Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

[WorldTraveler]

no, the company's resources ARE NOT that of employees.

the sooner you learn that concept the sooner you will thrive in the real world.

no one is punishing anyone for speaking up. I am simply proposing that people live with the world they think actually exists... if DL is so bad, then let them live with the "bad" that DL is in their mind.

you and Kev are scared to death that you might actually get what you think DL is instead of the real DL which is considerably more tolerant and gracious than your image.

 

[Kev3188]

probably coming from the same place Delta gets money to put out all its anti-union propaganda....

That's a lot of $$$ that could be going into our PS checks...
 

That isn't a company wide system number one
number two Delta has complete control over the work rules etc. So peer review is only as good as the rules. If Delta wants you gone, you gone. Simple as that. 
and third you get to pay for your own representation. Doesn't happen that way in a union.

Exactly.

Let's a also remember that under the current system, you are not allowed to face your accuser, present evidence on your behalf, or even have anyone in the room with you.

And again, even if one thinks CRP is a viable option, it's only available to people in IFS and Tech Ops. 
 
 
 

Good work. Keep hitting that ball out of the park. At least if you aren't going to be right, be great at being wrong. ]

Right?
 

Again, when have you stopped posting Delta propaganda?

Never?

 

[WorldTraveler]

and again we saw what happened when airline employees actually run the show... it was called ESOP and it was a total flop.

Airline mgmts. are free to spend their money the way they see fit.

Labor is paid based on what they can get in the market; if they choose to negotiate, at least among legacy carries, the financial result will be lower than what DL is paying.

airline employees do not get to tell mgmt. how to spend money which is not allocated to employees whether it be in a negotiated or non-negotiated environment.

and just a little perspective... DL spent $9.2 BILLION on employee expense and profit sharing.

even if DL spent $25 million on "anti-union activities" (and the reality is likely a fraction of that amount) the total is less than a rounding error compared to DL's employee expenses.

 

[southwind]

 Again, when have you stopped posting Delta propaganda?

When has 700 stopped posting IAM propaganda?

 

[jcw]

no, the company's resources ARE NOT that of employees.the sooner you learn that concept the sooner you will thrive in the real world.no one is punishing anyone for speaking up. I am simply proposing that people live with the world they think actually exists... if DL is so bad, then let them live with the "bad" that DL is in their mind.you and Kev are scared to death that you might actually get what you think DL is instead of the real DL which is considerably more tolerant and gracious than your image.

It is since it is reduced from profits which reduces profit sharing

 

[WorldTraveler]

Even if it is $25M (and I doubt it is even $10 million/year) and it all went to DL's bottom line, using the profit sharing formula it is still a rounding error compared to what DL actually spends on its employees.

and it still highlights that airline employees even with a union do not have the freedom to choose how to spend the company's money.... unions aren't included in far larger expenses like acquisitions (other than in situations like the DL/NW merger where the pilots pre-approved their part of the merger) or interest payments, all of which are many multiples over what DL even spends on health care - let alone lobbying for whatever reason.

 

[southwind]

That's a lot of $$$ that could be going into our PS checks... Exactly.Let's a also remember that under the current system, you are not allowed to face your accuser, present evidence on your behalf, or even have anyone in the room with you.And again, even if one thinks CRP is a viable option, it's only available to people in IFS and Tech Ops.    Right? Never?

Just think of all the money the IAM is wasting, on "ANOTHER" attempt to infiltrate DL, that could be used to manicure their golf course, put new tires on their corporate jet or, heaven forbid, help current members who go on strike!

 

[WorldTraveler]

the IAM is in "burn the furniture" mode to try to secure their future.

any other company that has lost 35% of their membership in a little over ten years would have been buried a long time ago.

 

[700UW]

More lies, there are over 350,000 active IAM members.

 

[yoyodyne]

More lies, there are over 350,000 active IAM members dues payers.

 
Fixed it for ya...

 

[WorldTraveler]

now for math class... tell us how many members the IAM had in the year 2000

of course it is all a lie because it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[700UW]

350,000 Active members and 400,000 retired.

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, the IAM did not have 350,000 active members in 2000 and 2014.

 

[700UW]

 

[700UW]

2013 LM-2 shows at the end of the year 537,423 members.
 
So are you saying the IAM is lying to the DOL?
 
http://kcerds.dol-esa.gov/query/orgReport.do