Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[700UW]

Oh and I forgot, they rolled in the proposed value of the Profit Sharing to the contract. What did they quote that? Oh yea 50 Million. 

So that means the real value of their contract is now $143 MILLION give or take that lousy $196.00 above happy happy joy joy non union Delta FA's.

How much does it cost the company to throw those anti union forced meetings they do? They can have at least one a week now, LMFAO!!!!

Going up to $61 million over the life of the CBA.

 

[southwind]

Going up to $61 million over the life of the CBA.

Which can all go up in smoke when a company files BK. How many times has it been for US now?

 

[WorldTraveler]

one more time, DL is on track to record between $900M and $1B in profit sharing for its employees for 2014.

Thru just the first 2 quarters of 2014, DL has recorded $439M in profit sharing and expected $350 - 400M in just the 3rd quarter which ends next week.

IN 2013, DL recorded just over $500M which was worth over 8% of an employees' salary.

DL employees could receive 14% of their 2014 salary in profit sharing - or the equivalent of 7 weeks of additional pay.

There is simply nothing that any currently existing union contract offers that comes anywhere close to that level of additional compensation - on top of the pay raises which DL employees will receive.

http://news.delta.com/2014-07-23-Delta-Air-Lines-Announces-June-Quarter-Profit

 

[WeAAsles]

The PRO UNION Facebook page is now at 5012 members and growing. IAM seeing very high levels of participation. 😀

 

[Kev3188]

We should all thank those at AA/AS/UA that fought for their members and forced DL to act.

Still waititng to hear which HRA plan is being dropped, and what the YoY fiscal impact that will have on affected employees.

Do people covered under CBA's ever have their insurance plans unilaterally dropped w/o any warning?

 

[robbedagain]

not that im aware of Kev

 

[WeAAsles]

We should all thank those at AA/AS/UA that fought for their members and forced DL to act.

Still waititng to hear which HRA plan is being dropped, and what the YoY fiscal impact that will have on affected employees.

Do people covered under CBA's ever have their insurance plans unilaterally dropped w/o any warning?

No. But in the APFA "Agreement" the rates for US employees are going up to the AA rates. My guess is once everyone is onboard the single healthcare plan (Still 3 options) the rates will ease back a little since there will be so many in the one plan.

Q: Is the Company moving to a single healthcare plan for ALL employees or just Flight Attendants?

A: The company is moving to a single healthcare plan for all employee groups. The majority of AA’s workgroups are already on the AA plans and as each labor contract is completed, the covered workers will move to the AA plans. The JNC impressed upon the company the importance of softening the impact of this by keeping LUS on its current healthcare for 2015 and providing a $3,000 transition payment to defray the costs. Both LAA and LUS Flight Attendants will have choices in healthcare as will the entire company.

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=1450c9c25bd3b5096022a9f71&id=263e1561ce

 

[WeAAsles]

My guess is that every workgroup at AA will have a CBA before next years benefit enrollment which will save both the company and the employees some money in healthcare costs?

 

[700UW]

And he will never learn, being unionized is not all about pay and compensation, it's about scope, workrules and having the benefits of having a CBA.

 

[WeAAsles]

And he will never learn, being unionized is not all about pay and compensation, it's about scope, workrules and having the benefits of having a CBA.

How could he learn? He's probably never been a part of a union? Whatever he's ever earned in life is left up to "Market Rate" or going before the boss to ask for a raise. And whatever the boss gives him can be taken away with terms like "We haven't met our goals" He is also subject to that other Politically correct term "The Company is Downsizing" I remember the first new term after corporations stopped using "Fired" was "You're being let go" That one couldn't work though because you can just say that you don't want to be let go.

Here at AA they call it "Terminated" Cold word but at least it's not ridiculous like those other terms. Now if you have a Union you start the grievance procedure. I can write out plenty of examples of successes under that procedure but here's just one.

A guy I know was terminated once. He was married to a high level manager who caught him cheating on her. She stonewalled the grievance for almost 6 months. She was also the one who upheld the termination. Well eventually it went to arbitration. The ruling was that he was to be reinstated with FULL backpay. The company was also required to take a snapshot of his last years worth of pay and average out any and all extra hours he worked including OT and he was awarded the highest 6 month average in pay.

Can anything like that happen at Non Union Delta?

Oh and BTW. After the guy's reinstatement his now ex wife was "Let Go"

 

[WorldTraveler]

The PRO UNION Facebook page is now at 5012 members and growing. IAM seeing very high levels of participation. 😀

And he will never learn, being unionized is not all about pay and compensation, it's about scope, workrules and having the benefits of having a CBA.

it could grow to 60K but if DL employees have to take a paycut in order to be a part of a union, they aren't interested.

DL's compensation increases for this year flat out will be the best in the airline industry. 9% looks like child's play to DL employees.
 
 

We should all thank those at AA/AS/UA that fought for their members and forced DL to act.

Still waititng to hear which HRA plan is being dropped, and what the YoY fiscal impact that will have on affected employees.

Do people covered under CBA's ever have their insurance plans unilaterally dropped w/o any warning?

 
the PLAN is dropped, Kev. Coverage is not.

While you harp on the gnat, how about you post some details about the differences in coverage?

 

[Kev3188]

I'll get right on that; just as soon as you tell us which plan has been unilaterally eliminated.

I'll need to know the terms of the HSA that's replacing it as well.

What's that? There won't be any details prior to 10/8? Oh. Okay, then...


@WeAAsles-- at DL, they refer to it as being "transitioned."

 

[jimntx]

Which I hate.  Transition is a noun, not a verb.  It's like saying i carred into town to get my groceries.  Or, I broomed the living room to get up the dust that blew in the open window.

 

[WeAAsles]

I'll get right on that; just as soon as you tell us which plan has been unilaterally eliminated.

I'll need to know the terms of the HSA that's replacing it as well.

What's that? There won't be any details prior to 10/8? Oh. Okay, then...


@WeAAsles-- at DL, they refer to it as being "transitioned."

Transitioned? lol Transitioned into what? Does Delta provide any assistance into whatever they may be transitioning their employee into? Do they get a heads up that they need to have a plan of transition?

Thanks Kev. Never heard that STUPID phrase used before.

 

[WeAAsles]

Hey WT do some research. By LAW a company cannot make arbitrary changes to pay or benefits once a Union has been voted in as a collective bargaining agent.

I thought you would have known that?