Every man has his price.

[amtide]

I will not put Bob integrity in doubt at this time, may be that is the way he can see an improvement for us using the tools available now. Bob, TWU is not the solution is the problem. It is easier to change the union that get TWU to change in a way that better serve us. Good luck for all of us in this turbulent journey.

 

[unionguy1]

Bob,

I'll tell you what was gotten from the 1998-2000 drive and the 2003-4 drive from my point of view. First, for the first time in the history of the twu at AA the contract in 2001 contained an article covering Retirement which, if I'm not mistaken, was not in the contract before then, but kept as an AA Policy and Procedures footnote. Maybe I am mistaken, but perhaps you can ask King Ed Koziatek why they decided to do that in 2001. My belief, and that of many others is just that, the mighty twu knew their game in that regard was over!(Just think what would have happened if our retirement were still just AA Policy going into Bankruptcy, Bob. How soon you discount what was accomplished!) The 98-2000 drive also got us the famous "Separate Locals"! I see you mentioned a piece of that regarding how many Fleet Service clerks "Can" sit and vote on Mechanic & Related Negotiations. Comically enough you only mention that in print in your own defense now. Why didn't you mention that up front and let all the membership know. I suggested that to some DFW Bootlickin Local folks in front of negotiations, but they, like you, were mute on that topic! Wonder why, Bob, any thoughts why everyone waited till it was all over?

The 2003-4 drive netted us our first filing for an AMFA representation challenge election at the NMB during my years at AA and I am proud of everyone that signed a card to that effort. My personal efforts during that drive resulted in my becoming the highest paid AMT at AA and probably helped the company/twu fire me unlawfully, according to the arbitrator. I didn't see you nor anyone else getting "Permanently Banned For Life" by the twu, Bob. Wonder why?

I remember back in '99 or so you and some forward thinkin JFK folks attempted to cut a deal with then twu Prez. Sunny Hall. Remember that one Bob? I do, but let us stick with today. I don't have the answers that you seem to be gifted with, Bob, but I am still in awe at what I just read in your most recent letter!!! I still try to help/represent fellow employees, but I guess I just don't need the twu title, and barely need the twu to even administrate resultant grievances. Here's to your new career, Bob.

Cheers,

Dan Cunningham

Good read Dan. You have persevered through many obstacles. I remember when B. Gless and D. Vide. were outspoken. Jimmy L. brought them on board the International train to shut them up. Let's see if this is where Bob ends up. I still think Bob is a good union brother. Hope he does not bite into Jimmy L's dog biscuit.

 

[Overspeed]

Well if you actually read what I've written then you would see that IMO we are still dominated by fleet locals (and Tulsa) and that the seperate locals did not fix anything.

The "Owens agenda"? Now you sound like the people you say you are opposed to. I'd certainly like to know exactly what those who throw that around mean by that.

I dont see where I'm saying anything different than I have been since I took office 4 years ago. The organization is screwed up and we need change. The IAC has the authority to change the Union and the membership has the authority to change unions. Sounds the same but its two different things.

I dont recall Steve Luis pushing for the increased Line premium before the company threw it on the table, I do recall him pushing for a $5/hr CC Premium though.

As far as the comments on my emotiional state and satiability I think you are the one that needs to learn to put emotions in check. What I'm trying to do is consistant with what I've been saying for the last four years and no I'm not satisfied with this agreement but we've been told that 74% of your coworkers voted for it.

Odie;
As far as a timeline those involved are still discussing it, it may very well go nowhere but we have an obligation to try something. Conventions provide very limited opportunity for change, if there is any chance at implimenting change at the Convention the chips have to be in place long before the Convention actually takes place. At the last Convention we had a whole slew of Timely resolutions, Recall, election of Division directors, electronic ballotting,,, they blocked them from even going to the floor.

Sure we could throw ourselves on our swords and resign without exhausting every idea, the ATD would simply love that, in fact Gillespie said as much two weeks ago when he accused me of posting what Lee Sehamm was writing under my name (???), peppered with the language that Little cited as being so offensive (its only offensive when they dont use it I guess) but thats not the message I've been getting from the guys I represent. Maybe it would make a good story for Dave to use in Tulsa but I think its been made pretty clear that the majority in Tulsa (not the 26%) could care less what happens out on the line.

I totally agree with TWU Informer Bob, get off the fence. Stop trying to be political and then say you are not. You are afraid ti give up the $22K the TWU Local 562 folks so graciously pay you and your coveted club of TWU President followers of Ruiz, Rojas, Peterson, and Pike.

Come out of the closet and fight for what you say you believe. Dave and Dan Cunningham need you to help the AMFA/AMP cause. Your credibility as a leader is being tested right now. You fired off an expletive laced tirade and Little spanked you and put you back behind the TWU party line. Show us where you stand. In 2008 you were giddy about a card drive but now that you are getting paid $22K plus expenses, work whenever you want, and get to fly around on A12s playing line AMT messiah with your apostles John (Ruiz), Jorge, Gary, and Larry you have no balls.

Come on Bob, stand with Dave, Dan, Ken, Odie, and all the other pro AMFA guys. Say it Bob. SAY IT! "I am and have always been and AMFA guy." SAY IT!!!!

 

[RV4]

I totally agree with TWU Informer Bob, get off the fence. Stop trying to be political and then say you are not. You are afraid ti give up the $22K the TWU Local 562 folks so graciously pay you and your coveted club of TWU President followers of Ruiz, Rojas, Peterson, and Pike.

Come out of the closet and fight for what you say you believe. Dave and Dan Cunningham need you to help the AMFA/AMP cause. Your credibility as a leader is being tested right now. You fired off an expletive laced tirade and Little spanked you and put you back behind the TWU party line. Show us where you stand. In 2008 you were giddy about a card drive but now that you are getting paid $22K plus expenses, work whenever you want, and get to fly around on A12s playing line AMT messiah with your apostles John (Ruiz), Jorge, Gary, and Larry you have no balls.

Come on Bob, stand with Dave, Dan, Ken, Odie, and all the other pro AMFA guys. Say it Bob. SAY IT! "I am and have always been and AMFA guy." SAY IT!!!!

You should crawl back under your fear rock and leave this to us.

You are not helping either side by being the antogonist that fears his own shadow more than others have ever known.

What the hell do you know about taking a stand anyway?

 

[RV4]

DAN CUNNINGHAM

I have seniority on you and wish to present a grievance. I want to be expelled from the TWU for life too and I was bypassed in violation of the TWU Constitution.

 

[Overspeed]

You should crawl back under your fear rock and leave this to us.

You are not helping either side by being the antogonist that fears his own shadow more than others have ever known.

What the hell do you know about taking a stand anyway?

I have taken a stand. I am backing the TWU and I have stated that many times.

 

[AC Tynker]

DAN CUNNINGHAM

I have seniority on you and wish to present a grievance. I want to be expelled from the TWU for life too and I was bypassed in violation of the TWU Constitution.

That's real admirable of you RV4. I take it you are anti-TWU so in the anti-TWU circle I guess it is something to be proud of to be banned for life ? You want to use your seniority to take his glory that HE evidently put a lot of effort into trying to wage a representation drive to get to where he is at while you just want to use your time. Some of you people make me laugh A LOT!

Although I don't support AMFA there are people that strive tirelessly to get the representation and put their job on the line evidently and then there is you..Pitiful and funny all at the same time, you should be embarrassed because of your post RV4.

 

[AA89]

I have taken a stand. I am backing the TWU and I have stated that many times.

Staying with the TWU? That's not a stand. That's a bend over...

 

[Rogallo]

Come out of the closet and fight for what you say you believe.

Come out from behind your alias.
"Till then you have absolutely no credibility.....zilch.....zero.....nada...!!!

 

[Frank Szabo]

I will not put Bob integrity in doubt at this time, ...

Opinion:

Bob was removed from the 562 presidency because he preferred allegiance to his people over allegiance to the twu and little jimmy. Now, after a time of, in effect standing in the corner, he's not being removed but is keeping his job as local prez. That, to me, speaks volumes.

What changed? Certainly not the international.

 

[AC Tynker]

Come out from behind your alias.
"Till then you have absolutely no credibility.....zilch.....zero.....nada...!!!

Oh Geez Rogallo, the alias movement has sucked you in too? Just remember when you throw your real name out there and where you work (that seems to be the trend on here anyway) anything you type on here that violates Company Rules and Regulations you can and most likely will be held accountable. As much of a people person that you seem to be on here I can see you crossing that line if you already haven't and I just missed it.

 

[Rogallo]

Never asked anyone to throw his/her real name out there. Just saying you ain't gonna get any respect or credability as long as your posting under an alias, (including myself). I'm what ya call a #### stirrer!!

 

[AC Tynker]

Never asked anyone to throw his/her real name out there. Just saying you ain't gonna get any respect or credability as long as your posting under an alias, (including myself). I'm what ya call a #### stirrer!!

lol, understood. My bad.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

People like Ruiz that was in your video is your peer? I may not agree with you on most everything but what does that guy bring to your gang? All he said in the video was that the TA was a turd sandwich deluxe. Did that analogy work with anyone? Bob at least coach your guys a little better.

Please DON"T put JR Ruiz in the group of AMFA supporters who have attempted to rid AA of The TWU, He is NOT he was asked by me several times along with other memebers of his local E-board such as Flip, Chris O. to sing AMFA cards and they would not. He did how ever support the AMFA guys at NWA. They have been supporters of the TWU all along. JR is from what I hear now along with his current E-board supporting the IBT. JR. is a union guy who wants whats best for his station not whats best for all. Just my opinion. His heart is in the right place as far as being a union member. BUT NOT an AMFA supporter.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

I totally agree with TWU Informer Bob, get off the fence. Stop trying to be political and then say you are not. You are afraid ti give up the $22K the TWU Local 562 folks so graciously pay you and your coveted club of TWU President followers of Ruiz, Rojas, Peterson, and Pike.

Come out of the closet and fight for what you say you believe. Dave and Dan Cunningham need you to help the AMFA/AMP cause. Your credibility as a leader is being tested right now. You fired off an expletive laced tirade and Little spanked you and put you back behind the TWU party line. Show us where you stand. In 2008 you were giddy about a card drive but now that you are getting paid $22K plus expenses, work whenever you want, and get to fly around on A12s playing line AMT messiah with your apostles John (Ruiz), Jorge, Gary, and Larry you have no balls.

Come on Bob, stand with Dave, Dan, Ken, Odie, and all the other pro AMFA guys. Say it Bob. SAY IT! "I am and have always been and AMFA guy." SAY IT!!!!

Again DON"T put Jorge in as a AMFA supporter because he is NOT. Him and his Eboard members will not sign AMFA cards. Most of his stewards have not either, I am not sure if he told them not too, but it seems he has or someone on the MIA eboard did.

I am NOT sure where he stands.