July - IAM Fleet Service Discussions

[Tim Nelson]

A fraud? and would be "looted"? No wonder they didn't listen to you. How much listening did you do to them?

The problem was that I did listen and heard everything they said to stay informed. Did they listen to me?? Of course not, they listen to nobody.

They told our members it was 'guaranteed'. I still have Roach's letter in which he said the defined benefit was guaranteed [during the TWU card drive in 2006]. As we now know, there is nothing defined about the plan that is guaranteed. Let's hope that our members are not subjected to any further reduction of future 'defined benefits' and that their retirmements aren't further hijacked.

At any rate, it is truly sad that only IAM fleet doesn't get any profit sharing. No snap backs. Nothing. And although changing leadership in 2008 was worth a shot, it proved ineffective at the end of the day.

regards,




regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

We are loosing nearly 50 percent of our monthly multiplier and this is all you got. They've screwed it up.

the continual loss of members strongly suggest that a 3rd round of benefit cuts may be in order.

regards,

 

[The Bagfather]

The problem was that I did listen and heard everything they said to stay informed. Did they listen to me?? Of course not, they listen to nobody.

They told our members it was 'guaranteed'. I still have Roach's letter in which he said the defined benefit was guaranteed [during the TWU card drive in 2006]. As we now know, there is nothing defined about the plan that is guaranteed. Let's hope that our members are not subjected to any further reduction of future 'defined benefits' and that their retirmements aren't further hijacked.

At any rate, it is truly sad that only IAM fleet doesn't get any profit sharing. No snap backs. Nothing. And although changing leadership in 2008 was worth a shot, it proved ineffective at the end of the day.

regards,




regards,

Fair enough. Carry on. So we will accept the TWU as a better alternative and when that proves ineffective well go somewhere else. What's your long term plan?

 

[john john]

http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/pdf/wrera-notice09300945.pdf
The plan was in endangered status in 2009

 

[700UW]

And now its not.

http://mypension.iamnpf.org/media/66178/2011AFN.pdf

It is 106.3% funded.

 

[rockit2]

And now its not.

http://mypension.iam...178/2011AFN.pdf

It is 106.3% funded.

Then why are they cutting the multiplier? You know it all .... tell me why.

 

[Dog Wonder]

It looks like some losers are promoting division again.

What does that do for the membership?

 

[700UW]

Then why are they cutting the multiplier? You know it all .... tell me why.

Do you have comprehension problems?

I all ready posted why and if you are so wanting to know, call the plan, and read the letter they sent you. But its easier for you to attack instead of educating yourself.

 

[Tim Nelson]

And now its not.

http://mypension.iam...178/2011AFN.pdf

It is 106.3% funded.

Yes, it is funded. Funded on our backs, i.e.,

And it may have to be 'funded' soon again. Let's hope we aren't part of a '3rd' funding'.

sheesh

 

[john john]

What's your long term plan?

If you retire and get another job your IAM pension is suspend

 

[700UW]

No, only if you work in the airline industry or another IAM job, as most pensions are, the IBT is the same way.

How is that CWA pension?

Oh wait, you dont have one, you have a 401k where you have to use your own money.

 

[Harry Callahan]

If you retire and get another job your IAM pension is suspend

Now that's f'kd up.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

I am curious to hear what your idea of a fair seniority integration be if this abortion of a merger should take place?

As I have always said, SENIORITY should be by DATE OF HIRE for all. There is no argument to it. Take both sides, arrange them by DOH and merge them exactly where their DOH falls.

Rogue.....

 

[rockit2]

As I have always said, SENIORITY should be by DATE OF HIRE for all. There is no argument to it. Take both sides, arrange them by DOH and merge them exactly where their DOH falls.

Rogue.....

That's the bottom line, the day you walk on the property is your seniority date

 

[pjirish317]

At any rate, it is truly sad that only IAM fleet doesn't get any profit sharing. No snap backs. Nothing. And although changing leadership in 2008 was worth a shot, it proved ineffective at the end of the day.

regards,




regards,

Tim,

You and I both know that IAM fleet does not have any of those things, not because of the new leadership, but because of canoli, and YOU. Were you not a big proponet for a no vote on the first T/A, stating something to the effect of "we could do better", or something like that anyway? Heck I think even I was against the first T/A that was offered. And correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the first T/A have some snapbacks, and a pension increase in it? Not that the pension increase was really worth it, but it was something. And I don't think there was any profit sharing in either T/A, though I can't remember exactly. The first one that was voted against may have had it, I really don't know.Yet you come on here throwing stones at the people that were elected in 2008 trying to place blame on them. They had nothing to do with the train wreck of a T/A that we voted in and you know this. But somehow, it's not your fault, it's the ND's fault. How exactly is that? You had a major hand in the first no vote, yet you claim no responsability? That's low even for you. Still bitter for losing are you? Blame everybody but yourself. You are really a piece of work. You want all of the credit, but none of the blame. You would be a great manager for US, you fit their M.O. to a T.