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I'm not sure in my mind why he resonates with the military as well as he does as Obama does well too. Given they are polar opposite politically you wouldn't think they'd do well.

What do you mean "the military"? Just becasue he gets a piss ant amount of money for people who happen to be in "the military" does not mean he resonates with every one in "the military".
 
What do you mean "the military"? Just becasue he gets a piss ant amount of money for people who happen to be in "the military" does not mean he resonates with every one in "the military".

Military men and women don't exactly have the Brinks Truck deliver their paycheck, so when a soldier plunks down his hard earned dollars on a candidate I for one tend to take notice. It's says something about the person running. What it says I've no idea.
 
Military men and women don't exactly have the Brinks Truck deliver their paycheck, so when a soldier plunks down his hard earned dollars on a candidate I for one tend to take notice. It's says something about the person running. What it says I've no idea.

Yes, I know from personal experience that pay checks in the military are not that big. But I would think even a sailor could afford to contribute more that five cents.
 
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Ms Tree,
I lived in an abbuting state, during Mitt's entire reign as Governor of Massachusetts. The next-door state of NH....DETESTED him, and soundly proclaimed him as a DEMOCRAT in Repug clothing.

Ever run into a guy NHBB by chance?.....he used to stop by here once in a while..... :huh:

Ms Tree
As it stands right now that is exactly what I am planning on doing.

You like Obama, that's cool. What is his plan for the next four years? I haven't heard much.

Blame Bush and the Republicans?
 
You like Obama, that's cool. What is his plan for the next four years? I haven't heard much.

Blame Bush and the Republicans?

No I don't like him. I just dislike like him less than what ever the RNC is offering up. 2008 all over again.

Plan? You're kidding right? None of them have a plan. They have stuff they tell you to make the masses vote for them but none of them have a plan much less a plan that work. Besides which, the only way a plan works is if Congress is on board with it. That probably will not happen.
 
No I don't like him. I just dislike like him less than what ever the RNC is offering up. 2008 all over again.

Plan? You're kidding right? None of them have a plan. They have stuff they tell you to make the masses vote for them but none of them have a plan much less a plan that work. Besides which, the only way a plan works is if Congress is on board with it. That probably will not happen.

I hear some ideas, but will take control of both houses to implement.

Pretty bad when Chris Matthews goes off....guess he lost the tingle.
 
Sure, if you consider stuff like 999 an idea.

Its a start from the present scene......it doesn't make you wonder, Obama out there campaigning with no vision of what he wants to achieve or set any goals for his second term? I guess he's going to continue to blame everyone but his self for his lack of leadership. This crap is scary at the least......does he know something we don't and isn't worried about campaigning? No plan for our future.
At least the GOP are attempting something.
 
IM a solid Independent ..... I try and cut through all the BS and find the right guy. I am totally against the Ryan plan. I think I like Newt Gingrich's "Contract with America 2012". Social Security and Medicare is a big issued for me. You can find it on line.

Save Medicare and Social Security by giving Americans more choices and tools to live longer, healthier lives with greater financial independence.

Americans work their entire lives to pay for their hard-earned retirement benefits, and as Americans now enjoy longer and healthier lives than ever, these benefits must be protected and made even stronger.

I reject the idea that we can solve our budget and debt crisis by some combination of cutting benefits and raising taxes within the current framework of these two programs. Instead, we need to think outside the box with fundamental, structural reforms that would transform and modernize these two programs, changing how they work to achieve their goals. Any American who wants to enter or remain in the existing Medicare and Social Security programs will be able to do so, but we will also introduce optional alternatives that give Americans more control over their health and retirement.

I look forward to having a discussion with Americans about new legislation that will increase the control that Americans have over their retirement options, while also
dramatically reducing costs. Instead of tax and spend redistribution, I propose that new legislation reforms our entitlement programs so that they can benefit from modern capital, labor, and insurance markets to achieve their goals, with positive, pro-growth incentives to reinforce and further economic growth, rather than counterproductively subtract from it.

If we do this right we can achieve the goal of ensuring a secure and healthy retirement for all, far better and more effectively, at just a fraction of the cost of the current, outdated, counterproductive entitlement programs.

Any American who wants to enjoy the existing Medicare and Social Security systems will be able to do so. At the same time, this legislation will provide Americans with new options. It will offer voluntary market-oriented alternatives that allow Americans to take more control of their own retirement planning.

As more Americans move voluntarily onto the new market-oriented systems, costs will naturally decline.

Medicare

First, stop paying the crooks. An estimated $70 to $120 billion a year is paid to crooks by Medicare and Medicaid. This is the best place to save money at no cost to honest people.

My proposed legislation will offer seniors new choices in Medicare, as well. It will give them the option to choose, on a voluntary basis, either to remain on the existing program, or to transition to a more personalized system in the private sector with greater options for better care. If they select the personalized system, beneficiaries would receive support to cover their private sector premiums. Giving all seniors the option to choose their insurance provider will improve price competition and help lower costs for the program.

Social Security

As president, I will act to strengthen Social Security. My administration will never hold Social Security payments hostage as a bargaining chip against political opponents, as President Obama did in the summer of 2011.

As more Americans live longer and healthier lives, strengthening Social Security also means creating new options for younger Americans. We must therefore consider a voluntary option for younger Americans to put a portion of their Social Security contributions into personal Social Security savings accounts. Other countries, such as Chile, have found that this model creates vast savings while giving beneficiaries more control over when and how they plan to retire.

There are many exciting solutions that will both strengthen Social Security and Medicare while tapping the private sector to save costs, and I look forward to discussing these with Americans over the next year.
 
One big thing about ol' NEWT. For everything he's FOR now, there's Older (say) Meet-the-Press tapes with him tub thumping the exact opposite ! 😱
 
One big thing about ol' NEWT. For everything he's FOR now, there's Older (say) Meet-the-Press tapes with him tub thumping the exact opposite ! 😱

In all fairness to Newt there is only ONE candidate who has held true to his principles for 30 plus years and that's Ron Paul. You can throw in Obama too and it's still Ron Paul.

Agree with Dr. Paul or don't but his message is/was/will be unchanged and that ought to count for something.
 
In all fairness to Newt there is only ONE candidate who has held true to his principles for 30 plus years and that's Ron Paul. You can throw in Obama too and it's still Ron Paul.

Agree with Dr. Paul or don't but his message is/was/will be unchanged and that ought to count for something.

As I am a registered Independent, I don't get a say in GOP nominations. I would vote for Ron Paul though.
Any of the other yahoos get the ticket then I'll have to throw my vote away.
Newt IMHO is absolutely as snake.
B) xUT
 
As I am a registered Independent, I don't get a say in GOP nominations. I would vote for Ron Paul though.
Any of the other yahoos get the ticket then I'll have to throw my vote away.
Newt IMHO is absolutely as snake.
B) xUT

His words and Deeds speak for themselves. No need for me to interrupt.
 
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