Fa Shortage For The Holidays?

[PSA1979]

Pitbull,
I counted the sick calls on Option 18, all bases. That is about as accurate as it gets for reserves anyway. And one question "why do you hate me so much?' When I was in the Union I treated you with respect and never once called you names. I can't believe you can represent the f/a's at this company with such a small minded hateful attitude. I never called you a liar and will not stoop to your level!Grow Up and act like an adult if that is even possible for you!

Oh, and moderator, if you delete this, then you need to go back to all of Pitbull's and delete her name calling!

 

[PITbull]

Pitbull,
I counted the sick calls on Option 18, all bases. That is about as accurate as it gets for reserves anyway. And one question "why do you hate me so much?' When I was in the Union I treated you with respect and never once called you names. I can't believe you can represent the f/a's at this company with such a small minded hateful attitude. I never called you a liar and will not stoop to your level!Grow Up and act like an adult if that is even possible for you!

Oh, and moderator, if you delete this, then you need to go back to all of Pitbull's and delete her name calling!

Stop critizing our group. Now you know why you did not get relected. I don't want to get indignant here, but I most certainly can. I don't hate you, so don't get ridiculous. I am sick to death of the critisizm of our group. We have become our worst enemy. If we don't believe and value ourselves, no one else will. You are portraying f/as in a "bad light", and I don't like it, and won't sit idley by either.

I got my stats from Crew Sched. Supervisors every single day I called in to see where we were. And I offered assistance to eleviate some of the problems. I don't think you did that, so you can count what you like on option 18, but it only proves to me that you can count.

 

[PITbull]

Bob,

On holidays when the co. is in assignment mode, all f/as get called, so just "shut up"!

Oh, I forgot, this is a public board and you can, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....

I'm over you Bob, and will not respond to your posts again because you are just trying to cause more trouble and distain among the U employees for our group. You will not get me to give you the "star" role on this Forum.

We have just parted company.

 

[cavalier]

Pitbull,
I counted the sick calls on Option 18, all bases. That is about as accurate as it gets for reserves anyway. And one question "why do you hate me so much?' When I was in the Union I treated you with respect and never once called you names. I can't believe you can represent the f/a's at this company with such a small minded hateful attitude. I never called you a liar and will not stoop to your level!Grow Up and act like an adult if that is even possible for you!

Oh, and moderator, if you delete this, then you need to go back to all of Pitbull's and delete her name calling!

Pitbull comes across strong because the truth is hard hitting. Lies, no lies here. Just the hard hitting and sickening facts which seem to be lies to the ones dramatized by our ruthless management team. Funny how this is playing out. Management's doing totally and completely and yet we have posters blaming people who simply point out the wrongs being done when they and not the root cause, when in fact it is management’s doing alone. The posters showing the injustices being committed are getting the blame. Management has such posters right where they want them! At this rate we might as well just bend over because management will have it way seeing everyone is divided. Looking at this threat spells victory for management. Wake up people!

 

[PSA1979]

Pit
You would think that I ran against you instead of Mollie. It was over a year ago and I have gotten past it, why can't you. You are right I criticize our group because there are so many that put us in a bad light. I am a good employee, have never gotten in big trouble, come to work when I am supposed to and do not abuse sick leave or personal days. I expect everyone else to tow the line also. I have no simpathy for abusers. They only make it harder for me and the other 90% of us who do their job. I don't have a bad attitude and I love my job. Why aren't you helping us 90%er's to keep it? We are US Airways and our customers know it, just ask Piney!!

I didn't get a call from the company over the holidays? How could I be counted in your total?

Piney,
Pit only quotes what fits her opinion, she conviently leaves out the whole truth!

 

[PITbull]

PSA,

I will indulge you one last time. You didn't get called because the call list didn't go that far up. Those who answered the phone, had to fly. I can check this, but did you make yourself available on xmas day for crew sched and our company since you think you are so wonderful? Did you fly that day? Easy to cast stones. Reasons for sick calls:

1. National Security Orange alert
2. Illnesses, ligitimate
3. Poor morale

The morale issue has permeated into your 90% of good employees. Difference they don't call you to talk about it nor do they call you regarding the fear to fly during these types of National security alerts.

So, your only basis of information..... option 18.

 

[Todd B]

:cop: Lets avoid name-calling.

 

[PSA1979]

You are right for I do not have any delusions of grandeur! If they had called, who knows what I would have done. But I can tell you one thing Code Orange is not a reason to not come to work. If it was, we should have shut down 5 times since 9/11 and all the Police Officers, fire fighters, nurses, doctors etc.. should have stayed home too. We have always had a job that has had potential to be dangerous. If I was too scared to come to work, I would be looking in another field!

 

[PITbull]

PSA,

And the f/as are.

 

[Whatnow?]

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Pitbull comes across strong because the truth is hard hitting. Lies, no lies here. Just the hard hitting and sickening facts which seem to be lies to the ones dramatized by our ruthless management team. Funny how this is playing out. Management's doing totally and completely and yet we have posters blaming people who simply point out the wrongs being done when they and not the root cause, when in fact it is management’s doing alone. The posters showing the injustices being committed are getting the blame. Management has such posters right where they want them! At this rate we might as well just bend over because management will have it way seeing everyone is divided. Looking at this threat spells victory for management. Wake up people!

Hate to say it...but oh so true! Divide and conquer, has always worked! Mgmnt has made these conditions so deplorable for this working group that everybody is rebelling. Even the good ones, will soon be dragged into this arena, there really cannot be 1 F/A out there who is COMPLETELY happy with what's going on right now. I have seen the most professional F/A's basically throw their arms up in the air lately, and just plain give up! It's a terrible situation all around, and yes, the morale is a MAJOR issue! It's a constant bashing that has REALLY got to stop! For all of you posters on here who aren't F/A's, you will NEVER really know what it's like to walk in a F/A's shoes. So talk the big talk, you just don't know what F/A's go through and how they are treated lately. I'm SURE the same would be true for ALL departments at this company right now, but it seems like EVERYBODY else is an expert in the F/A arena! This company is doing EXACTLY what they set out to do....weed out the one's that have had enough!

 

[PITbull]

PSA,

Be careful what info you give out to "outsiders" who set out to hurt our group to promote their own selfish agenda. Specifically those who demand more for less, at the expense of the employees, as many as they can get rid of or take out of their pay checks.

Took me a while to find the "Trojan", but I did.

 

[MarkMyWords]

Wow.....looks like I missed one heck of a fight! Dang!

Whatnow - It is that type of ENTITLEMENT attitude that has lead to an attendance problem. Many people believe that they have earned this sick time and can take the time as they see fit. Kind of like additional vacation time. That is not the purpose of a sick bank. I will ask you and PitBull again, how many f/a's have less the 100 hours in their sick bank? How many uder 200? My sources assure me that they numbers of people with depleeted sick banks far out ranks the numbers with ample ones. As an example. I know 2 F/A's. Both are excellent employees WHEN they come to work. Susan has always looked at her sick bank as extra vacation time and Molly only used hers when it was a legitimate sick call. Susan has 92 hours of sick time, Molly has 700. Susan and Molly were hired in the same class, both do not have children or long term health issues. The bottomline is Susan loves to take time off in the summer to go to the beach and BBQ's. Time off in Dec to go to Christmas parties (with or without pianists 🙄 ). She has to have Valentines day off so spend with her sweety of the moment. Molly trudges through and works when she is supposed to holidays or not. Schedules her time off to do the things she likes and has to pass on a few parties once in a while because it doesn't fit into her work schedule. That is life. Both are great employees when they come to work, but you just can't seem to get Susan to come to work. What would you do about the Susans? The pay penalty is not that answer, I have said that from the start.

PitBull -

I can not believe you have the ovaries to come on here and say that the movement of the National Security Level could be partly blamed for the increase in sick calls. Bull Feathers! That is just another excuse that SOME will use to get out of coming to work. I am not saying that SOME people may not get a little sppoked by the increase in security awareness, but the last time the level was increased sick calls did not increase 2-3 times the normal daily rate and only for 3 days. Give me a break. Keep digging....you are making an awefully big hole for yourself.

 

[AOG-N-IT]

Hmmm,

Without isolating the F/A's or the Flight Department for that matter...I have a real issue with those whom think they have a special strain of "Entitlement" around here.

I know from working the Maintenance side of operations what a problem Holiday Flu can cause...this is far from fair to your co-workers or those whom we are paid to fly.

I know in my small corner of the U world what kinda mess 1 or 2 people with an inflated sense of self-worth and entitlement can cause......being it's always the same few that create havoc for others with a sense of duty and personal pride.

People ....We all have our beef with the company in one form or another , but to wage your self-serving crusade or self-imposed holiday schedule at the expense of others , is to say the very least wrong !!!

IIRC....the application for employment stated the requirement to work whatever schedule you are assigned . I do it ...so can you !!! I had my first Christmas Eve off in over ten years....and I was thrilled that my schedule allowed this. However the next 5 years assuming we have no heavy handed changes will put me working all the major holidays . Being a person whom honors my obligations and appreciates his job....I will do so baring death or severe illness. I have to live with my own sense of right and wrong....and its also a matter of integrity.

Many here , myself included have questioned our leaderships integrity on a few occassions ....but when I do it....it's not from the false sense of security of living in a glass house.

Life makes for some simple choices at times. If you choose a business that operates 365 days a year...24 hours a day...expect to have less than a bankers lifestyle. If you can't come to terms with the jobs scope? Step to the side and make room for those who can.....Plenty of folks are willing to take your place !!!

 

[UseYourHead]

Wow.....looks like I missed one heck of a fight! Dang!

Whatnow - It is that type of ENTITLEMENT attitude that has lead to an attendance problem. Many people believe that they have earned this sick time and can take the time as they see fit. Kind of like additional vacation time. That is not the purpose of a sick bank.

MMW,

I agree with you that this attitude is a big part of the sick problem, it is with pilots too.

If you do not get sick all year, or have any medical expenses, do you have a bank of unused sick benefits? And we pay significantly for these "benefits".

Sick time is no different. You accrue this benefit to be used if you are sick, you don't own it, and it is not bank time...nor is it an entitlement.

Generally speaking, this concept is a highly debated subject out on the line. I know most people I float this idea to, vigorously debate; however, in the end they agree it is morally wrong to burn time with the intention of "using my sick bank" before retirement for example.

Having said that, would it be a good idea to offer incentives for attendance, maybe retires could be awarded a "bonus" when they retire by having a large sick bank?

It seems like it would be good business to me.

But then, this idea is a universe away from employees that are say 45 years old and have less than 100 hours of sick time. Although some people experience medical problems resulting in depletion of their sick bank, for many it is a way of padding each month by working less. I see this behavior in the pilot ranks as well.

The problem is, if they get sick with a major illness, they have no sick bank. That is a BIG problem for folks who believe that the previously described MO is a good idea.
I recently donated a vacation day to someone who had 0 sick bank and heart attack....

Burning sick time when you are fit for duty is stealing....

 

[cavalier]

Go ahead and take the moral high ground. I don't blame anyone who burns their sick bank before retirement. When there is an end to new CEO teams coming in and then leaving every few years with their pockets bursting which has been going on for years, then and only then will I agree with this self-righteous statement. Funny. A friend of mine who retired from the government had 5 years sick time on the books and was given it in total upon retirement, yet we here at U don’t own it! I guess it’s a gift then. Did we received this GIFT through negotiations without having to give anything up? Yep kill yourself, never take a sick day even when you’re sick, and guess what. They will still cut your pay and bennies and will even furlough you. But that’s ok, you took the moral high ground and your unemployed checks will last longer because you did the right thing.