Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[700UW]

Lets see your posts full of lies.
 
The AS former rampers won the arbitration and received a financial settlement.
 
TWA former members kept their pensions and retirements due to the IAM having liens on engines and equipment.  And why dont you post the whole truth and story?
 
AA told ALL unions at TW if they didnt waive their LPPs they would not buy TWA and it would go chapter 11.  IAM went to arbitration for the TW ground workers and spent over $5 million on the Former FAs.
 
In negotiations for commuterair and XJet, and had one of the best CBAs at PMCO.
 
Spirit Ramp just unionized several months back.  

 

Members of District 141 and the Grand Lodge met with Spirit Management on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 to begin preliminary talks on securing a First Contract for the Ramp Service Agents who work in ACY, DTW, FLL, and MYR.
District 141 AGCs Mike Maiorino and Tony Gibson along with Grand Lodge Rep Joe Stassi discussed setting a schedule for January, February, and March 2015. Also discussed was the receipt of information vital to putting together a comprehensive package that includes wages, insurance, sick and holiday pay, and vacation pay to name a few key elements.
 
At the January 2015 session, Ramp Service Agents who represent the workgroup will be present to assist in the process. Surveys are being distributed in the four cities, and it is very important to complete a survey in order to address issues in the next negotiations session.
 

 
UA voted for the money, it was the members choice and they all were guaranteed a job at hub if their stations was outsourced or negotiate with UA to keep the workers there, which was done at several cities.
 
And UA was going into or in chapter 11 when IND was shutdown, and there was a clear cut process in the CBA for what occurred.
 
So keep up the lies and misinformation.
 
And what does you, a so called Passenger have anything to do with the IAM or DL union drive, except to spread your lies?

 

[737823]

What you posted may or may not be true but doesn't change the fact that IAM members at AS, UA, and TW have lost jobs and substantial compensation under the IAMs watch.  
 
Was the IAM able to get SEA operation restaffed with IAM members?  A settlement means nothing if the jobs never came back.  AS paid a small sum of money to guarantee long term cost savings by using a vendor.
 
Well you are correct in saying "Former F/As" I will give you credit there.  Many of the TWA employees are gone, there are fewer than 1000 F/As remaining on the property, I believe, and the other passenger service and fleet service employees outside of JFK and STL have reduced seniority.
 
UA stations are closing and the IAM members are not happy to relocate and be downgraded to part time and some feel the district misled them on the recent agreement.
 
And no progress on negotiations at Commutair and Spirit.  
 
Why would the IAM do anything different for DL?  Why should DL employees put their trust in an organization that has failed so many of their "members" including their very own PM-NW customer service, mechanics, and rampers?
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

You are nothing more than a passenger as you claim, yet you are way too deep in anything anti-IAM.
 
So stop with the lies, and admit your true purpose and job on the board.
 
Why would a current DL FA or ACS employee listen to a "passenger" who never was a union member, never an IAM member and never an airline employee?

 

[robbedagain]

may be next time the UA members (CO as well) will remember what they voted for the first time around.    Ive had many UA folks tell me and a few others I know that the folks who voted yes on their deal voted for the money and did not care bout anything else.   How sad that is  and now theyre reaping what they sowed by voting yes on their POS contract.   At Least PMUS got a far better deal than what could have been.   

 

[737823]

may be next time the UA members (CO as well) will remember what they voted for the first time around.    Ive had many UA folks tell me and a few others I know that the folks who voted yes on their deal voted for the money and did not care bout anything else.   How sad that is  and now theyre reaping what they sowed by voting yes on their POS contract.   At Least PMUS got a far better deal than what could have been.   

 
Robbed 700 can say it is wrong that they voted but had the negotiating committee not brought it back to the membership they never would have voted.  Its a terrible agreement and I think you yourself said that it never should have been brought back and wasn't even worth the paper it was printed on.
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

Keep avoiding the other issues.
 
Why would a DL FA or ACS care what a passenger thinks, especially one that has never been in the IAM or any union, nor has ever worked at an airline?
 
And the UA membership voted down one TA, they were surveyed again, and the NC tried to get the best they could from UA at the time according to the membership surveys.
 
Well if it wasnt worth paper it was written on then why did the UA membership ratify it?
 
So what is your real agenda and occupation, as a "passenger" you are way to deep into this campaign?

 

[737823]

This is an open forum if you don't like what I post then don't read it.  Similarly why should DL ACS and F/As care what a former USAIR stock clerk pushing the IAM thinks?  
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

You already asked and posted that.
 
I am just using the same reasoning on you.
 
So whats your real agenda being here?
 
Especially since you are so anti-union, anti-iam and anti-worker.
 
Convenient that how you never respond to the corrections to your misinformation and half-truth posts?

 

[737823]

You are just like Overspeed.
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

Refute the facts, and answers the questions.

 

[700UW]

 

[737823]

Like this?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_6CkJfHFk
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

Refute the facts, and answers the questions.

 

[737823]

Refute the facts, and answers the questions.

 
What specifically?
 
Josh

 

[700UW]

So what is your real agenda and occupation, as a "passenger" you are way to deep into this campaign?
 
Especially since you are so anti-union, anti-iam and anti-worker.
 
Convenient that how you never respond to the corrections to your misinformation and half-truth posts.
 
Why would a DL FA or ACS care what a passenger thinks, especially one that has never been in the IAM or any union, nor has ever worked at an airline?