Ethics Traning

Dog Wonder

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Now with all this talk about no money, everyone (I mean all of you) is going to get trained on ethics. Of course it is only an hour and if you were a top executive at Tyco or Enron you don't need to go. But, if you fly a plane, work on a plane, serve pretzels, take boarding passes, or dump a lav, you need a good talking to.

Of course you and the trainer will get paid. As well as the printer of those nice books everyone was sent.

How much money could be saved by killing this pig? 20 something thousand employees times 1 hour is a lot of money to spend so legal can cover it's considerable rear end.
 
This is *the* corporate standard at ANY larger corporation in America in 2004. Period. Whining about it is, frankly, ridiculous - comparable to being asked to wear a uniform, or a tie, or not being able to have purple hair as a flight attendance.
 
The fact that U management has the nerve to sit every employee down for an hour to talk about ethics is a joke as events of the last few years clearly show that U's management cared nothing about ethics when it came to stealing from employees, but instead choose to paint every non management employee a thief that would take bribes from pax and and most certainly has a garage full of batterys that they have stolen from their employer.

I'm surprised that the 1-800 number given out to engourage employees to turn in their fellow workers isn't jammed with calls due to the lack of ethics of senior management.

I find this entire charade to be an insult to every hard working employee of the airline.

To have to sit by and watch the so called leaders of the airline take millions of dollars in cash and stock options that they do not deserve for so many reasons, while being forced to sit down for a hour and be told that if you aren't stealing from us , you know who is, and if you have any "ethics" you will turn them in, is sickening.



linemech
 
I second what linemech says, the problems with "U" is not pilfering by employees by any means. What is management trying to do, a slight of hand trick, don't look at us running the company but look at your fellow employees?


ETHICS BEGINS AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN
 
If they had ethics they would have honored all our contracts as written, not stolen the airbus work, not furlough pilots and F/As wrong and several other hundred grievances and unjustified terminations.
 
sounds like the kremlin is looking for reasons to fire people.....good luck usair LABOR, the bean counters are at it again!
 
USHenry you miss the point. The original post wasn't about the ethics policy itself (onerous as it is). It is about a company looking to slash costs wasting well over half a million dollars on an unneccesary training program. The sole purpose of this training is corporate CYA.

Everyone already got the ethics policy book. Why rehash it at this expense?
 
delldude said:
HEY DAVE...don't you think that 4.5 million parachute is stealing???
NAW.....EVERYBODY DOES IT
It WASN'T stealing, it was in his contract. Honest people honor contracts, right? Even if it hurts. We work (or worked) for such an honest outfit that they would think to not allow our good friend Dave Siegel to be tossed out on the street with no means to support his family! Geesh, could you imagine Siegel maybe having to sell his house and move into a trailer or sell the Beamer (or whatever else he drives) for a Ford Escort? Think of how degrading it would be.....even as our former executive, doesn't he deserve better than that?!

Let's just ask the BOD about honoring contracts, since they seem to when it comes to one of them. Doing little dances with our unions to dishonor the pay rates, no furlough clauses, benefits and vacations haven't done a damn thing to help the company.

Did anyone else hear the report on NPR yesterday morning about US Airways vs SWA in PHL? It was hilarious....they had a monkey from marketing talking about how US Airways had decided to lower fares because they love their customers so much. BULLS-H-T! It's because you have no choice now. It takes someone with about two weeks experience playing Airline Tycoon to figure out that the soak-em business fares are the problem. Then, the marketing guy was saying how our customers would stay loyal because we had better service....yep, better service, a whole 8 seats in FC now. Good luck getting those. I think our customers will be as loyal as they were in BWI. What was our latest market share in that town?

Happy times in US Airways land.....it seems like the corporate world is betting on Banrupcy Part II...the Liquidation, coming to a theater near you this summer.

Laid off and p1ssed off

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I think ethics training is a waste for anyone other than management. It doesn't matter what your line of work is. The higher up you go in a company, the more you need to be reminded of ethical behavior, because someone in a higher position tends to be a decision maker for many employees, and the possibility of abusing power is in a direct proportion to where you are on the corporate food chain.

I should say corporate ethics, because personal ethics are important, too, but corporate ethics got US into this mess. It's like a really sticky spider web, and the employees are the flies.
 

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