Progress Made in US Airways Talks - AFA Hopes to Achieve Pact Before Thanksgiving
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Progress Made In Us Airways - Afa Talks
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Hundreds Rally for AFA Strike Threat
Union Promises CHAOSâ„¢ if Contracts are Abrogated
PITTSBURGH - Hundreds of flight attendants and their supporters today rallied in Pittsburgh to show support for a decision by their union to call for a nationwide strike in the event that one or more of its contracted carriers abrogates its collective bargaining agreements.
"Flight attendants have been victimized for far too long by the avarice of airline executives, whose first and last instinct when times are tough is to squeeze employees to the breaking point," said Pat Friend, international president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA. "We will not let them break us."
When a job action is implemented, it will take on the form of CHAOS (Create Havoc Around Our System)TM, AFA’s trademarked strike action that allows flight attendants to control airline schedules and operations with intermittent tactics. Flight attendants may stage a mass walkout, as in a traditional strike, for a day or a week, or strike individual flights—with no warning to management or passengers as to time or location.
Yesterday during its annual meeting, the AFA Board of Directors unanimously approved a resolution warning that union self-help is possible once any contract is abrogated. The union has begun the process of polling members at the seven carriers currently in bankruptcy to obtain their authorization for a strike.
"We are calling for a union-wide, nationwide strike, because these attacks on our craft and our contracts are an industry-wide problem," said Friend. "If even one carrier tears up its contract, it gives a green light to its competitors."
More than 46,000 flight attendants join together to form AFA, the world's largest flight attendant union. AFA is part of the 700,000 member strong Communications Workers of America, AFL-CIO. Visit us at www.afanet.org.
Union Promises CHAOSâ„¢ if Contracts are Abrogated
PITTSBURGH - Hundreds of flight attendants and their supporters today rallied in Pittsburgh to show support for a decision by their union to call for a nationwide strike in the event that one or more of its contracted carriers abrogates its collective bargaining agreements.
"Flight attendants have been victimized for far too long by the avarice of airline executives, whose first and last instinct when times are tough is to squeeze employees to the breaking point," said Pat Friend, international president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA. "We will not let them break us."
When a job action is implemented, it will take on the form of CHAOS (Create Havoc Around Our System)TM, AFA’s trademarked strike action that allows flight attendants to control airline schedules and operations with intermittent tactics. Flight attendants may stage a mass walkout, as in a traditional strike, for a day or a week, or strike individual flights—with no warning to management or passengers as to time or location.
Yesterday during its annual meeting, the AFA Board of Directors unanimously approved a resolution warning that union self-help is possible once any contract is abrogated. The union has begun the process of polling members at the seven carriers currently in bankruptcy to obtain their authorization for a strike.
"We are calling for a union-wide, nationwide strike, because these attacks on our craft and our contracts are an industry-wide problem," said Friend. "If even one carrier tears up its contract, it gives a green light to its competitors."
More than 46,000 flight attendants join together to form AFA, the world's largest flight attendant union. AFA is part of the 700,000 member strong Communications Workers of America, AFL-CIO. Visit us at www.afanet.org.
twoturnin
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Ahhhh Wendys now there is a job worth having eh----no more headaches-- no union dues---just show up and flip them there hamburgers--send in those resumes fast !
Baja4U said:Don't hold your breath 320 !!
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Nice attitude! He posts a news release saying progress is being made and this upsets you??? I suppose if he said "Good Morning" you would snap back - "What's good about it!!!???" Gotta love all the hate!
EyeInTheSky
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Flying Titan said:
FlyingTitan, "feeling the love" ain't gonna happen when someone posts in a sociopathic manner.
Crew Membertwoturnin said:
We will be happy to talk with you! Please submit your resume by e-mail, fax, Online Form or mail today!
You are invited to be part of the winning team at Wendy's. We seek customer-oriented individuals to join us part-time. We offer:
Competitive Wages Uniforms Flexible Schedules Training 401(k) Plan Crew Insurance Program Career Advancement Opportunities Meal Discounts No Union Dues and more!
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Wow! That's more than you get at US Airways! MMMMMM, Burgers and fries......just thinking of how Homer Simpson would say it.
Justme said:Crew Member
We will be happy to talk with you! Please submit your resume by e-mail, fax, Online Form or mail today!
You are invited to be part of the winning team at Wendy's. We seek customer-oriented individuals to join us part-time. We offer:
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I read the AFA proposal. The one thing that jumped out at me (or didn't jump out at me) is that it seems that AFA is fighting the "return from furlough C-scale" that the company is asking for.
Is this true? If so, kudos ot the negotiating committee for trying to squash this injustice.
Is this true? If so, kudos ot the negotiating committee for trying to squash this injustice.
Flying Titan said:
At this point in his career of being the Psycho Poster on this board, if he posted the word "boo" he is going to get slammed as well he deserves for his pompous and overbearing attitude toward his fellow employees whom he loves to tell what to do.
A320rubberknees, are you an only child or did your torment your siblings this way too?
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Flight attendants lay strike groundwork
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Progress Made in US Airways Talks - AFA Hopes to Achieve Pact Before Thanksgiving
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DCA AFA LEC president comments:
On November 14, Bob Kenia, LGA AFA LEC president wrote a letter to the rank-and-file union members. Kenia said, On Friday, November 12th, US Airways filed the 1113© motion, which asks the court to reject our collective bargaining agreement. The judge will rule in accordance with the Bankruptcy Code timeline I have outlined below. The judge DOES NOT negotiate a new agreement.
What does that mean? Now that the motion is filed the Company has 14 days (extendable by 7 days) to submit a proposal to the court. After the 14 days (possibly 21) a hearing will commence between the judge, AFA's legal counsel and the Company's counsel. During this hearing the judge would hear arguments from both sides on why the agreements should be rejected and should not be rejected.
If the judge rules in favor of the Company and agrees that the Collective Bargaining AGreement should be rejected the Company has the right to impose an agreement. Management has stated that they will impose the offer they presented to the judge. IF the judge rules in our favor and states (for example) the amount of money being asked for is too high we win, so to speak. If we prevail the Company has the ability to file another motion and propose an agreement with a lesser amount as stated by the judge. This is a very simplistic example but you can see in the end we will be taking large concessions. Remember, the role of the judge is to keep the Company solvent.
Now where have we been with negotiations? If you have not kept up with the MEC E-Line or website (all e-lines are on the website) each proposal and counter proposal is posted on the website. Initially the Company "asked" AFA for $116 million that amount has increased to $150 million. The Company is also asking to terminate our pension plan and will NOT give us any credit towards our "ask" amount. So you can see negotiations are not going well to say the least and the Company will most likely propose the $150 million contract to the judge.
LGA AFA LEC president comments
On November 16, Al Fiore, LGA AFA LEC president wrote a letter to the rank-and-file union members. Fiore said, "The MEC will make every effort to negotiate the best possible tentative contract and then send it out to the membership for a vote. As you can see the Company's proposals are nto acceptable to hte MEC, but the fact that the 1113 filings looms in the background makes expedited negotiations imperative to try and reach some sort of reasonable contract. If this cannot be accomplished, then our fate may end up in the hands of the bankruptcy judge." he said.
USA320Pilot comments:
First the AFA talks about a strike, then they temper their comments in a press release, and local presidents soften their approach even more. Why? AFA leaders know the hand writing is on the wall. There are 5 real business days to negotiate new deals, November 19, 22, 23, 24, and December 1, before the S.1113© hearings begin on December 2. Moreover, with Judge Mitchell going on vacation on December 17 it is safe to say the S.1113© "imposition" could be complete by mid-December, without TA's.
USA320Pilot conlcudes:
If history keeps repeating itself, it would not surpirse me if the next company AFA proposal is worse, the next company CWA proposal is worse, and the IAM proposal(s) get worse too.
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
See Story
Progress Made in US Airways Talks - AFA Hopes to Achieve Pact Before Thanksgiving
See Story
DCA AFA LEC president comments:
On November 14, Bob Kenia, LGA AFA LEC president wrote a letter to the rank-and-file union members. Kenia said, On Friday, November 12th, US Airways filed the 1113© motion, which asks the court to reject our collective bargaining agreement. The judge will rule in accordance with the Bankruptcy Code timeline I have outlined below. The judge DOES NOT negotiate a new agreement.
What does that mean? Now that the motion is filed the Company has 14 days (extendable by 7 days) to submit a proposal to the court. After the 14 days (possibly 21) a hearing will commence between the judge, AFA's legal counsel and the Company's counsel. During this hearing the judge would hear arguments from both sides on why the agreements should be rejected and should not be rejected.
If the judge rules in favor of the Company and agrees that the Collective Bargaining AGreement should be rejected the Company has the right to impose an agreement. Management has stated that they will impose the offer they presented to the judge. IF the judge rules in our favor and states (for example) the amount of money being asked for is too high we win, so to speak. If we prevail the Company has the ability to file another motion and propose an agreement with a lesser amount as stated by the judge. This is a very simplistic example but you can see in the end we will be taking large concessions. Remember, the role of the judge is to keep the Company solvent.
Now where have we been with negotiations? If you have not kept up with the MEC E-Line or website (all e-lines are on the website) each proposal and counter proposal is posted on the website. Initially the Company "asked" AFA for $116 million that amount has increased to $150 million. The Company is also asking to terminate our pension plan and will NOT give us any credit towards our "ask" amount. So you can see negotiations are not going well to say the least and the Company will most likely propose the $150 million contract to the judge.
LGA AFA LEC president comments
On November 16, Al Fiore, LGA AFA LEC president wrote a letter to the rank-and-file union members. Fiore said, "The MEC will make every effort to negotiate the best possible tentative contract and then send it out to the membership for a vote. As you can see the Company's proposals are nto acceptable to hte MEC, but the fact that the 1113 filings looms in the background makes expedited negotiations imperative to try and reach some sort of reasonable contract. If this cannot be accomplished, then our fate may end up in the hands of the bankruptcy judge." he said.
USA320Pilot comments:
First the AFA talks about a strike, then they temper their comments in a press release, and local presidents soften their approach even more. Why? AFA leaders know the hand writing is on the wall. There are 5 real business days to negotiate new deals, November 19, 22, 23, 24, and December 1, before the S.1113© hearings begin on December 2. Moreover, with Judge Mitchell going on vacation on December 17 it is safe to say the S.1113© "imposition" could be complete by mid-December, without TA's.
USA320Pilot conlcudes:
If history keeps repeating itself, it would not surpirse me if the next company AFA proposal is worse, the next company CWA proposal is worse, and the IAM proposal(s) get worse too.
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
Walmartgreeter
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Why do you continue to be such an ass? At least let the F/A's negociate in good faith without your brown nose spin. Always pointing out what the REST of us already know. Greeter.
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Walmartgreeter:
I find in interesting how you insult people, turn off your PM, and do not show your email address on the ALPA message board. Why is that? Are you afraid you may be violating the corporate ethics manual and get terminated? If you're not, you should be.
If you're so unhappy why do you not resign from US Airways?
Regards,
USA320Pilot
I find in interesting how you insult people, turn off your PM, and do not show your email address on the ALPA message board. Why is that? Are you afraid you may be violating the corporate ethics manual and get terminated? If you're not, you should be.
If you're so unhappy why do you not resign from US Airways?
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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