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BTW LS. Thanks for changing the original post reply. Something about a note? Vote? and Shove? I had to go back and see what happened to it. And rechange this reply.

I'm typing all this on an iphone in a room on a layover, sorry about that, its kind of labor intensive and slow. Basically I was making a wise crack about telling Prater "here is your vote, now shove it..." In other words, yes I'm voting for alpa but definately not on your account John.
 
I'm typing all this on an iphone in a room on a layover, sorry about that, its kind of labor intensive and slow. Basically I was making a wise crack about telling Prater "here is your vote, now shove it..." In other words, yes I'm voting for alpa but definately not on your account John.

I have to guess that he won't be overly upset though. You're just some "lowly line pilot", and there's rarely been demonstrated much concern at Alpa for any issues of membership voting. Unless it impacts his half MILLION plus per year, and comfy little lifestyle...I'm thinking that precious few "concerned" tears will be shed up at Herndon at your personal discomfort level..as..there's certainly no precedent for such to be found.
 
FYI:

Fellow Pilots,

The US Airline Pilots Association will now start to announce the names of pilots who will act as pilot domicile interim representatives (Pilot Board Members) on the USAPA Pilot Board. Since USAPA represents only the US Airways East and West pilots, the USAPA Pilot Board will take the place of ALPA National’s Executive Council and the US Airways and America West MECs.

Under the direction of USAPA Steering Committee Chairman Steve Szpyrka, Steering Committees were created in all bases. These committees then searched for pilots who exemplified qualities such as integrity and energy, along with pertinent qualifications that would assist the pilot in making good decisions, and be the best pilot advocate possible, with an emphasis on the ability to work together as a team. Once nominees were tentatively chosen, interviews were conducted both as a means to become familiar with the nominees, but also to get fellow pilots’ thoughts on the potential selectees. Once this step was completed, the Steering Committees presented their selections to the Interim Officers of USAPA (President, Vice President and Secretary-Treasurer). Presented with the Steering Committees’ recommendations, the Officers confirmed that those selections followed the stated guidelines, and further confirmed that the Steering Committees had in-fact selected the best candidates to serve on the Pilot Board. Members of the recent ALPA MEC (2007 thru February 2008) were never considered, as it was deemed imperative that USAPA start with different leadership.

The pilots selected will serve as interim Pilot Board members, as the USAPA Officers are fully aware of the sanctity of pilot elections for leadership positions. The interim appointments will serve their purpose providing USAPA initial leadership, however a moderately aggressive Executive Officer and Pilot Board election schedule is in place per the USAPA constitution. The subject of elections inside the Constitution takes into account future elections in the years to come, therefore elections are rotating, or staggered, so as to maintain leadership continuity. To summarize election particulars:

Two domiciles (minimum) will conduct Pilot Board elections each quarter, until such time as all Pilot Board members are elected; there are seven domiciles.

Pilot Board members are elected for a three year term.

Executive Officer elections will be held within 12 months of USAPA’s certification.

Executive Officers will be elected for a three year term.

The first appointees we will announce are the Pilot Board members from the PHL crew base – we asked each Interim Rep to provide an introductory bio for those that don’t know them:

PHL Interim Chairman – Captain Doug Burke

My name is Doug Burke. I was hired with Allegheny Airlines on February 13 1978. I have flown the BAC1-11, DC9, MD80, B757/767, AB319, and now the AB330 in PHL. I consider myself to be “just a line pilot†and I’m very happy to be one. I was exposed to union service at a very early age as a result of my father’s work with the union; my father started with All American Airways and retired in 1985. Because of my father’s union work I felt that I should also give something back to my fellow pilots. I worked on the Professional Standards Committee in PIT for just under ten years, and over that period I was appointed Professional Standards Chairman in PIT and eventually MEC Professional Standards Chairman.

PHL Interim Vice-Chairman – Captain Roger Henriksson

I am 47 years old, married to my second wife, Susan, have two children from my first marriage, Jacob 20, and Amy 18. I am currently living in Albany, NY, and will be based in LGA through March, then, starting April 1st in PHL. My position in both bases is A-320 Captain. I was born Feb 15 1961 in Gothenburg, Sweden. Completed all academic studies in my native country, as well as my mandatory military service. Was discharged as a 2nd Lt in the infantry. Moved to the USA in 1981, and after completing my training, did the flt instructor/charter/commuter thing until being hired by Empire in 1985. Spent the next 22 years as an F/O on the F-28, B-737, B-757/767, and A-330, until "checking out" on the A-320. I am very happy to accept the invitation to serve my fellow pilots, and will do so to the very best of my ability.

PHL Interim Vice-Chairman – First Officer Pete Dugstad

I'm Pete Dugstad, just a line pilot but a pilot advocate. My hiring process included an interview in PIT, but I was hired by Piedmont and attended training in INT as the first post merger class on 8/16/89. Since then I have flown the F-28, the MD-80, the 737-200 (as both F/O and Captain on MetroJet), the 737-300/400 and now, I am currently based on the 767 Int'l in PHL. I have been furloughed 3 times (1991-1992, 1996, and 2002-2007). I volunteered in ALPA committee work in 1992 and stayed involved through 2002 in the following committees: Membership Services, Strike Preparedness, Furlough Administrator, Training (held both Vice-Chair and Chairman) and also co-authored the Mentor Program in the late 1990's when we were hiring again.

Prior to US Airways, I flew for Presidential, Air Virginia, and Piedmont Aviation. While on 3 furloughs, I have sold cars (got to put food on the table someway) flown for Chautauqua as a Captain on the E-145 through J4J, and on the 757/767 globally for North American Airlines. I am a proud graduate of Virginia Tech (1982), a former enlisted United States Marine (Sgt. E-5) and am married to a wonderful wife (22 yrs. this year) and have two outstanding sons (14 and 16). I am honored and humbled to be considered for this position.

Watch in the coming days as we announce the remaining Interim Representatives and committee members.

Thank you for your continuing support.
 
I have to guess that he won't be overly upset though. You're just some "lowly line pilot", and there's rarely been demonstrated much concern at Alpa for any issues of membership voting. Unless it impacts his half MILLION plus per year, and comfy little lifestyle...I'm thinking that precious few "concerned" tears will be shed up at Herndon at your personal discomfort level..as..there's certainly no precedent for such to be found.

No argument here.
 
I'm typing all this on an iphone in a room on a layover, sorry about that, its kind of labor intensive and slow. Basically I was making a wise crack about telling Prater "here is your vote, now shove it..." In other words, yes I'm voting for alpa but definately not on your account John.
No problem. Hope it's somewhere decent.
 
Can't wait to see who USAPA names as interim reps for one of the biggest domiciles (PHX).
Someone wake me up when it is April 17th.
 
AWA MEC Chairman Roadtrip report

DAY 3 - CLT CREW ROOM
March 5, 2008
810 am - Arrival


***ALERT*** at approx 4 PM, the CLT Chief Pilot took me aside and showed me an email from our new labor corporate attorney (formerly fedex) banning me from ALL crew rooms because of complaints from USAPA to management.

WOW.

I guess USAPA (who also already wants full time flight pay loss - btw why did Lee Seham not think of that for us AWAPA “VOLUNTEERSâ€￾ when were running our independent drive) has some REAL pull with management!

It’s too bad management blinked at USAPA’s shrill and chicken-#### complaints. I told management that USAPA’s complaints were BS and the litmus test was that I would be out there even if no election was going on.

I guess USAPA is afraid I might actually answer some questions. I can’t believe that they would try and ban someone like me who has dedicated almost every year of his career as a union advocate for line pilots (most of it NOT on FPL by the way) from talking with pilots.

Oh well - the lawyers are raising cain, but mgmt is holding their ground. I guess that means USAPA and Management are in cahoots? Hmmm.

The sad part is that I think all the union reps should be out there talking with and answering questions from their pilots. They have a lot of questions and concerns right now, 99% of which has nothing to do with this election, but it looks like this management is determined to keep them in the dark because they are afraid of appeals after the election.

And that is a real shame.

I’ll be heading home to PHX tomorrow.

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The SINGULAR issue with this is that Jonnie Mac is the MEC Chairman for the West. Just like Lance and Marshall, he may be a line pilot, but he is an ELECTED union rep FIRST! His intentions may have been good and I do not doubt that, but you CAN'T disassociate yourself from being a union MEC Chairman and act as a "pilot" any more than George Bush could come into town and act like a "citizen". The two are inseparable. (If, and UNLESS, he was flying a line trip or had union business in CLT and had a "legitimate" reason to be present.)

USAPA DID COMPLAIN! WHY? Give USAPA the same access to the crew-rooms as the MEC Reps and they WON'T complain. Let USAPA get flight pay loss for THEIR "volunteers" using DONATED money instead of YOUR hard-earned dues and maybe the complaint would be withdrawn.

Lance and Marshall tried that at the USAPA road show: "we're just here as line pilots". BS! You are an ELECTED union rep. Your duty is to the UNION FIRST, the pilots SECOND!

So now Jonnie is ANGRY at the Chief Pilot and believes that USAPA RUNS with management? MAYBE IN HIS DREAMS!

The real reason is Jonnie isn't making headway out East and realizes he is wasting his time.

I might agree the union Reps should be out there....but Jonnie Mac is NOT a union "rep"....he is the West MEC Chairman and it is NOT his place to go out and "solicit" input in a "road-show" manner.

YA THINK?
 
So USAPA's official position is that the company can, and should, bar elected CBA representatives from crew rooms.....interesting.

Jim



Let's see, a couple of CLT Buuba kool aid reps petitioned to have USAPA removed months ago. You see its not about the rank and file with ALPA, as their inverse pyramid philosphy would imply, its about ALPA. As far as ALPA is concerned the opinons of the majority no longer matter. ALPA puts duly elected reps into receivership to manipulate elections and make sure their's is the only voice heard. They got in the mud and slopped around and thew mud everywhere. Hey I have an idea for you, if ALPA wants to get the voice of an MEC chair head. Why doesn't the East MEC chair go out an fly 85 hours a month and he will hear more "real" pilots concerns and opinions in a month then he has heard in years. He might actually have to live their problems.

ALPA is a dues collection agency and not a union and their "policies/guidelines" have set this profession back over the last 30 years and their cheap A$$ dirty tactics in trying to hold on to the dues is centered around stymieing the rank and file voice and holding onto power and now it has turned into a fight. ALPA engaged control tactics vs a debate they knew they couldn't win.

BOO HOO!
 
So USAPA's official position is that the company can, and should, bar elected CBA representatives from crew rooms.....interesting.

Jim

It's not USAPA's "official" position. It is the employers right. And IF they were to allow ALPA Reps to "campaign" rather than to allow them Represent....and THIS IS THE KEY DISTICNTION, Jim, political issues have NO BUSINESS in the workplace. Not for USAPA and certainly NOT for ALPA (or Teamsters, IAM, etc.)! Representatives who are on company property doing what they were ELECTED to do...represent according to their DUTIES, is an entirely different matter. Grievances, flight safety, etc.

In fact, Labor Law has ALWAYS been supportive of the COMPANIES rights in these matters.

If Jonnie wants to discuss how to negotiate contracts, that is done OUTSIDE the pervue of the workplace. This applies to USAPA as much, if not MORE, than the current CBA. PERIOD!

Sorry, Jim....that's the way it works!
 
If Jonnie wants to discuss how to negotiate contracts, that is done OUTSIDE the pervue of the workplace. This applies to USAPA as much, if not MORE, than the current CBA. PERIOD!
So USAPA's position is that the company can ban it's reps from the crewrooms during contract negotiations.....can't have a rep talking about negotiations in the crew room. Got it.

Just seems short sighted that USAPA would want give the company the right to ban CBA reps from the crewroom for any reason. Management is undoubtedly delighted.....

Jim
 
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