Damn'em To Hell I'll Let'em Furlough
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jimntx
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Unfortunately, if you are a USAIR pilot, there appear to be a number of your fellow pilots at your company that would be more than happy to see you dumped so they could move up in seniority. One, at least, supposedly has inside information that all Boeing a/c will be grounded leaving only Airbus pilots with a job. He seems to relish this thought. So much for unionism.
boeing787 said:
Well that's easy for you to say when it's not your airline being shut down, but the message you want us to send is to YOUR management at another airline. We are not here to make sacrifices for YOU!
Tend to your own business and let us tend to ours.
boeing787 said:
We'll all see your resolve tested when your DB plans are cancelled and when your management can muster the courage to tell you where the one billion plus in additional cost cuts will be coming from to attract exit financing.I wish you the best of luck but mind your own business.
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boeing787 said:
Hey boeing 787
How much of a fight did you put up when they took away your duty rigs?
We still have ours, for now.
I'm not falling on the sword for you. Fight your own battles.
DCAflyer said:
How this proposal plays out will have repurcussions on the industry of the future. Shut down USAirways and you lose a job. Allow furloughs out of seniority and you lose a profession. Being a pilot will never be what it was if you allow this to happen.
Seniority is all the protection you will ever truly have. Don't let fear blind you to the importance of this fact.
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Diversion said:
Your statement is truly the crux of the discussion between unions and management in virtually every mature industry today.
Rather than the protection of seniority, consider the protection that is gained by the quality of ones' job performance. Seems to keep GE and many other companies profitable, workforces highly motivated and paid well.
AtlanticBeach said:
The problem is in a pilot profession, performance is highly subjective. Most pilots go through their careers with no accidents, incidents or violations. How can you rate one above the other when the factors that really matter are not quantifiable?
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Pacemaker said:
ALPA is irrelevent because deregulation finally killed its government sanctioned labor monopoly.
The guy on the street is willing to work for LCCs for less money than we make now. He's not going to stay home to protect our paycheck, nor should he. That's why "the piloting profession as we know it is dead".
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Diversion said:
That is a great question. In a profession where technical competence is roughly equivalent, intangible factors may be considered.
For example, people might choose a physician based on bedside manner, even though there are several doctors from whom to choose. Part of a pilot's responsibility might include ability and desire to communicate with passengers, thereby increasing the chance of repeat customers.
Last month, I was on a BWI-CLT 737 and Captain Clement was standing by 1L greeting all who boarded. He thanked each one of us for our business. 144 people will remember him and US Airways.
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:down: 23% cut you guys have to be nuts. shut it down .I took the lay off with
28 yrs .u employees have to stand up and say no .you should be fighting for a 5%
increase in pay.once they get the 23% in bk court they will go after 30 to 35 %
when the union start talking again.U cost me 90000.00 in sick pay and stock the first time around ,they wont get me for another penny this time.
time for you guys and gays to get a set of ba##s.
28 yrs .u employees have to stand up and say no .you should be fighting for a 5%
increase in pay.once they get the 23% in bk court they will go after 30 to 35 %
when the union start talking again.U cost me 90000.00 in sick pay and stock the first time around ,they wont get me for another penny this time.
time for you guys and gays to get a set of ba##s.
