverty Tony.. much respect I give you. Thank you. I am not speaking for Eric. No need for me to do that... But I can tell you this... He agonized on this assignment before accepting it. Sent a beautiful and polite reply for his need to decline. As he expressed it all to me.. He realized , He still can write this piece objectively without having to drag the ugly issues that's connected to it. Just like that time in Oshkosh... ERIC was man enough..to face the very enemy that caused him and many of his colleagues Injustice with pride and HONESTY. Something this two failed miserably UNDER OATH!! All I'm saying... THERE IS A TIME AND DAY FOR EVERYTHING. THAT FIGHT WASN'T ONE AT THIS JUNCTURE!! AND I LOVE YOU TO PIECES AS WELL!!
Celeste Meyerhoff Omg!! Guess what pilots?? This movie/story IS NOT about you, your seniority, your hours, your job security!! It IS about 155 people coming home to their loved ones!! What if YOU had a family member on that flight? What if YOU were the captain?? There aren't movies about plane crashes starring Tom Hanks and directed by Clint Eastwood every day!! It COULD have been YOU! How Would you have felt if they ALL didn't make it?? Our company and our lives would have been very different!! Eric, thank you for being non judgmental and writing on the movie!! I pray that you don't have to fly with any narcissistic pilots!!
Jeff Abbott That's the whole point Celeste... If he had pushed the throttles up they may not have had to land in the drink in the first place. The lack of integrity in regards to our seniority battle with the other scabs is just icing on the scab cake. He's no hero like he likes to portray. And you're right, it's not about our seniority. He was the one that made it about seniority by testifying in court for the sole purpose of using it against us.
Michael Africa I for one will not pay one penny to see this movie. I will not put any money in that man's pocket. His testimony in court against the America West pilots over a final and binding arbitrated seniority list was disgusting and showed his true self. He has contributed to the loss of thousands of dollars in wages, upgrades, and career stagnation of the America West pilots and the first officers in particular. Sully, I have integrity, and I will never reward you for your assistance in the destruction of the West pilots careers. Eric wrote a fine article and I hope the movie portrays pilots and flight attendants in a positive light. Sully did what he did and everyone survived, but it stops there for me. His antics in court were just like what a scab would do by crossing a picket line.
Jeff Abbott I'm going to pay for this movie (and sneak into the scab movie after) as to avoid lining said scab's pockets
Ross McDonagh I had an east guy attack me on Quora over calling US Airways by its AWE Callsign and I beat him up over it. I'll post the pics.
Tony Lozano Don't piss me off Capnaux!
Sullenberger is an ####. I wouldn't want to be seen standing with him.
Gary Bakewell Really Eric? Posing with SULLY at Oshkosh for a little self-promo? Man. I don't know about the rest of your Internet Trash Talk News fans, but I for one am DAMN disappointed. Would've never thought it possible. But hey...you do what you think you need to do for the growing Cap'n Aux empire I guess.
. Wow AUX sold out his own integrity, and justifies it for the sake of journalism! Do these whack jobs take themselves seriously? LMAO
 
OBTW , the narcassistic pilot finder can be purchased at AOL bookstore , at a discount this month included inside is an extra copy of the "NIC" with a picture of the ole glory Liberty tie, hurry while supplies last.
 
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Case Information
Case Number: R-0751-PR-2012035509
Title: ANGER ANTHONY BRYAN Category: Traffic
Court: Scottsdale City Court Filing Date: 10/31/2012
Judge: None Disposition Date: 11/12/2012
ANTHONY BRYAN ANGER DEFENDANT - D 1 Date of Birth: 11/1955
Case Activity
Date Description Party
11/12/2012 CALENDAR DATE VACATED D 1
11/12/2012 ID RECEIVED ACTION PENDING D 1
11/12/2012 PR - DISMISSED STATES MOTION D 1
10/31/2012 PE ACKNOWLEDGMENT DEADLINE SET D 1
10/31/2012 COMPLAINT FILED - ELECTRONIC D 1
10/31/2012 ARRAIGNMENT SET D 1
 
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An' doan worry...all'a mah books are writ in "proper" English fer eazy laughter-filled readin'. 'Ceptin' o'course when Ah uze werds such az "breasticles"...which iz only RAREly Ah promise.
P.S. Ah'd sure be pickled TINK if'n ya' decided tuh "share" this!
 
Claxon said:
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Case Information
Case Number: R-0751-PR-2012035509
Title: ANGER ANTHONY BRYAN Category: Traffic
Court: Scottsdale City Court Filing Date: 10/31/2012
Judge: None Disposition Date: 11/12/2012
ANTHONY BRYAN ANGER DEFENDANT - D 1 Date of Birth: 11/1955
Case Activity
Date Description Party
11/12/2012 CALENDAR DATE VACATED D 1
11/12/2012 ID RECEIVED ACTION PENDING D 1
11/12/2012 PR - DISMISSED STATES MOTION D 1
10/31/2012 PE ACKNOWLEDGMENT DEADLINE SET D 1
10/31/2012 COMPLAINT FILED - ELECTRONIC D 1
10/31/2012 ARRAIGNMENT SET D 1
 
They don't have arraignments for failure to stop at a stop sign.  This "traffic" violation is obviously the real deal.
 
I wonder if he reported this on his FAA Class 1 medical application as required by law.  Failure to do so would be a disqualifying violation.
 
Claxon said:
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Case Information
Case Number: R-0751-PR-2012035509
Title: ANGER ANTHONY BRYAN Category: Traffic
Court: Scottsdale City Court Filing Date: 10/31/2012
Judge: None Disposition Date: 11/12/2012
ANTHONY BRYAN ANGER DEFENDANT - D 1 Date of Birth: 11/1955
Case Activity
Date Description Party
11/12/2012 CALENDAR DATE VACATED D 1
11/12/2012 ID RECEIVED ACTION PENDING D 1
11/12/2012 PR - DISMISSED STATES MOTION D 1
10/31/2012 PE ACKNOWLEDGMENT DEADLINE SET D 1
10/31/2012 COMPLAINT FILED - ELECTRONIC D 1
10/31/2012 ARRAIGNMENT SET D 1



No surprise again
 
dariencc said:
Another grown man acting out like an attention starved adolescent.  Makes one so proud to be a part of this great "team."
Like this guy too, Res Judica:

Old 14th August 2011, 07:10 PM #91
Mark C Doyal
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Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
Mark Doyal's story is unlikely. He claims:

"The polygraph exam was next, August 7, 1996, in San Antonio, Texas. I knew I had nothing to worry about, since I had never violated the FBI's drug policy and I had not lied on my application. The agent administering the polygraph noted during the pre-polygraph interview that I had attended a university that he believed was a 'party school' and that I needed to tell him what drugs I used when I went there. I stated that I had taken none, that I didn't live on campus, I lived in another city, and that I was an older student and wasn't influenced to do such things. He repeated that that couldn't be the case and told me again to tell him what illegal drugs I had done. I countered again that that just wasn't the case and that I was telling the truth. This went back and forth for about 10 minutes and he seemed to be getting upset that I wouldn't admit to taking drugs. Finally he stated that if I was lying he was about to find out. I was upset at the unbelievable accusations he was making. Up until that point I had been treated with the utmost professionalism by the FBI staff, now I was being treated like an accused criminal. After the polygraph was over, he told me I had failed. I almost passed out in disbelief.

"I wrote several letters to FBI Director Freeh, and in October of 1996 I was polygraphed again, by another agent with the first agent who polygraphed me present. The results were the same, he told me I had failed. I just could not believe it. I had not lied on the polygraph. Even the first agent that had polygraphed me told me as I was leaving that he now believed me, that I was telling the truth. I wrote the Director several more times to no avail, my application was terminated in November of that year. My dreams were shattered."

The behavior he attributes to the first polygrapher would have been unprofessional in the extreme. I can understand why that polygrapher might have thrown out the "party school" comment, but it would have made little sense for him to insist that Doyal must have used drugs there. Obviously, even at a "party school", many students would not have been drug users. So, I doubt if the polygrapher would have behaved in such an illogical manner. However, if he did and Doyal wrote even one letter to FBI Director Freeh about this, it's likely that Freeh would have launched an investigation of the polygrapher. At an absolute minimum, if Freeh thought that Doyal deserved another polygraph, why would Freeh have permitted the original polygrapher to be present for the second polygraph? And if was there and told Doyal he now believed Doyal, why did Doyal fail the second exam?

So, I suspect that there is far more to the story than Doyal is admitting. However, in the unlikely event that his story is accurate, it would indicate a highly flawed FBI process, as opposed to the polygraph itself being flawed.
Originally Posted by Locknar
I'll go one step further, Doyal's story is total make-believe. Sure, this is how its done on TV...but anyone that has been through the process knows just how false this story is.
Hello everyone. I'm Mark C. Doyal, and I wrote that statement back in the late 90's.

I know I'm very late to this party here, this thread is 4 years old (it's amazing what a google search will give you).

As far as the statement goes, it is 100% accurate. I did not embellish or over exaggerate anything. The first individual that gave me the polygraph was somewhat hostile to me during the pre questioning session (you are told in advance what the questions are). During this pre-question discussion, he apparently thought he was doing me a favor by trying to get me to confess any "sins" before he hooked me up. Since I was already telling the truth, he was somewhat agitated when I didn't change my story. I believe his words were as he was hooking me up were "Well, we're about to find out if you are lying".

Another part of the story that I did not include was the baseline question. A baseline question is a question that they know you will lie about, or want you to lie about, then measure your response. Once the polygraph starts, any "response" that exceeds that baseline response is a lie, anything that doesn't is the truth. The baseline question he asked me concerned my speeding. He knew what kind of car I drove (300ZX Twin Turbo). The question he asked was "Do you habitually violate traffic laws?" I gave him an honest answer: Yes. I remember him looking at me and asking it again, which I replied "Yes" again. After the 3rd repetition of this question, I finally understood he wanted me to say "No", as by answering truthfully he thought he wasn't getting a good baseline "lie".

So, based on his very strong "hint", I changed my answer to "No". I wasn't in a position at that moment to understand what he was doing, and I wanted to please him, and I trusted he was doing the right thing. At the time I thought it was some sort of joke. But the baseline question is supposed to be something that will trigger a nice "lie" response.

And that baseline answer apparently didn't register very high on his machine. We continued the Q&A, then repeated it. After it was over he told me I had failed.

A few months later I was given a second chance. They brought in a new agent who told me Director Freeh had personally directed him to fly to SA and administer the polygraph. The first polygraph administrator was present during this second polygraph. I was told that I was showing deception on all answers now.

That was along time ago and I have moved on. But, after reading the two above quotes I wanted it to be known that was exactly how it happened. The polygraph has some uses, but how it's being used in prescreening applicants is wrong and tragic.

Mark C. Doyal
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Eric Auxier
August 29 at 8:48am ·
To my AWA colleagues:
I completely understand your feelings. You all know that I am in the same boat as all of you, and have stood in solidarity in our fight against USAPA tyranny. I am particularly proud of our ITT News broadcasts, in which we spoke loud and clear against it.
I do not mix our inner politics in my blog and Airways writings. It is simply not the right venue for that. Frankly, to do so would look petty. However, I did speak out about USAPA tyranny in this Airways piece: https://airwaysmag.com/indus…/the-airline-pilots-kryptonite/
I can assure you, I won’t be writing any articles praising Sully’s accolades or actions. And, if the “Sully” movie so much as breathes some BS about our seniority battle, the gloves will come off, and I will go on the warpath.
Today, we hold out hope that, with the AAL merger, we are on the verge of solving a twelve year seniority battle. I am proud of my West brothers and sisters, the fight we have taken against malice, greed and tyranny, and to this day stand by them in solidarity.
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Claxon said:
I can assure you, I won’t be writing any articles praising Sully’s accolades or actions. And, if the “Sully” movie so much as breathes some BS about our seniority battle, the gloves will come off, and I will go on the warpath.
 
 
:lol:  The 8 readers of Airways online "magazine" would have been so impressed.
 
Claxon said:
Eric Auxier
August 29 at 8:48am ·
To my AWA colleagues:
I completely understand your feelings. You all know that I am in the same boat as all of you, and have stood in solidarity in our fight against USAPA tyranny. I am particularly proud of our ITT News broadcasts, in which we spoke loud and clear against it.
I do not mix our inner politics in my blog and Airways writings. It is simply not the right venue for that. Frankly, to do so would look petty. However, I did speak out about USAPA tyranny in this Airways piece: https://airwaysmag.com/indus…/the-airline-pilots-kryptonite/
I can assure you, I won’t be writing any articles praising Sully’s accolades or actions. And, if the “Sully” movie so much as breathes some BS about our seniority battle, the gloves will come off, and I will go on the warpath.
Today, we hold out hope that, with the AAL merger, we are on the verge of solving a twelve year seniority battle. I am proud of my West brothers and sisters, the fight we have taken against malice, greed and tyranny, and to this day stand by them in solidarity.
Image may contain: 1 person , outdoor
Your childish videos really? You do not mix inner politics and your blog because you have no morals, it is about sales of your brand, and frankly hypocrite comes to mind! You sold your own group out, hilarious!
 
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