Displaced F/As

[xoxo]

Does anyone know why they are closing off the quiet room now? Is it a liability thing for the airport or is it just because they dont want crew members to nap there at night? Do they realize that sometimes flights come in after midnight and a crew member cant get a room that late sometimes ..so they only nap there until their 530 am clt flight leaves for them to commute home? I really do see now that this company does not give a crap about its employees...I have felt like that for a while...but recently it is just getting worse. I am usually so positive and always seem to see the light at the end of the tunnel....well that tunnel just got longer and the light is burnt out. 😛h34r:

 

[Zarah]

The way I read the message was that the "quiet room" would be locked, not the crewroom. You should still be able to get on the computers.

Does anyone know why they are closing off the quiet room now? Is it a liability thing for the airport or is it just because they dont want crew members to nap there at night? Do they realize that sometimes flights come in after midnight and a crew member cant get a room that late sometimes ..so they only nap there until their 530 am clt flight leaves for them to commute home? I really do see now that this company does not give a crap about its employees...I have felt like that for a while...but recently it is just getting worse. I am usually so positive and always seem to see the light at the end of the tunnel....well that tunnel just got longer and the light is burnt out. 😛h34r:

Better look down that tunnel again, there is a light and it is on the front of a train heading straight for us!

heehee

 

[aredeeyou22]

"Did you hear they are going to start locking the door to the PHL crew room at night?"

Yes, very interesting. As a Capt I must check the WX and catcrew legalities for each flight. Company policy says I cannot use a public terminal, and it does not matter as those terminals cannot access the internet anyway.

I have two departures around that time on my next trip. I will plant myself in a seat on B6 and wait for the door to open. Otherwise my flight does not go. Maybe the Chief Pilot can stick around to let me have access to "my place of work?"

Film at eleven.

Greeter.

They are locking the "annex," not the actual crew room with the computers as I understand it.

Does anyone know why they are closing off the quiet room now? Is it a liability thing for the airport or is it just because they dont want crew members to nap there at night?

My guess? Someone did something to ruin the silent privilege. That's usually why they take things away from us (not that I ever used the room).... 😛h34r:

Last time I was in that room, there were so many people I was shocked.. (won't talk about the smell... ) I do feel badly for those that will not be able to stay in there for a few hours before their early flight....

 

[beachboy]

It has to do with the City of Philadelphia. It's a "zoning" violation and something to do with health code? At least thats what I was told. Also was told when the new crew room opens there will be security sweeps by an outside firm every night. Time for people to start looking for a crash pad. The cleaners won't even clean the quiet room because they always get yelled at for making noise. So they just let be be filthy.

 

[aredeeyou22]

It has to do with the City of Philadelphia. It's a "zoning" violation and something to do with health code? At least thats what I was told. Also was told when the new crew room opens there will be security sweeps by an outside firm every night. Time for people to start looking for a crash pad. The cleaners won't even clean the quiet room because they always get yelled at for making noise. So they just let be be filthy.

All of a sudden it is a health code violation? I don't buy it... somebody b***hed, or complained, or did something they shouldn't have... 😉

I bet the crews sleeping there wouldn't let the cleaners clean... hence the smell.. 😛h34r:

 

[BuffaloJoe]

All of a sudden it is a health code violation?

A health code violation in Philly? That's funny. I am surprised that the KFC that had the rats wasn't in Philly.

 

[aredeeyou22]

A health code violation in Philly? That's funny. I am surprised that the KFC that had the rats wasn't in Philly.

Good one! 🙄

 

[Mike]

Does anyone know why they are closing off the quiet room now? Is it a liability thing for the airport or is it just because they dont want crew members to nap there at night? Do they realize that sometimes flights come in after midnight and a crew member cant get a room that late sometimes ..so they only nap there until their 530 am clt flight leaves for them to commute home? I really do see now that this company does not give a crap about its employees...I have felt like that for a while...but recently it is just getting worse. I am usually so positive and always seem to see the light at the end of the tunnel....well that tunnel just got longer and the light is burnt out. 😛h34r:

How many F/A's will this leave in PIT after this displacement? Why don't they just kill the base and get it over with! This is a Sloooowwww death and hard to watch for sure.

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

The grass is not always greener.... I have a new hire friend based in IAD for UA and he never, ever flies. Ever. He says they hire alot of new hires (at the current slave wages)and then offer these large voluntary monthly leaves for the senior FA's (sort of like replacing a junior with a senior... saves $$ I guess...)... unfortunately, not enough people are taking the leaves to allow him to fly.....IAD rents are thru the roof, and food stamps are in his future.....Some of his class went to LAX and they have not flown since New Years. Just another perspective......

You know what - i dont think you know what you are talking about... and everything you just posted is a huge lie.. First off i am on reserve for UA at dulles and i have NEVER gotten less than 75 hours nor have i known ANY new hire who has gotten less than 75 hours, they pay us for 75 hours and trust me they work us, right now we are on critical coverage in dulles, as we have been several days this month and last and january. So either your friend is in lalalalala land or something b/c dulles is a base that they work... LAX not to sure but i know firsthand about dulles, and i will be the first to tell you that no one person at UAL sits on reserve for 3 months and doesnt work. doesnt happen that way, it is first in first out so everyone does their turn...

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

At the height of MDA, when the company decided within a week it wanted to move 70% of the division to DCA I remember there were dozens of F/As and pilots there every night. Some in the crew room and some would sleep on chairs in other terminals, or on the airplanes.

I doubt I'd have the patience to start over- gave it a shot, chose the wrong airline. My point was that you can be a new hire at one of the real airlines and be in a better position than you are here. You would have thousands under you in a year instead of less than a hundred after seven years. Pay would not really be that different. You would go to interesting places on real airplanes. I seriously doubt it would be as embarrassing to work at another carrier.

And oh yeah, lets say one of our Philly F/As went to UAL. They could drive to IAD with a four hour reserve call-out as opposed to our 90 minute callout. Not going to make it PHL to DCA in 90 minutes. EWR with Continental is an even shorter drive, they treat thier employees well and provide a premium product. My friend that went there just raves about it and can't understand why we are still here. It would be a tough choice, but for people who really love the job they are better off elsewhere. I'm just pointing out that theres nothing for these F/As to lose... they have no pay, base, or seniority worth anything now so why not if they want to still be a F/A? There's some really good F/As, US really doesn't deserve them.

Well i must say a four hour call out is nice and our CLLR reserve systam is nice too, where we find out the day before what we are doing for the next day. I do know people (alot) that commute from PHL to IAD and drive, also i know people from ewr and the nyc area that do it too. the 4 hour call out helps... That is good that your friend likes CAL but i think if it is who i am thinking he drinks a little toooo much koolaid. However they do offer a much better environment after working at US... I personally had to go elsewhere and couldnt take the drama anymore, and wanted to try my luck elsewhere, if it doesnt work here i am done... but i have to say if some gets displaced they dont bump others in a base, once you are there you are there and you have to transfer out or they have to close the base to boot you out. and that only fair. I hate US' policy on displacements. I also would check things out as far as bases etc., if i were going to switch airlines, at NWA i think they have bos, msp, dtw, not sure what else..CAL it is EWR, IAH, CLE and at UAL you have SEA,SFO,LAX,LAS,DEN,NRT,HKG,ORD,JFK,IAD,HNL,LHR,FRA,BOS and in general everyone is pleasant to work with. EMBFA, i would try and stick it out a little longer, Hopefully things will change with the new contract, like, no more bumpiing etc... better pay and work rules, work off others contract, compare and take no less, of course it isnt that easy but mgmt at USAir deserve a good dog fight and i would like no more than to see the bottom at USAir be able to reap those rewards for being screwed so hard.

 

[aredeeyou22]

You know what - i dont think you know what you are talking about... and everything you just posted is a huge lie.. First off i am on reserve for UA at dulles and i have NEVER gotten less than 75 hours nor have i known ANY new hire who has gotten less than 75 hours, they pay us for 75 hours and trust me they work us, right now we are on critical coverage in dulles, as we have been several days this month and last and january. So either your friend is in lalalalala land or something b/c dulles is a base that they work... LAX not to sure but i know firsthand about dulles, and i will be the first to tell you that no one person at UAL sits on reserve for 3 months and doesnt work. doesnt happen that way, it is first in first out so everyone does their turn...

Oh ok, that's good. He has not broken guarantee in Jan or Feb, cant speak for March...

 

[xoxo]

Received my official letter for possible displacement. "I regret to inform you......BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!! :down: " I am somewhere inbetween 50 to 80 from the bottom in PHL...so I am praying it misses me. The possible displacement goes back to Nov 8th class of 99 for PHL.

 

[Zarah]

Received my official letter for possible displacement. "I regret to inform you......BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!! :down: " I am somewhere inbetween 50 to 80 from the bottom in PHL...so I am praying it misses me. The possible displacement goes back to Nov 8th class of 99 for PHL.

Blah, got mine too!

 

[xoxo]

I just saw the list of f/a that are being displaced out of CLT and PIT. Most junior in CLT is Aug 99. Most junior in PIT 89..ouch. OK westies....are you paying attention? This is what you are looking forward to. When we have a united contract...you better hope the displaced section changes where as no one can be bumbed from a base.

 

[Zarah]

I just saw the list of f/a that are being displaced out of CLT and PIT. Most junior in CLT is Aug 99. Most junior in PIT 89..ouch. OK westies....are you paying attention? This is what you are looking forward to. When we have a united contract...you better hope the displaced section changes where as no one can be bumbed from a base.

Interesting. My form says "Since there are flight attendants junior to you in each base, you will be able to hold your first choice."

The choices listed are: BOS, CLT, DCA, LGA, PHL.

With a note that PIT is not included as your (my) seniority will not be able to hold that base.

According to your numbers CLT is not an option for me either.

I have PHL in as 1st choice, torn between LGA and DCA for my second choice, as the drive time is pretty much the same.

I am not against more senior people being able to bump and flush more junior people out, just sucks to be the junior one getting flushed. LOL.

Ahh well, all I can do is hope for the best.