Grievances on Seniority Boarding

[delldude]

Well technically nonreving is a benefit not a right. The company could just start charging and prioritize based on amount paid per mile.

But 'technically' it has defined in several CBA's,technically speaking of course.

 

[SpinDoc]

What can they grieve? NRSA travel is a benefit not a contract issue.

The company doesn’t have to let you fly free.

SpinDoc replies:

"Give that man a cigar". You are EXACTLY correct. Flight privileges are just that, PRIVILEGES, and the company can do whatever they want. Don't get your panties in a wad because what the company giveth, they can taketh away. US has some of the best flight privileges in the industry.

 

[Travelpro72]

While that may be true an agreement is an agreement. The agreement is being broken. So thats just OK? Am I missing something here? Why not just change everything else we negotiate whenever management wants to.

 

[SpinDoc]

While that may be true an agreement is an agreement. The agreement is being broken. So thats just OK? Am I missing something here? Why not just change everything else we negotiate whenever management wants to.

SpinDoc replies:

Like I said, keep pressing the matter, and then see what management's reaction is. Regardless of the CBA's, the company can terminate the flight PRIVILEGE any time they wish. Of course, it's in the best interest of the company AND the unions to work this out, but YOH versus DOH is not that big of a deal if you are a good planner and know how to work the system. Maybe a compromise could be reached whereby commuters on their way to the base to start their job would have a higher boarding code than leisure non-rev travelers. No matter what, someone needs to come up with a plan that ensures crew positioning, and gives all leisure travelers the opportunity to get on a flight no matter when they started with the company. The old ways of doing things are becoming less and less relevant, and change is inevitable.

 

[TheNewUSAirways]

SpinDoc replies:

Like I said, keep pressing the matter, and then see what management's reaction is. Regardless of the CBA's, the company can terminate the flight PRIVILEGE any time they wish. Of course, it's in the best interest of the company AND the unions to work this out, but YOH versus DOH is not that big of a deal if you are a good planner and know how to work the system. Maybe a compromise could be reached whereby commuters on their way to the base to start their job would have a higher boarding code than leisure non-rev travelers. No matter what, someone needs to come up with a plan that ensures crew positioning, and gives all leisure travelers the opportunity to get on a flight no matter when they started with the company. The old ways of doing things are becoming less and less relevant, and change is inevitable.

You are right that people need to learn to plan . .just a little. The odds of being on a FULL flight with someone from the EXACT same YOH that was hired earlier in that year are probably not all that high.

However, commuters should NOT get a special priority.

 

[Travelpro72]

You are right that people need to learn to plan . .just a little. The odds of being on a FULL flight with someone from the EXACT same YOH that was hired earlier in that year are probably not all that high.

However, commuters should NOT get a special priority.

Are you serious? You are obviously NOT a commuter or are on the west side. Some of our High commuting cities are insane when it comes to trying to get to and from work. Everyone always thinks the "West". There are Hundreds and hundreds that commute out of every city in Florida alone. Regardless of the company Terminating the travel benefits tomorrow it was an agreed upon item in OUR contract. What do you think would happen if the company cancelled or altered the travel policy in a severe way? The whole EAST operation would be shut down baby. NOBODY would get to work.

 

[SpinDoc]

You are right that people need to learn to plan . .just a little. The odds of being on a FULL flight with someone from the EXACT same YOH that was hired earlier in that year are probably not all that high.

However, commuters should NOT get a special priority.

SpinDoc Replies:

You are wrong on this one. Commuters make US fly. If someone can't get to their assigned city, then the operation suffers. Commuters should have a higher boarding priority than NRSA leisure travelers. Period. This could be the negotiating point to settle the YOH grievance, and I think it would go a long way to keeping US operations in check.

 

[Elevation]

As a commuter for 9 years, I use the jumpseat as my way to get to work along with open seats when available. Do I wish the mechanic and his family going to Disneyworld would allow me to cut in front of them so I could get to work, yes, is it fair to do that to them, no. Commuting is a choice you take the bad with the bad. Entitlements are for the weak, put your hand back in your pocket and put your chin up.

 

[ClueByFour]

SpinDoc replies:

"Give that man a cigar". You are EXACTLY correct. Flight privileges are just that, PRIVILEGES, and the company can do whatever they want. Don't get your panties in a wad because what the company giveth, they can taketh away. US has some of the best flight privileges in the industry.

Apparently it's not the case, least as it pertains to West ALPA.

 

[N903AW]

There are Hundreds and hundreds that commute out of every city in Florida alone.

Did East have a crew base in Florida that closed in the past?

 

[Fly4Free]

It is in our contract. DOH not YOH.

OMG GET OVER IT EV1!! BOTH SIDES MADE A COMPROMISE, WHO THE HECK CARES!

 

[exB717Flyer]

OMG GET OVER IT EV1!! BOTH SIDES MADE A COMPROMISE, WHO THE HECK CARES!

Now, now, if DOH is in their CBA they have a right and an obligation to grieve it.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Did East have a crew base in Florida that closed in the past?

PI had a base in MIA. Closed after the merger with US.

 

[Elevation]

PI had a base in MIA. Closed after ther merger with US.

What decade was that?

 

[700UW]

The FL shuttle had a crew base there it was closed in the early 90s.