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[av8trxx]

We DID inform the Captain, he knew very well what was going on.

[post="232597"][/post]​

If that's the case, he's probably one of the bad apples that earned the APA the title AArogant Phallus Association. Don't stand for that crAAp. This is truly a safety of flight issue. Take matters into your own hands, per the FM1 and call a crew meal break. Call your supervisor too. If it causes a delay, so what. Take what Bob said to heart "Could you imagine what this would sound like in arbitration? That the company was requiring you to work 14 hours without a meal!"

 

[Bob Owens]

You would think people trained to handle any type of emergency from hijacking to heart attract from fire and smoke to ditching in the water. They would have more sense, then they seem to.

What f/a is not smart enough to stop on a connection and get something to eat? What f/a who knows there is no food for them on board is not smart enough to carry something's in there bag? Even if it is snack chips soup or candy bars. There is no excuse for f/as to be in such a situation that they are hungry and have nothing to eat.

I bring food I make and freeze for the first day of a trip. I have a stash of candy bars just in case in my luggage. A couple small cans of soup, and a can of chips. If on a connection short or long, I stop and get food to go. You can get a sandwich on the run and not be more than a few steps behind the rest of the crew.

I have no sympathy for the people who whine about not eating. You are an adult act like one and be prepared.

[post="232716"][/post]​

A stash of Candy bars and snack chips? So you are recommending a diet of sugar and salt as a way of maintaining a Flight Attendants health?

 

[mjk]

A stash of Candy bars and snack chips? So you are recommending a diet of sugar and salt as a way of maintaining a Flight Attendants health?

[post="232801"][/post]​

Well, he is a flight attendant. 🙄

Don't forget what he mentioned about getting a sandwich on the way, or are those not healthy either? You forgot about the soup, too.

I can understand being hungry after a long day, but hey, APFA allowed that to be one of their cost savings items.

Mikey's dealt with the problem by being creative, nothing wrong with that.

 

[FA Mikey]

A stash of Candy bars and snack chips? So you are recommending a diet of sugar and salt as a way of maintaining a Flight Attendants health?

[post="232801"][/post]​

If its a choice of eating that or nothing. Which is better? I don't go hungry, because I bring my own stuff to eat. Its amazing how many people never think to do something so simple. I freeze food and heat it up later in the day.

I have a lunch tote that I can keep other perishable and non perishable food in. I have a stash of candy and other meal bars and a small can of soup, all for just in case. A flight runs over, or in a hotel late at night and hungry. I don't have to go without or order and wait for something from room service. How hard for some people is that to figure out?

I suggest f/as plan accordingly. We all know there is no food. Just like there was not to many years ago. And stop complaining believing someone other than themselves is responsible for there well being.

 

[MiAAmi]

You would think people trained to handle any type of emergency from hijacking to heart attract from fire and smoke to ditching in the water. They would have more sense, then they seem to.

What f/a is not smart enough to stop on a connection and get something to eat? What f/a who knows there is no food for them on board is not smart enough to carry something's in there bag? Even if it is snack chips soup or candy bars. There is no excuse for f/as to be in such a situation that they are hungry and have nothing to eat.

I bring food I make and freeze for the first day of a trip. I have a stash of candy bars just in case in my luggage. A couple small cans of soup, and a can of chips. If on a connection short or long, I stop and get food to go. You can get a sandwich on the run and not be more than a few steps behind the rest of the crew.

I have no sympathy for the people who whine about not eating. You are an adult act like one and be prepared.

[post="232716"][/post]​

Your absolutely right! I could care less if I take a delay because I had to get something to eat. Its been 2 years now without crew meals whats the big deal about planning ahead or making time for yourself to eat.

 

[flydcoop]

F/A Mikey,

That's easy to say if you live in your base city.

I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just giving you the other side of the coin.

What about commuting? Especially those who do not commute by choice...Will the TSA allow a Frigidare through security if you fly high-time? Yes, I'm being mischevious but there is an element of truth there.

If I was still based at MIA, there would be no problem food-wise. Hell, for the short time we had crew meals, I had to consult astrological charts to predict them (always at the wrong time). I don't care about crew meals, just give me time to run and grab something to eat onboard.

Most of the domestic lines are a 4 hour-plus sit (plenty of time to eat) or a Midwest 42 minutes (12 minutes minus the required 30 minutes onboard, same A/C). This can work in "spoke" cities but not hubs.

If you are lucky, you arrive early, the gate is available and there aren't any aisle chairs (I've never hated those so much in my life, this is not who I am as a person)...you can possibly sneak off for a hot minute and grab something.

For the record, I carry Luna Bars and Quaker Instant Oatmeal in my bag...sometimes you want something hot, meaty, and dead...no matter how processed it is.

I don't view airports as harbingers of the Zone or South Beach Diet...sometimes I just want "real" food and Taco Bell or Wendy's in DFW can satisfy that. 😛

Lotsa Love,

Coop

 

[AAStew]

If its a choice of eating that or nothing. Which is better? I don't go hungry, because I bring my own stuff to eat. Its amazing how many people never think to do something so simple. I freeze food and heat it up later in the day.

Mike
Coop is right, I commute and bring Oatmeal Bars, Zone Bars and Instant Oatmeal for sustenance. But after eating this straight for 4 days, you can run out. I bring a cooler when I can plan ahead, but being on reserve in a commuter city at Christmas just doesn't allow for these niceties.
On another note Mike, I agree with you most of the time, but I really think you like to stir the pot at others. Unity remember?

 

[operaations]

If its a choice of eating that or nothing. Which is better? I don't go hungry, because I bring my own stuff to eat. Its amazing how many people never think to do something so simple. I freeze food and heat it up later in the day.

Mike
Coop is right, I commute and bring Oatmeal Bars, Zone Bars and Instant Oatmeal for sustenance. But after eating this straight for 4 days, you can run out. I bring a cooler when I can plan ahead, but being on reserve in a commuter city at Christmas just doesn't allow for these niceties.
On another note Mike, I agree with you most of the time, but I really think you like to stir the pot at others. Unity remember?

[post="233176"][/post]​

Why would you throw UNITY in Mike's face just because he does not agree with you. To me he sounds like a flight attendant prepared for the worse. Maybe some people should take note from him. Unite be prepared for everything and anything

 

[AAStew]

OperAAtions.
It wasn't meant as an attack on Mike, but you have to be able to see all sides of the picture, n;est-ce pas?
And the Unity part, well AA is the all time expert at pitting workgroup against workgroup and f/a against f/a. So (please don't take this as an attack) but come on, we do have to stick together.

 

[MiAAmi]

I fly with plenty of commuters that give themselves the time to get something to eat prior to their sign in. As a crew, we all have the same amount of time between flights to get something to eat. International f/as have to clear customs between flights and still manage to get something to eat before their next flight. Common Sense should be used at some point during your sequence. I have yet to hear of anyone getting in trouble for causing a delay because they stopped and grabbed something to eat prior to departure. If it seems that your captain doesn't care whether you have eaten or not, maybe its because he thinks your an adult and should be able to take care of yourself.

 

[operaations]

I fly with plenty of commuters that give themselves the time to get something to eat prior to their sign in. As a crew, we all have the same amount of time between flights to get something to eat. International f/as have to clear customs between flights and still manage to get something to eat before their next flight. Common Sense should be used at some point during your sequence. I have yet to hear of anyone getting in trouble for causing a delay because they stopped and grabbed something to eat prior to departure. If it seems that your captain doesn't care whether you have eaten or not, maybe its because he thinks your an adult and should be able to take care of yourself.

[post="233221"][/post]​

well put MiAAmi.....why dont we put this topic to bed and move onOh Yeah AASTEW we should unite together as a company not Flight Attendants agains Management or Pilots against management or any workgroup against anyone. You seem to be an expert on unity. Maybe try to work out a fair plan for everyone and we can all UNITE

 

[Wretched Wrench]

........You seem to be an expert on unity. ....

[post="233232"][/post]​

Be nice.

It adds credibility to your posts, rather than detracting.

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[SSConcorde35]

Going 14 hrs with a little bit of salad is "patently unreasonable".

But if you allow it to happen then you deserve what you get.

If I were in your place (I'm not a flight attendant, I'm a mechanic) I would have informed the Captain what was going on. It has been my experience that most Captains take the fact that they are responsible for the well being of all those they carry seriously. More than likely, despite what some say, he would have responded positively. If not then tell him that you and the other flight attendants had to eat, and simply go and do it at the most expediant pace you could. Choose the closet source of acceptable food that can provide you the quickest service, eat it and return right away to your post. If they get a delay, so what? As long as you make every effort to minimize the delay, short of exposing yourself to harm, then you have acted reasonably. Do you think the flight would leave for a 14 hour trip without a meal for the passengers and cockpit crew?

Could you imagine what this would sound like in arbitration? That the company was requiring you to work 14 hours without a meal!
Okay maybe they dont have to provide you with a meal but if you're on a 5 day trip, what are you supposed to do pack your carry on with groceries? Even if you could, would it be an adequate diet?

[post="232399"][/post]​

lets get something straight..the re(destructive) agreement with the flight attendant contract was shoved down our throats and the VOTE was NO! moving on..its up to the f/a (us) to eat when we are hungry..so what if the flight is delayed..and if any agent give u grief..just walk off the damn plane!! enough of us have to do this when we are passing out from hunger..this company does not care about ANY of us..the flight crew have a unique situation..we're at 36k feet and theres no where to pull over and get something for us to eat..think about it.. happy new year

 

[L1011Ret]

I beg to differ, in Court it was readily apparant that JW and APFA had a whole menu of options to chose from for concessions. He and APFA chose the no meals along with the underfly and no furlough pay for F/As. This was testified to by both JW and the AA Director of labor relations. Even the Judge was a bit distressed with the no furlough pay. So nothing was shoved down anybody's throat, it was APFA choices.

 

[AAStew]

well put MiAAmi.....why dont we put this topic to bed and move onOh Yeah AASTEW we should unite together as a company not Flight Attendants agains Management or Pilots against management or any workgroup against anyone. You seem to be an expert on unity. Maybe try to work out a fair plan for everyone and we can all UNITE

[post="233232"][/post]​

Heavy sigh....
You know there really are times when some things are impossible to accomplish. Especially this past week at JFK with all the major delays we took because of the rampers situation. You must know about that, right operaations? It helps to be empathetic occasionally, I reaslly don't understand your snipe about unity, I understand we all have our crosses to bear at work, and I can understand the crap you guys go thru, but please see our situation also.