Pilot seniority arbitration award is out

[aquagreen73s]

Unbelievable. 😱 Talk about kicking your opponent when he's down!

The west pilots are asking for it...this is going to turn into war.

And then asset sales.

 

[flynomore]

And then asset sales.

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Duuuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeee

American Western has NEVER owned anything to sell. This is very, very bad people.

Stay focused.

 

[ab320driver]

Milk it while you can....

 

[Phoenix]

And then asset sales.

Asset sales? You got to be joking. Did your calculator break?

USAir pilots are workig for less than anyone else in the industry.


Are you a member of the GAG? 😛

 

[aquagreen73s]

Then, what the heeeeell are we waiting for? Give me a ballot already!

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Labor/wm1383.cfm

Interesting reading about decertification of a union. Not exactly applicable in this case, but what you can gather from the article is how the American worker is no longer represented because of an incestuous relationship between national unions and business. Neither one wants to make waves - just keep the $$$ coming in with little to no labor unrest and everything is fine for them.

 

[Phoenix]

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Labor/wm1383.cfm

Interesting reading about decertification of a union. Not exactly applicable in this case.

Not exactly applicable?! It has nothing to do with this case at all, unless your intent was to throw out some FUD by false association.

Now why would you do that? :down:

 

[aquagreen73s]

Asset sales? You got to be joking. Did your calculator break?

USAir pilots are workig for less than anyone else in the industry.
Are you a member of the GAG? 😛

Doug's only gods are the stockholders. If there were to be "problems" on either coast, I doubt he'd hesitate to fix the problem by getting rid of it. And since you mentioned GAGers, is there a fragmentation clause in LOA 93? I don't know. And even if there were one, I wouldn't expect it to be of much use in stopping management from rolling right over it. Anymore a contract is only enforceable to the extent that it is good for ALPA national or the company. Pilots, like the rest of the American workforce, are working for the benefit of business and their national union - there isn't much anyone can do. The system is set up so nothing can be done. That's the whole idea for keeping the game going. They keep the game going by the perpetual illusion of transparency when in fact, there's all kinds of crap going on behind the curtain. Just ask the Florida voters in 2000.

Not exactly applicable?! It has nothing to do with this case at all, unless your intent was to throw out some FUD by false association.

Now why would you do that? :down:

You're stuck in a national union that doesn't give a rat's a$$ about you, your future or this seniority integration. This should not be a surprise for you. Go ahead and call ALPA national if it makes you feel better.

 

[Phoenix]

Doug's only gods are the stockholders.

Yeah? That is the illusion he presents, but it only lasts as long as it profits him.

The airplanes only goes as fast as the folks with the throttles in their hands want to go. Forecast is a long hot summer.

Fly American.

 

[A320 Driver]

Interesting that the AWA Master Chairman finds the only thing "problematic" is the fact that our A33o and B767 Captains were not stapled to the bottom with most of our F/Os.


Unfrigin real,

A320 Driver (East) :down:

 

[Phoenix]

Go ahead and call ALPA national if it makes you feel better.

Phone call? No need to call. They are calling us.

Hello.

Haven't you been reading about all ALPA's newfound concern for every pilot on the seniority list all the way down to the last guy.

ALPA is starting to ki$$ a$$ again to keep pilots from leaving.

It will be entertaining to see if they succeed.

 

[aquagreen73s]

Yeah? That is the illusion he presents, but it only lasts as long as it profits him.

The airplanes only goes as fast as the folks with the throttles in their hands want to go. Forecast is a long hot summer.

Fly American.

Check Ebay for the PHL operation and Trump Shuttle if results get too out of hand. But look at the fine print which says "Employees not included." It would be easier for ALPA to lose those dues rather than fight decertification. Point is, the American worker has been completely sold out by his union and political leaders (I won't dare say "elected" leaders anymore).

Phone call? No need to call. They are calling us.

Hello.

Haven't you been reading about all ALPA's newfound concern for every pilot on the seniority list all the way down to the last guy.

ALPA is starting to ki$$ a$$ again to keep pilots from leaving.

It will be entertaining to see if they succeed.

Leaving? Where are the pilots going to go? Decertify? Yeah...right. Good luck. Perhaps you should re-read the Heritage article because that was the purpose of posting it.

Old, no outside skills, need a job....ALPA, the company, everyone knows this. You're stuck.

 

[Phoenix]

It would be easier for ALPA to lose those dues rather than fight decertification.

No need for ALPA national to pick one or the other. They are looking at getting both as a one time special deal.

 

[Phoenix]

Old, no outside skills, need a job....ALPA, the company, everyone knows this. You're stuck.

You're a regular comedian. I lost count of how many USAir pilots are CPAs, lawyers, contractors, architects, doctors, military officers, surgeons, developers, etc. supplementing their USAir earnings.

But so what. The Eastern Mechanics were “stuck.â€￾ And somehow I don’t think they are the guys sitting at the traffic light holding a “Will work for food. Please help. God Blessâ€￾ cardboard sign. (who by the way pull in more than half the employees at USAir )

Dougie is gonna pay or he will loose his airline. It is a matter of math. There is a cost and he has plenty of bean counters to figure it out.

In the mean time I would reccomend flying American. 😀

 

[Elevation]

TWO WORDS: BINDING ARBITRATION


"An informal hearing regarding a dispute. The dispute is judged by a group of people (generally three) who have been selected by an impartial panel. Once a decision has been reached, there is no further appeal process."

 

[aquagreen73s]

No need for ALPA national to pick one or the other. They are looking at getting both as a one time special deal.

The game is set up to make the common American resemble a rat on a treadmill. Run on the wheel to pay taxes, pay dues, pay a lot of cut rate health care, then die.