Bush Won, America Got It Right Again!

[USAir757]

I'm heading out this afternoon to find my "don't blame me, I voted for Kerry" bumper sticker. I remember seeing the "don't blame me, I voted for Bush" on the bumpers of cars back in 1992. Saw them all thru the Clinton presidency, a time of economic growth and low unemployment. I hope that my bumper sticker, like those in the 1990's can be proven wrong. It's the only hope I've got.

And you are certainly entitled to display that sticker - it's certainly better than "Don't blame me, I voted with the majority."

But interesting, KC, that as economically bad shape as you say Missouri is in, they still elected George W. Bush to an overwhelming 53%-46% over Kerry. With the way you described those hardships people in Kansas City are suffering now with lost jobs, I would have thought certainly they'd have voted for John Kerry, after all he was promising people like them.

Guess they saw the light???

 

[whlinder]

No, in OUR world it is better to have a president who is "consistent" and not "ambiguous". It is better to have a president who leads with "integrity", not "fraudulence." It is better to have a president who runs "on" his record, not "away" from it.

[post="197553"][/post]​

Say what? It is better to be consistent, even if you are consistently wrong? I'd rather a president who says "My bad, I thought there were WMDs, turns out there aren't, I F'ed up, now help me fix this mess I caused and I will do whatever I can to not let it happen again."

Integrity? You can't stand up and say "The economy is good, we're creating jobs, we're making America safer" when none of that is true. Integrity is taking accountability for record budget deficits caused by a war that was started due to faulty inteligence.

Bush's record? The only President to lose American jobs since the Depression. Horrible environmental ratings. Worst terrorist attack in our history. Attacked the wrong country. Iran has nukes. Iraq had what again? Did he type the memo wrong when he said "invade Iraq"?

With a record like that he should have been creamed. Unfortunately, Kerry wasn't the greatest candidate, and Bush continually saying that we'd all be less safe without him, plus him convincing the radical republicans that he loves God and Kerry doesn't, got enough drones to get out and vote for him.

 

[delldude]

Here's my prognosis for just how "lucky" we all are.

1. Terrorist attack on US soil before the end of 2006. All our efforts against Saddam and his non-threat will be for naught.

2. Reimplementation of the draft by the end of 2006. This would have happened regardless of who was elected.

3. Net increase in job losses over the next 4 years. Keep a close eye on that one, Ohioans...y'all have a lot of manufacturing just waiting to move to a maquiladora on the border.

4. Stock market will improve, what with all the "cost cutting" efforts by the corporations. Since the stock market is pretty much the sole "indicator" of "economic health", we'll all be told how good we've got it.

5. Crackdowns on organized protests - they will be considered to be "suspected terrorists", and with this being a "lame duck" second term, public outcry be damned. Goodbye First Ammendment.

6. More tax breaks. Bigger deficeit. Bankrupt country with 3 years after Bush leaves office.

7. Islamic leader will be elected the Iraqi president. Iraqi civil war. More fun in the desert for us.

8. Iran will increase it's efforts against America. No help from our alienated allies.

9. The supreme court will shift from a conservative court to a neoconservative court, which will blur the lines between the legislative and judicial branches and result in a court that tries to enact laws rather than interpret them.

10. Negotiations with North Korea and their nuclear program will stall.

11. And if we're really lucky - World War III.

I'm heading out this afternoon to find my "don't blame me, I voted for Kerry" bumper sticker. I remember seeing the "don't blame me, I voted for Bush" on the bumpers of cars back in 1992. Saw them all thru the Clinton presidency, a time of economic growth and low unemployment. I hope that my bumper sticker, like those in the 1990's can be proven wrong. It's the only hope I've got.

[post="197558"][/post]​

yeah...

 

[whlinder]

But interesting, KC, that as economically bad shape as you say Missouri is in, they still elected George W. Bush to an overwhelming 53%-46% over Kerry. With the way you described those hardships people in Kansas City are suffering now with lost jobs, I would have thought certainly they'd have voted for John Kerry, after all he was promising people like them.

Guess they saw the light???

[post="197560"][/post]​

It is the same phenomenon is West Virginia, the poorest state in the country, which has now voted for Dumbya two times. Exit polling has seemed to indicate that the most important factor was "morals." I think this is why folks in economically tough areas are continuing to vote for Bush; he has been successfully marketed as being the religious candidate and Kerry as one who isn't. Interestingly, we all know Kerry is a Catholic, but what exact is Bush? Where does he go to church? People just buy into that. They also want to be safe. And Bush has been marketed as being tough against terrorists, even though he is 0 for 3 years trying to catch Osama.

Morals. I guess if you invade a country and kill thousands of people, you have morals.

 

[KCFlyer]

yeah...

[post="197563"][/post]​

We shall see

 

[NWA/AMT]

...and Vietnam vets, who were branded as war criminals by the flip-flopper himself, can rest easy.

[post="197517"][/post]​

You never did get it, did you. If you had ever read his testimony before Congress you would realize that it was the Vietnam-era government he was calling war criminals.

 

[KCFlyer]

But interesting, KC, that as economically bad shape as you say Missouri is in, they still elected George W. Bush to an overwhelming 53%-46% over Kerry. With the way you described those hardships people in Kansas City are suffering now with lost jobs, I would have thought certainly they'd have voted for John Kerry, after all he was promising people like them.

Guess they saw the light???

[post="197560"][/post]​

Dig a little deeper my friend. There are two “major†cities in Missouri, Kansas City and St. Louis. That’s where most of the “non farm†jobs are. In Jackson County, Mo (Kansas City), Kerry won 57% of the vote. In St Louis County, Kerry won 54%...in St Louis city proper, Kerry won 80%. The rest of Missouri fell for his folksy way of dropping the “g†from words ending in “ing†and voted the fear ticket.

On the Kansas side, Kansas is heavily republican. Johnson County, KS is sometimes called the “golden ghettoâ€, and usually votes straight Republican. Kerry got 32% of the vote. In the “other†Kansas City (KC Kansas) Kerry took 64%. Johnson County has white collar jobs and is home to several Sprint executives. Wyandotte County (KCK) is blue collar manufacturing. The fact that Kerry captured 32% in Johnson County is phenomenal. What's even more phenomenal is that a DEMOCRAT won over a neocon republican for the US House...by a 10 point margin.

 

[whlinder]

What's even more phenomenal is that a DEMOCRAT won over a neocon republican for the US House...by a 10 point margin.

[post="197569"][/post]​

I thought that district had been electing a democrat to the house for 2 or 3 elections now?

My Grandma lives in rural Kansas. She voted for Bush "because he prays." 🙄

Last I checked government was supposed to protect our right to freedom of religion, not decide what religion we should all be. I guess we were electing a Pope instead of a President... 🙄

 

[neverhome]

Btw, not that it matters, the only thing I respect about Kerry is that he volunteered for military service, regardless of what he did or didn't do during and after that service. There are many liberals, e.g. George McGovern, who are war heroes. Just don't be a total hypocrite by criticizing Bush for his service (and yes, learning to fly an F-102 involves some degree of risk, much more so than smoking pot in England) when you give Clinton a pass for his total lack of service, even his weaseling/lying his way out of any kind of service.

[post="197536"][/post]​

Don't forget that Kerry applied for a deferment which was denied before he volunteered.

 

[KCFlyer]

I thought that district had been electing a democrat to the house for 2 or 3 elections now?

My Grandma lives in rural Kansas. She voted for Bush "because he prays." 🙄

Last I checked government was supposed to protect our right to freedom of religion, not decide what religion we should all be. I guess we were electing a Pope instead of a President... 🙄

[post="197570"][/post]​

Indeed they have....but they "redistricted" the third congressional district since the last elections, with the goal of "redisctricting" Moore out of Congress. That's what makes it so phenomenal.

 

[whlinder]

Indeed they have....but they "redistricted" the third congressional district since the last elections, with the goal of "redisctricting" Moore out of Congress. That's what makes it so phenomenal.

[post="197576"][/post]​

Oh wow, didn't realize that. It still boggles my mind anytime a democrat wins anything in Kansas.

 

[AAmech]

Here's my prognosis for just how "lucky" we all are.

1. Terrorist attack on US soil before the end of 2006. All our efforts against Saddam and his non-threat will be for naught.

2. Reimplementation of the draft by the end of 2006. This would have happened regardless of who was elected.

3. Net increase in job losses over the next 4 years. Keep a close eye on that one, Ohioans...y'all have a lot of manufacturing just waiting to move to a maquiladora on the border.

4. Stock market will improve, what with all the "cost cutting" efforts by the corporations. Since the stock market is pretty much the sole "indicator" of "economic health", we'll all be told how good we've got it.

5. Crackdowns on organized protests - they will be considered to be "suspected terrorists", and with this being a "lame duck" second term, public outcry be damned. Goodbye First Ammendment.

6. More tax breaks. Bigger deficeit. Bankrupt country with 3 years after Bush leaves office.

7. Islamic leader will be elected the Iraqi president. Iraqi civil war. More fun in the desert for us.

8. Iran will increase it's efforts against America. No help from our alienated allies.

9. The supreme court will shift from a conservative court to a neoconservative court, which will blur the lines between the legislative and judicial branches and result in a court that tries to enact laws rather than interpret them.

10. Negotiations with North Korea and their nuclear program will stall.

11. And if we're really lucky - World War III.

I'm heading out this afternoon to find my "don't blame me, I voted for Kerry" bumper sticker. I remember seeing the "don't blame me, I voted for Bush" on the bumpers of cars back in 1992. Saw them all thru the Clinton presidency, a time of economic growth and low unemployment. I hope that my bumper sticker, like those in the 1990's can be proven wrong. It's the only hope I've got.

[post="197558"][/post]​

Come on KC!!! For a guy that usually has great posts your coming off completely irrational! The end of organized protests? Please!!

 

[KCFlyer]

Come on KC!!! For a guy that usually has great posts your coming off completely irrational! The end of organized protests? Please!!

[post="197616"][/post]​

Oddly enough, I am reading a book by Jim Hightower called "Let's Stop Beating Around the Bush". Over lunch, I read a chapter in the book that pretty much said what I did. Read this from the AFL-CIO web page about what is described in Hightowers book as "The Miami Model". If that doesn't scare you about how Bush and Ashcroft view their domestic "fight against terrorism", I don't know what will. Also, Hightower's book had a small blurb in it that $8.5 million used to pay for the police "protection" came from the $87 billion dollars Bush asked for (and got...the one Kerry "flipped flop" on and voted against) that was to be used in Iraq.

 

[Fly]

He doesn't allow people to protest at any public situation he's in now. He was at our country club last year for some Republican fund raiser and they tried to kick my kids out because they were wearing anti-Bush tshirts. Luckily, we belong (and he doesn't) so they couldn't make them leave. Regardless of how they feel, they are Americans and should be allowed to express themselves anyway they feel fit as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone elses freedoms. Bush et al do not understand that.


So what did their tshirts say, you ask? BUSH ARE A MORON! Seriously funny to watch armed agents try to chase down elementary children with BIG mouths....roflmao.

 

[firstamendment]

When the first subway, train, bus, and car bombs start exploding around our cities, we'll see how right the Bush "people" are. If you think Al Quaida wasn't waiting until AFTER the election to start their terror, you are as stupid as bush himself. IF and when all that happens, you arrogant, radical idiot Bush supporters will get exactly what you deserve.

Oh, btw, you will read it on the "internets"