Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[topDawg]

well yes it absolutely is true. DL Tech Ops does far more insourcing work than any other US airline and DL's outsourcing rate was already lower than US, UA, and WN.

DL's net outsourcing rate including what it insources is LESS than pre-merger AA.

and again, as I have told you 1000 times, jobs wise the insourcing does not offset outsourcing in terms of jobs. 
 
simple fact, Delta doesn't do anything in-house that needs the insourcing work to keep it in house. The only engine that would have issues is the PW4000 but once the 60+  PW4168s are added in even that shop would have enough Delta work to keep it going. 
 

and given that Parker is dismantling the little bit of insourcing that AA did while DL is moving to bring more work in-house, the trend at DL is going in the right direction compared to at other airlines.

Parker hasn't outsourced anything at this point. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

you honestly say that after posting in the "TAESL is closing thread"

If closing TAESL isn't going to result in outsourcing, then you don't get the concept.

Whether AA or RR initiated the move means nothing. AA WILL BE outsourcing work and doing less insourcing in the process. If keeping that work in -house was that important to AA, Parker could spend the money to keep the work.

But since it's Parker and he has unions, he gets a pass so you can bash DL.

 

[topDawg]

you honestly say that after posting in the "TAESL is closing thread"

If closing TAESL isn't going to result in outsourcing, then you don't get the concept.

Whether AA or RR initiated the move means nothing. AA WILL BE outsourcing work and doing less insourcing in the process. If keeping that work in -house was that important to AA, Parker could spend the money to keep the work.

But since it's Parker and he has unions, he gets a pass so you can bash DL.

and as I have posted in that thread 
 
Not only did Parker not have a choice in the matter, AA tried to find viable options to keep it open. 
 
Rolls shut it down. JVs are a two (or more) party agreement that some times one partner can't keep going if they other doesn't. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

so DL could do the work inhouse without RR but AA could not?

you do work over-time to come up with this.

You can go to bed now.... you're failing further in your arguments with each passing minute.

 

[700UW]

well yes it absolutely is true. DL Tech Ops does far more insourcing work than any other US airline and DL's outsourcing rate was already lower than US, UA, and WN.DL's net outsourcing rate including what it insources is LESS than pre-merger AA.and given that Parker is dismantling the little bit of insourcing that AA did while DL is moving to bring more work in-house, the trend at DL is going in the right direction compared to at other airlines.feel free to keep posting otherwise but it doesn't make it true.

More lies and WT's Fabricated Facts.

Parker did not end the partnership with RR, RR did.

You won't ever stop with the lies.

Under Parker AA and US have brought work back in-house and wants to upgrade TULE and build a new test cell.

It's simply amazing how you post lie after lie and still believe what you post when you are proven wrong over and over.

 

[topDawg]

so DL could do the work inhouse without RR but AA could not?

you do work over-time to come up with this.

You can go to bed now.... you're failing further in your arguments with each passing minute.

1) Delta isn't working any RR in-house "without RR" As i have told you before, Delta signed a TotalCare agreement with rollers. google it to figure out what that means. 
 
2) Again scale economics, AA can not run the Trent 800 in-house, TULE test cell is to small, and RB211 fleet is getting to small to economically do in-house
 
here is the thing WT, very clear you don't know what you are talking about..........so stop. Please....just makes you look foolish

 

[topDawg]

More lies and WT's Fabricated Facts.

Parker did not end the partnership with RR, RR did.

You won't ever stop with the lies.

Under Parker AA and US have brought work back in-house and wants to upgrade TULE and build a new test cell.

It's simply amazing how you post lie after lie and still believe what you post when you are proven wrong over and over.

Just FWIW the TULE upgrades have been asked for a long before Parker.
maybe Horton, likely Arpey  
 
having said that, Horton then Parker wouldn't keep it going if they wanted to end the engine shop at TULE. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

you forgot to say "good morning." Hope you got a cup of coffee.

you whine that DL could do engine overhauls on its own that it sends out and yet give AA a pass because RR terminated the relationship.

If DL could do any of the work it does inhouse, then so could AA.

What engines does AA do in-house that it DOESN'T DO MRO work for? CF6s, CFMs?

I have never argued that DL doesn't outsource but YOU don't want to accept that DL specializes in a few types of MRO work and does it not only for its own fleet but also does it on an MRO basis.

AA MIGHT do some MRO engine work at TUL but DL is already committed to doing large engine work in ATL that it did not have the capability to do. DL isn't building that facility for just its own 50 Airbus aircraft.

again, DL insources to offset the work it sends out.

other carriers simply do not to anywhere near the same degree.

 

[Kev3188]

When did the representation campaign for Tech Ops start?

 

[southwind]

When did the representation campaign for Tech Ops start?

When will the representation campaigns for Ramp/FA get the cards back?

 

[BABABOOY]

When will the representation campaigns for Ramp/FA get the cards back?

 
can't speak for the ramp but as for F/A's they will never (at least in the next 10 years) get 50%+1 signed lol

 

[Kev3188]

When will the representation campaigns for Ramp/FA get the cards back?

Back from where?
 
 

can't speak for the ramp but as for F/A's they will never (at least in the next 10 years) get 50%+1 signed lol

Never say never...

 

[southwind]

Back from where?  Never say never...

Back from whomever they sent or gave them to, in order to find out if they had 50+1.
Any more explanations?

 

[Kev3188]

That's not how it works.

An employee signs a card--> Card goes to the IAMAW in MD.--> Once it is determined that 50% +1 of eligible employees have turned in cards, the union can petition the NMB for an election. If the NMB confirms that the threshold has been met, an election is then held.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

That's not how it works.
An employee signs a card--> Card goes to the IAMAW in MD.--> Once it is determined that 50% +1 of eligible employees have turned in cards, the union can petition the NMB for an election. If the NMB confirms that the threshold has been met, an election is then held.

Seriously?

You lost him at "That's not how."