Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[topDawg]

That is what you got out of that entire exchange?

I am so thankful that Delta found a small bench in a little shop for you to toil away.

NWA had bid spots reserved for "special" cases like you.

 So does DL. Its called management. Just look at WT......
 

your response to southwind is nothing short of a disgrace.

but this post is just gold........ 
 

I'm so glad that DL didn't ever have to make the choice to hire you, Q.

I think its safe to say we are all very happy that guys like you are also gone. At least Q doesn't act like he is the company know it all like you. 
 

thankfully you and your brilliant union ended the careers of 5000 of the highest paid workers in the industry, leaving DL with one less union to have to deal with, and in your case, one less liability to have to assume.

Two things. 
1) AMFA had a vote at DL. Chances are that even if the strike didn't happen the AMFA wasn't going to win at the larger Delta. Facts are stupid though
2) NW was planning to lay most of them off anyways. That is why they went on strike genus. Again, facts are stupid though. 
 

I lay a wreath of gratitude at the shrine of AMFA every chance I get.

 That is because you don't know what your talking about. honestly for those of us who are educated on the AMFA strike the more you post on it the more we all realize you know very little about NWA, the AMFA, Aircraft Maintenance, Delta, Delta TechOps or really the airline industry at all.  
 

Go ahead! Help Kev and other former IAM members shuck and jive their way out of the fact they performed struck work (notice whenever I bring it up, and hush falls across the room)!
 
And I'm so thankful people like you no longer work in the airline industry, as there are no spots for special cases like you at DL!
 
So much for  "no personal attacks" coming from the "Pro-Union" peeps, I guess! But, then again, if the shoe fits..................

Pretty sure Kev isn't in one of the few stations who scabbed......
 

Why? Because they parrot your agenda?
 
Again, noticing the "No Personal Attacks", doesn't apply to the pro-union peeps. At least, when this thread gets closed, like the last one, we know who to blame!

Your kidding right? read the post of WT two posts up and tell me its the pro-union people. 
 
 
but thats yalls thing though right? you do as you wish and see what you wanna see. We are all just stupid.

 

[WorldTraveler]

This is why we have the issues we do. Don't like it get out. 
 
 
be much better off when people like you are gone. (or better yet, you get to play the game the Dallas guys did. I'd love for some of you to get bumped out to MSP and made an ASM.) 
 
but again, as long as who have a job who cares about others or the junior people. Southwind is all we need to worry about.

wow....

so it's evil for a non-union person to say that someone who doesn't agree with them should leave but it's ok for you to say that about a non-union supporter?

hate to break it to you but the chances are a whole lot higher that southwind will leave DL when he wants and not a day earlier.

if you don't like that reality, well you could just.... ___________

 

[topDawg]

wow....

so it's evil for a non-union person to say that someone who doesn't agree with them should leave but it's ok for you to say that about a non-union supporter?

hate to break it to you but the chances are a whole lot higher that southwind will leave DL when he wants and not a day earlier.

if you don't like that reality, well you could just.... ___________

Where did I say he should leave? He should be humbled maybe. Few years working as an ASM or MUE in MSP and he might start thinking things aren't so grand. 
 
but as long as people like you and him don't get screwed over then you don't care about the guy below you. I do. I still carry pain know that people in Dallas and Tampa lost their families and had to move away. It hurts thinking about it getting so bad for guys that they felt the need to kill themselves. If it makes me a bad guy that I really do care about ALL the employees at Delta then I'll be happy to be that bad guy.
but again, long as it isn't you then why care? (and you can post about how sorry and how much you do care, but its clear for your post (and even dodging the question in other threads) that your just putting on an act. So please don't even waste the bandwidth)  

 

[southwind]

This is why we have the issues we do. Don't like it get out. 
 
 
be much better off when people like you are gone. (or better yet, you get to play the game the Dallas guys did. I'd love for some of you to get bumped out to MSP and made an ASM.) 
 
but again, as long as who have a job who cares about others or the junior people. Southwind is all we need to worry about. 

 
Where do you get off, in response to me saying I'm happy with what I'm making and the benefits I receive and that I don't need or want a union, by telling me I need to be humbled by being bumped and dropped to an ASM?
Not sure how long you've been at DL, but I was bumped years ago and took a paycut, so don't talk to me about being humbled!
 
Maybe DL will be better off by bumping people like you down to an ASM position, who believe they are owed something and want to blame others for their current situation!
 
Do you think a union will protect junior people over senior people..........go for it.
 
Oh and to quote you, "Don't like it, get out!"

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, dawg, it's no act.

these are very real business issues.

in case you missed it, the US affirmatively noted that the country was on the wrong track and that it needs a less government more business focused approach to the economy.

what you don't seem to want to accept is that DL as with all companies has to adapt to decidedly challenging business conditions, regardless of who is in charge in Washington.

From deregulation of the industry, which opened the floodgates of assault on legacy carriers until ObamaCare which is by far the single biggest reason for stagnation of the growth of full-time benefitted and outsourced jobs, DL has had to and has succeeded at adapting

your peers are the ones that have said that don't want more third parties involved in determining the success of their company or their careers

it will truly be worth watching what happens in the US airline industry over the next two years as the role of gov't will likely be reduced at the same time when the legacies have finally reached a point where they can be profitable regardless of what happens in Washington.

in a more business favorable climate, the chances are very high that your desire to see jobs readded not just at DL but across the US might finally see some reality.

in the meantime and in the current reality, DL is doing more to bring mainline flying back to DL employees faster than any other US airline is doing - and they are making very good money doing so.

it is great to see the DL forum as active as it is inspite of the much larger percentage of AA/US employees on this site.

 

[Kev3188]

 

but as long as people like you and him don't get screwed over then you don't care about the guy below you.

Atomized employee groups make for pliable employee groups...

...And that's just how our corporate benefactor likes it.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Atomized employee groups make for pliable employee groups...

.

???

 

[Kev3188]

This can't possibly be the first time you've heard that?

Nevertheless...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atomize

See #3...

 

[WorldTraveler]

just wondering when the Nuclear Regulatory Commission will be summoned to evaluate DL's labor relations. 🙂 🙂 🙂

btw, good morning!

 

[700UW]

 

[WorldTraveler]

even with the reality that many Americans themselves are saying that the middle class is shrinking, 44% of the US still calls themselves middle class. By Pew's definition, they separate out Lower Middle Class.

http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/the-middle-class-pew-research-key-data-points/

the Commerce Dept. says that Middle Class is defined more by aspirations and values than a defined salary level.
http://www.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/documents/migrated/Middle%20Class%20Report.pdf

based on that definition and with abundant data, they believe that a Middle Class lifestyle not only is possible but still exists for the majority of Americans who self-define themselves as Middle class.

 

[737823]

At the same time unions like the IAM are pushing $9/hr jobs with no benefits. Why don't you post more the Robert Reich "class warfare" videos?

Josh

 

[southwind]

 
Yep! I'll lay the blame on your Annointed One making you pay more taxes!

 

[700UW]

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. You don't even know how the Federal Government works.

 

[topDawg]

 
Where do you get off, in response to me saying I'm happy with what I'm making and the benefits I receive and that I don't need or want a union, by telling me I need to be humbled by being bumped and dropped to an ASM?
Not sure how long you've been at DL, but I was bumped years ago and took a paycut, so don't talk to me about being humbled!
 
Maybe DL will be better off by bumping people like you down to an ASM position, who believe they are owed something and want to blame others for their current situation!
 
Do you think a union will protect junior people over senior people..........go for it.
 
Oh and to quote you, "Don't like it, get out!"

clearly it didn't sink in champ. I don't need to be bumped to ASM, I see the real issues for them. 
 
Do you care that it takes an ASM going to JFK or LAX to get an AMT spot? While Delta brings in contractor after contractor in Atlanta to at AMT spots? My guess is you couldn't give a rats behind. 
 
I don't think I am "owed" anything. I am happy with my pay, blame the government more than Delta for the health care and loss of pension. I am very unhappy with Delta's outsourcing, but them bring work in would do nothing for me. I have the shift, bay, leads and days off that I want. So yes, I am fighting for our craft and the future generations.  
 
and I have already said I wouldn't vote for a union if a drive came up. I have yet to see one who will do anything to do anything I want done at Delta.