Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.
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nothing?
are you sure about that?
someone is woefully ignorant or is lying about what is going on at AA.
are you sure about that?
someone is woefully ignorant or is lying about what is going on at AA.
Are the Teamsters organizing the DL FA?BABABOOY said:
Nope, the IAM is, try again.
And there is no love loss between the IAM and the IBT, I was there first hand in the summer of 2013 when they tried to raid the IAM at US and the IBT LOST!
The IBT was raiding the TWU at AA in 2013, show us where the board came out and stated the IBT forged cards at AA and how the NMB punished them.WorldTraveler said:
Hint you wont, as your World Fraudster.
It was an allegation, never proven.
And once again it has ZERO to do with the IAM ongoing Grassroots Campaign at DL where over 12,000 DL FAs and rising have signed cards calling for an election.
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can you repeat for the microphone that the TWU and IAM have no partnerships?
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doesn't matter if the TWU and IAM are working together at DL.
They are at AA which simply means that the IAM has no qualms of getting money when it is necessary to do so, regardless of the reputation involved.
They are at AA which simply means that the IAM has no qualms of getting money when it is necessary to do so, regardless of the reputation involved.
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association
Which isnt a reality yet, its proposed.
And the two unions will remain independent and have nothing to do with their structure and autonomy, just like the CWA/IBT they have an association at US and the two unions remain autonomous.
And the two unions will remain independent and have nothing to do with their structure and autonomy, just like the CWA/IBT they have an association at US and the two unions remain autonomous.
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Not a single new point has been added since the merger.Airlinelifer said:
Going the other way, can some tell us what work the PMNW group LOST to outsourcing as a direct result of this merger? Bonus points if you can make a list for both 5550 & 5680...
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That wasn't the question.
The question was whether DL had insourced work since the merger and the answer is yes.
The question was whether DL had insourced work since the merger and the answer is yes.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLUWorldTraveler said:
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typical,
instead of admitting that DL did indeed bring back work to DL people that had been outsourced, you turn it into an attempt to belittle those who bring the truth.
your reward?
I will present you and Kev and dawg and everyone else on here that has adamantly refused to acknowledge that DL's reduction of RJ flying and addition of mainline flying is helping DL people, including on the ramp?
who works DCI flights in DTW and MSP and who works DL mainline flights?
even though there may be no difference in outstations like MSN or IND where DL people work whatever comes in, right, or in ATL, LGA/JFK, or LAX where DL people work everything, there is a difference in DTW and MSP where DL people work mainline but not DCI.
so put these little factoids in your pipes:
By this July, DL will operate 15 MORE mainline flights on average per day, ALL coming with an even larger reduction in the number of RJ flights.
For the same period, in DTW, it will be 10 new mainline flights and a larger number of RJ flights
AND DL is removing 35 RJ operated flights from DTW in the same period. 35 is a HUGE reduction in the number of RJ operated flights. that's a 35% reduction in the number of RJ flights.
and the number of total DL/DCI seats is UP... in favor of DL operated mainline flights.
and let's not forget that EVERY DL mainline flight is staffed by DL pilots and FAs - which probably explains why both depts. are hiring in such larger numbers.
so it is PATENTLY incorrect to argue that DL has not insourced work that was done by contractors.
DL's move to bring RJ flying back to DL is the single largest event in the history of insourcing in the US industry and DL, not unionized AA or UA, is doing it.
in fact, AA's fleet plan for 2015 is for the mainline fleet to SHRINK while the RJ fleet esp. of large RJs will grow.
On yet one more point, the unionistas refuse to acknowledge that DL is doing more to secure the jobs of its own people and bring work back to DL employees than AA or UA are doing despite far more unions at those airlines.
feel free to regale us with your stupid remarks and give me the opportunity to come up with yet another reason why unions have failed compared to what DL is offering its employees.
instead of admitting that DL did indeed bring back work to DL people that had been outsourced, you turn it into an attempt to belittle those who bring the truth.
your reward?
I will present you and Kev and dawg and everyone else on here that has adamantly refused to acknowledge that DL's reduction of RJ flying and addition of mainline flying is helping DL people, including on the ramp?
who works DCI flights in DTW and MSP and who works DL mainline flights?
even though there may be no difference in outstations like MSN or IND where DL people work whatever comes in, right, or in ATL, LGA/JFK, or LAX where DL people work everything, there is a difference in DTW and MSP where DL people work mainline but not DCI.
so put these little factoids in your pipes:
By this July, DL will operate 15 MORE mainline flights on average per day, ALL coming with an even larger reduction in the number of RJ flights.
For the same period, in DTW, it will be 10 new mainline flights and a larger number of RJ flights
AND DL is removing 35 RJ operated flights from DTW in the same period. 35 is a HUGE reduction in the number of RJ operated flights. that's a 35% reduction in the number of RJ flights.
and the number of total DL/DCI seats is UP... in favor of DL operated mainline flights.
and let's not forget that EVERY DL mainline flight is staffed by DL pilots and FAs - which probably explains why both depts. are hiring in such larger numbers.
so it is PATENTLY incorrect to argue that DL has not insourced work that was done by contractors.
DL's move to bring RJ flying back to DL is the single largest event in the history of insourcing in the US industry and DL, not unionized AA or UA, is doing it.
in fact, AA's fleet plan for 2015 is for the mainline fleet to SHRINK while the RJ fleet esp. of large RJs will grow.
On yet one more point, the unionistas refuse to acknowledge that DL is doing more to secure the jobs of its own people and bring work back to DL employees than AA or UA are doing despite far more unions at those airlines.
feel free to regale us with your stupid remarks and give me the opportunity to come up with yet another reason why unions have failed compared to what DL is offering its employees.
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flat out wrong there skippy you are completely and ignorantly wrong AA fleet is not gonna shrink as bad as you alleged given that AA is taking new planes and retiring some of the old MD80s. then again you had to turn things around as usual
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