Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[Kev3188]

Do tell; what blatent lies are you specifically referring to?

 

[townpete]

Do tell; what blatent lies are you specifically referring to?

 
Isn't it obvious? Making promises of a "clearly defined and overfunded pension."

 

[WorldTraveler]

If IAM is so great, then why do they have to resort to blatent lies?
 

plz do make sure you schedule more time with us on this board.

 

[Kev3188]

 
Isn't it obvious?

No.

 

[townpete]

Its like these pro IAM people live in some airy fairy alternate vision of a Utopia (that never existed).  

 

[Kev3188]

It is? How so?

These people? You mean your coworkers?

 

[townpete]

No.

 
Ok slick, explain how that promise will be fulfilled. 

 

[Kev3188]

What "promises?"

 

[townpete]

What "promises?"

 
If you are going to be purposely daft, then you can move along kiddo.

 

[townpete]

Q: WTF does IAM know about FA industry?
A: Nothing
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

be sure to hit on the amount of dues that are sent to IAM national and over which DL FAs would have absolutely no control or return on investment.

 

[townpete]

be sure to hit on the amount of dues that are sent to IAM national and over which DL FAs would have absolutely no control or return on investment.

 
Yeah, its basically a sham shakedown.

 

[townpete]

A lot of promises were made by IAM to the Commutair FA's OVER 7 YEARS TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT and they turned around and got screwed.
 

• Full month reserve (some reserve lines may have trips). Section 5D2
• 1% raise each year for the next three years. Section 4A
• Top pay of less than $28…even after 3 years of raises. Section 4A
• 50% deadhead pay. Section 4F
• Domestic per diem: $1.45. Section 7B
• Maximum 3 weeks vacation. Section 8A
• Duty Limitations: Scheduled up to 14.5 hours (15.5 hours for DH back to base). Section 5F2
• Layover Rest: 8.5 hours. No behind the door minimum. “If unforeseen circumstances delay a FA’s ability to reach the lodging facility…, the FA may call Crew Scheduling to discuss possible adjustment of her/his report for the following duty period.” Section 5G2
• Maximum sick time: 30 hours (2.5 hrs/month): “A FA must be active for a minimum of 15 days during any month to accrue sick leave.” Section 9A
• Section 9D1: “A FA who is absent from her/his scheduled duties as a result of illness or injury may be required to furnish the Company with an acceptable physician’s note(s).”
• Section 9D2: “The FA shall furnish the Company with a telephone number at which the FA can be contacted on each day she/he is unable to report for scheduled duty.”
• Section 9D3: “A FA on reserve who is contacted for an assignment and then contemporaneously notified the Company that she/he is ill or injured shall be considered unavailable for assignment and not eligible for sick leave.”
• No trip pay guarantee if notified of cancellation before sign in or if given a later sign in. Section 4E
• Only duty rig is a 3 hour duty period guarantee. There are no 1 for 2 duty rigs or 1 for 3.5 TAFB rig. Section 4D2

 

[robbedagain]

pete, first let me say  welcome to the airline forums.   
 
commutair is a regional small airline    if you wish  go look at the current PMUS IAM Fleet and MTR contracts    to give a better insight in what the IAM has accomplished in Sect 6 talks with US    Should the FAs elect in the IAM as the official union to represent DL FAs  given DL track record of profits I would not be surprised to see a good contract    
 
Now someone will post $h!t about the PS    which is a nice added benefit but in reality the PS is traditionally a 1 time pay out       DL pilots made out a helluva lot better with PS bec of the contract...   The rest   not as well as the flight deck crews.   

 

[townpete]

IAM is courting heavily the baby widgets promising them a bed of wine and roses's. Knowing that they will be the first ones thrown under the bus. Just ask a junior FA how they would like to sit reserve for months. 
 
They be like...