July - US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

Met a trembler three days ago that was worried a "no" vote from us will cause our company to shut the doors... does the moron realize we exited bankruptcy years ago? He's gonna be at the 21st meeting to support Garry :blink: . I wouldn't trust Garry to babysit my pet rock.

"Trembler", that's great but you are right so many wussies here that will make you head spin, traitor for one, he could care less about scope. Even the boys that supported Gary are now questioning what he is doing, nothing since Ciabattoni the the compass crowd are dictating what's going to happen, ALPA all over again, this is are only chance time is running out, loved those lines. http://www.operationorange.org/2012/06/a-declaration-of-war/

 

[cleardirect]

They were in favor of the pension giveaway and are shaking in their slippers with fear that the AA merger might slip away. AA voted down their TA while in bankruptcy but the Compass boys will tell us to vote away our scope. Idiots.

Met a trembler three days ago that was worried a "no" vote from us will cause our company to shut the doors... does the moron realize we exited bankruptcy years ago? He's gonna be at the 21st meeting to support Garry :blink: . I wouldn't trust Garry to babysit my pet rock.

Guess you should get that recall on Hummel started to save us all.

Come on you all scream about how bad ALPA was but never did a thing about it. Now you scream about how bad Hummel is. all talk and no action.

 

[Move2CLT]

On the 21st of August, lets all show up to support Gary and show the AA pilots who is the weaker pilot group.

STFU PHX. You guys had your chance with Parker and failed. AOL handed your butts to you. You guys are perpetual failures.

Just sit back and don't do anything to mess this up.

 

[Move2CLT]

This is unnecessary. There is plenty of material to mock in his words and actions. Insulting his appearance is juvenile and mean.

If you saw that gelatinous mass of fat, you'd insult him too.

At least you recognize his stupidity.

 

[Claxon]

They were in favor of the pension giveaway and are shaking in their slippers with fear that the AA merger might slip away. AA voted down their TA while in bankruptcy but the Compass boys will tell us to vote away our scope. Idiots.

Met a trembler three days ago that was worried a "no" vote from us will cause our company to shut the doors... does the moron realize we exited bankruptcy years ago? He's gonna be at the 21st meeting to support Garry :blink: . I wouldn't trust Garry to babysit my pet rock.

Your eastern group is pathetic when it comes to dealing with your management. They seem too stupid to look at the last quarter financials, and tremble at the thoughts of what would happen without AA. You don't need AA. You need to get rid of Parker, and try to spin the western division off as it is a total loser. The westerners are falling all over themselves to be with AA. They are also pathetic. Block Parker at all costs, and you will rid yourselves of him forever. He cannot pull off a merger. He cannot even merge the airline he has now. Oppose an AA merger and Parker and you will prosper, maybe even shed the westerners.

 

[Claxon]

If you saw that gelatinous mass of fat, you'd insult him too.

At least you recognize his stupidity.

He helped lock you out of CLT, so he has served well. Enjoy your potty break in CLT and your disgusting chicken. Then scurry back to your heat riddled hovel in PHX. You are exactly the kind of idiot HP Early loser hired. Do you have the AWA pedigree of a DUI, violations and no college or all three? I suspect a hat trick, you and Nicloser4

 

[luvthe9]

He helped lock you out of CLT, so he has served well. Enjoy your potty break in CLT and your disgusting chicken. Then scurry back to your heat riddled hovel in PHX. You are exactly the kind of idiot HP Early loser hired. Do you have the AWA pedigree of a DUI, violations and no college or all three? I suspect a hat trick, you and Nicloser4

Now now, Move is a very junior angry F/O I guess he did not get the damages the Furguson promised him, poor Move on the verge of a breakdown just like Fodase.

 

[Zone5]

I find find it hard to comprehend how deep the level of disdain and lack of confidence the AMR pilots must have for Horton, if they would rather "roll the dice" with the bankruptcy judge, than try to play ball with AMR management!

There has NEVER been an exit from bankruptcy, by a major airline, where the pilots, did not cut a deal with management , prior to a court imposed contact, NEVER! That say's a lot!

Having said that, I think that the APA is, "getting out of the frying pan, and in to the fire", by getting into bed with "Team Tempe"! In the end, they will "screw" them, just as bad as they have "screwed" all of us!

Believe what you want, but mark my words, we are all going to end up with three pilot groups, with three contracts, with three rates of pay and ONE paint job!

"Dougie" wrote the book on divide and concur, he will somehow, keep the pot stirred and all the pilots fighting each other, all three groups, for as long as possible! We're talking approximately $500,000,00 less in pilot pay, per year! I can't say as I blame him, if I were in his shoes, I would do the same thing, wouldn't you?

This merger is going to happen. As an East guy, the only thing I know for sure is that I will be "screwed", somehow someway, no doubt about it. What you West guys need to understand, is that so will you!

What can any of us do about it? Not much, if anything.

It is what it is.


seajay

 

[A320 Driver]

I find find it hard to comprehend how deep the level of disdain and lack of confidence the AMR pilots must have for Horton, if they would rather "roll the dice" with the bankruptcy judge, than try to play ball with AMR management!

There has NEVER been an exit from bankruptcy, by a major airline, where the pilots, did not cut a deal with management , prior to a court imposed contact, NEVER! That say's a lot!

Having said that, I think that the APA is, "getting out of the frying pan, and in to the fire", by getting into bed with "Team Tempe"! In the end, they will "screw" them, just as bad as they have "screwed" all of us!

Believe what you want, but mark my words, we are all going to end up with three pilot groups, with three contracts, with three rates of pay and ONE paint job!

"Dougie" wrote the book on divide and concur, he will somehow, keep the pot stirred and all the pilots fighting each other, all three groups, for as long as possible! We're talking approximately $500,000,00 less in pilot pay, per year! I can't say as I blame him, if I were in his shoes, I would do the same thing, wouldn't you?

This merger is going to happen. As an East guy, the only thing I know for sure is that I will be "screwed", somehow someway, no doubt about it. What you West guys need to understand, is that so will you!

What can any of us do about it? Not much, if anything.

It is what it is.


seajay

conquer

 

[signals]

This is unnecessary. There is plenty of material to mock in his words and actions. Insulting his appearance is juvenile and mean.

How dare you question Capt. God Almighty whose first commandment is Thou shalt Do what I SAY not As I Do! He will show me and ALL the Easties involved the error of their ways. His holy coming to the east is written in the scriptures of his own mind as he will come to Charlotte and all will be made whole by his Hole-in-@$$ as he brings the plagues of Egypt a reality for all those who oppose him in the east, because USAPA is insignificant, bless his whole-y inflated head.

It is also written that his UHaul will break down but will be fixed on the third day of the third week of the thirteenth month. And when he has reached cruising altitude at 30000 ft. his inflated head will ascend another ten thoudand fleet. Blessed be his Wile E Coyote name...Meep-Beep 😛

It is also written that as he uses a cocktail umbrella as a dropping anvil shield, he will invade the east with an obvious Trojan horse that will be met with ridicule and scorn. Thus he will send his only forgotten son, fodase, who is still in the cornfield, and all will be made whole as Move2CLT becomes StillNPHX.

Bless his unholy name and US without end...
AMEN!

 

[traderjake]

Believe what you want, but mark my words, we are all going to end up with three pilot groups, with three contracts, with three rates of pay and ONE paint job!

If your fantasy were to come true I'll give you one guess which group will have the worst contract and rate of pay.

 

[luvthe9]

From the President's update......Having retained a Professional Negotiator with Roland’s experience and talent, it would be folly not to follow his advice, and foolish are those who have chosen not to do so. This is funny did Roland say it was OK to sneak off to PHX without letting anyone know? So are you foolish or folly? Can't wait for the 21st this is going to be good!!!!!!! This pilot group deserves answers to your behavior.

 

[luvthe9]

If your fantasy were to come true I'll give you one guess which group will have the worst contract and rate of pay.

We are here today because of guys like you plain and simple...

 

[signals]

If your fantasy were to come true I'll give you one guess which group will have the worst contract and rate of pay.

Wake up! APA is playing both of U.

Think...

If APA does get what they want-my guess is guaranteed seniority-do they really give a rat's butt about ALPA or USAPA? Keep living in your screw 'em fantasy.

Unite or die! Fair warning!

 

[luvn737s]

Believe what you want, but mark my words, we are all going to end up with three pilot groups, with three contracts, with three rates of pay and ONE paint job!

This merger is going to happen. As an East guy, the only thing I know for sure is that I will be "screwed", somehow someway, no doubt about it. What you West guys need to understand, is that so will you!

What can any of us do about it? Not much, if anything.

It is what it is.


seajay

So, what you're saying is we should dump USAPA since it's an ineffective waste of money. Had a joint contract been implemented, we would be:
1. Starting from a higher salary base on the next joint contract
2. Starting with an established seniority list that is not subject to litigation
3. Unified enough to have some leverage
4. No furloughed west pilots
5. A significant war chest to draw upon to defend our jobs.

"It is what it is", eh? Is that all the responsibility you want to take for allowing USAPA to leave us stranded where we are?

Weak!