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Grassroots Efforts at DL for ACS and FAs, no personal attacks.

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WorldTraveler said:
actually, YOU are not.

YOU don't work for Delta Air Lines.
And neither do you.
 
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Delta is now making the FAs share their crew bunks with the pilots who negotiated their loss of crew bunks, now the company is going to let them use the FA crew bunks and the FAs are not happy about it.
 
700UW said:
Delta is now making the FAs share their crew bunks with the pilots who negotiated their loss of crew bunks, now the company is going to let them use the FA crew bunks and the FAs are not happy about it.
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
 
Delta is now making the FAs share their crew bunks with the pilots who negotiated their loss of crew bunks, now the company is going to let them use the FA crew bunks and the FAs are not happy about it.
another IAM lie.

I'll give you one chance to correct it before I do.

now, tell the truth.

do you know how?

you are the best advertisement DL mgmt. needs for how much the IAM will lie to buy votes.
 
WorldTraveler said:
another IAM lie.I'll give you one chance to correct it before I do.now, tell the truth.do you know how?you are the best advertisement DL mgmt. needs for how much the IAM will lie to buy votes.
It's not a lie, show the board otherwise.
 
yes it is a lie.

NO DL FAs are required to share their bunk with anyone, including a pilot.

on the PMNW 333s, ONE pilot may use ONE of the bunks in the crew rest facility.

given that there are MORE bunks than there are FAs who can use those bunks at one time, no one is getting pushed out of their bed.

And your bringing up the subject yet another time provides yet one more opportunity to note that DL has lie flat crew rest facilities that are off the passenger cabin on its entire fleet of widebody int'l cabin.

in complete contrast, AA FAs with their supposedly can't do wrong union, have crew facilities on a far fewer percentage of aircraft at all and a MINORITY of AA crew rest facilities are not off of the passenger deck.

and while UA does better, they still do not have never as high of a percentage of lie flat crew facilities as DL has, now do they, 697?

DL FAs have the best FA crew rest accommodations among US carriers even if the IAM's propaganda machine wants to try to argue otherwise.
 
Not what the active DL FAs are saying, and they would know more than you, I will post their complaints and concerns later.
 
feel free to post whatever you want.

and your reply here validates that all you know how to do is take someone else's word and repost it if it has a prayer of advancing the IAM's cause.

and those FAs - undoubtedly all wearing IAM buttons - won't tell you and neither will you admit that DL FAs have access to more lie flat crew rest bunks than any other US airline.

and ALL of them on DL's entire widebody fleet is off of the main passenger cabin.

AA and UA's unionized FAs would love to have what DL FAs have for crew rest facilities.
 
there is no one being pushed out of their bunk.

there are enough bunks for everyone.

if someone has been laying claim to a particular bunk, then it was probably time to switch it up anyway.

and pilot crew rest cycles are different from FAs. Pilots can use the crew rest facility very soon after takeoff and until shortly before landing. FAs are serving on the main deck.

it is an airplane operated by your employer, not a personal residence

and you still can't deny that DL FAs have more crew rest bunks than any other US airlines and no other airline offers them all off the main cabin floor.

but thanks for bringing up that "concern" so we could address the real facts.

oh... and those crew rest facilities that DL has put on the aircraft are modular and can be removed and replaced with jump seats in the galley which is what some airlines do.

of course, it is all subject to negotiation.
 
eolesen said:
Well, I don't know about you, but the day I have enough in the bank where I never have to work again is the day I stop working.

Something tells me Leo and Ron hit that goal and then some. Why should they want to put up with the day to day BS of running a company if they don't need to anymore?
uh... I don't know what Leo is up to but Ron is still working. No one in the airline industry was stupid enough to touch him though. 
 
swamt said:
No disrespect to any union member.  But it is quite comical to sit here and watch 2 people go back and forth over the last few pages, and it's all about the 2 worst unions out there on who is really the worst when it comes to scope.  Now think about our fellow mechanics over at AA where it is looking like they may get forced into an alliance/association by the combination of these 2 worst unions TWU and IAM. Still hoping for some "other" options to come to our fellow mechanics at AA...
lol, I know an AMFA member, at around 60% allowable outsourcing isn't tossing stones at the TWU........Or the IBT or the IAM who all allow less outsourcing. 
 
You and the rest of the people at WN are a key reason WHY ARE CRAFT HAS TURNED TO ****. 
 
and your union is "happy" with your scope. 
 
700UW said:
Delta is now making the FAs share their crew bunks with the pilots who negotiated their loss of crew bunks, now the company is going to let them use the FA crew bunks and the FAs are not happy about it.
if they don't like it then they better vote.... 
 
700UW said:
Not what the active DL FAs are saying, and they would know more than you, I will post their complaints and concerns later.
Of course you will. The IAM would never fabricate something like that!
 
and again, the only difference is that a single specific bunk that used to be designated by the company as for the purser (the whole crew rest routine is all very standardized by the company) has been shifted to the pilots on, so far as I can tell, ONE SUBFLEET.

no one is losing a bunk.

DL offers more bunks for FAs than any other airline and 100% of DL's bunks are off of the main cabin passenger deck - not adjacent to passenger toilets as half of AA's fleet is.

this is exactly the type of issue that will blow up in the IAM's face so quickly that DL can very easily make it clear how much they have done regarding FA crew rest that is far in excess of what is legally required and far in excess of what other competitors with CBAs are doing.

DL's comments that everything is subject to negotiation and ANY improvements in one area would likely come at the cost of something else put the DL FA crew rest program at serious risk under a CBA.

whether the IAM will admit it, DL's entire FA crew rest program is the best in the US carrier industry and is exactly the kind of thing the company could erode if a few people (mind you this is only IAM leaning pursers who even care about this) make a big deal about something that is insignificant compared to what AA and UA offer.
 
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