RNC

[Keroseneuser]

Still time to give obama his pink slip. He has failed completly. Time to let somebody else see what they can do with the mess.

 

[delldude]

Michael Moore watched. He said we should start practicing saying the words "President Romney".

He's coming over for the food they steal from the mouths of democratic babies.

 

[Kev3188]

Watched it last night. Romney said about what i expected him to say.

+1 Anyone that still thinks these speeches are about substance is delusional.

IMO, Romney's speech was a lot of rhetoric and dog whistle politics that pander to his base. Obama's will be the same, with possibly a bit more eloquence.

Eastwood while clearly showing his advanced age in his adlibbed speech said two things that ring true. "We (the citizens of U.S.) own this country" and "If the elected officials don't do the job it's time to let them go"

Concur on both points. I'm not sure the powers that be agree, though.

I do find it comical that everytime the "You didn't build your business, Gov't did" speech comes up in a political show/interview a dem jumps up and says "He didn't say that!"

I find it comical that the right howls about a quote taken out of context while holding a convention in a building mostly paid for with public dollars.

To me it's painfully clear that while probably meaning well Obama does not have a clue how to fix the issues we face. It's time for him to go.

I think he has a plan, but has run into people only interested in obstructing him from carrying it out. My fault w/Obama isn't that he doesn't have a clue (I think he does), but rather that he's spent too much time trying to appease the group across the aisle who have made it clear they can't stand him.

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Like wanting a small government yet wanting government to control every aspect of peoples private lives? hee hee.

Julias and Flukes most affected.

 

[Kev3188]

Julia?

 

[delldude]

I think he has a plan, but has run into people only interested in obstructing him from carrying it out. My fault w/Obama isn't that he doesn't have a clue (I think he does), but rather that he's spent too much time trying to appease the group across the aisle who have made it clear they can't stand him.

That's what spawned the 'get in the back' or' I'm in charge deal with it' or 'or 'you lost' comments early on in his failed presidency?

 

[Kev3188]

Kinda like the "you lie!" comments... or the stated goal of making him a 1 term president...

The way I see it, the problem is he backed off. McConnell, Boehner, et al only got worse...

 

[777 fixer]

Please see if you can find the difference between the federal income tax rate and the capital gains tax rate ! Not saying it fair or right, but there it is !

So your saying it's wrong that you are paying a greater percentage of your income in taxes than Mitt Romney? Assuming of course that you are and are not on of those freeloaders who are mooching off the rest of us. It makes you either fool or a moocher.

 

[delldude]

She has changed quite a bit.

"I do say that I am in favor of the return of the guillotine and that is for the worst of the worst of the guilty.

"I first would allow the guilty bankers to pay, you know, the ability to pay back anything over $100 million [of] personal wealth because I believe in a maximum wage of $100 million. And if they are unable to live on that amount of that amount then they should, you know, go to the reeducation camps and if that doesn't help, then being beheaded," Barr said with a straight face.

 

[777 fixer]

Love the way Barrack and his posse push class warfare using Buffett and his secretary as an example, but they "NEVER" mention they're taxes are based on different types of taxes..............yeah Kev, not only do you, apparently, endorse class warfare and pitting Americans against each other, as long as it's your boy doing it, it's also ok to lie about it !

Why is it when someone says we should close a loophole or raise the top income tax bracket people like you repeat teh talk radio/Fox News mantra "CLASS WARFARE!" Yet when the middle class is on the recieving end of class warfare you are either silent or say idiotic things like "that's the way it is, to bad. Here's a news flash for you, the same thing could happen to you as has happened to many other people in this country.

Here's a quote for you.

We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. [...] Do you think the millionaire ought to pay more in taxes than the bus driver or less?

I sugest you look up who said it before calling this person a socialist or something equally as stupid.

 

[delldude]

Why is it when someone says we should close a loophole or raise the top income tax bracket people like you repeat teh talk radio/Fox News mantra "CLASS WARFARE!" Yet when the middle class is on the recieving end of class warfare you are either silent or say idiotic things like "that's the way it is, to bad. Here's a news flash for you, the same thing could happen to you as has happened to many other people in this country.

Here's a quote for you.

We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. [...] Do you think the millionaire ought to pay more in taxes than the bus driver or less?

I sugest you look up who said it before calling this person a socialist or something equally as stupid.

Bonzo at his best.
You and I know tax structure is effed up. Question is what can we do?
As with other campaigns, there's talk of changing it, we'll see.
You know what jerks me more than Romney @ 15%?
GE at zero.

 

[delldude]

Still haven't heard from anyone who watched the show.

Better than a Super Bowl. Me Me Me Me Me

 

[Hello3B]

So your saying it's wrong that you are paying a greater percentage of your income in taxes than Mitt Romney? Assuming of course that you are and are not on of those freeloaders who are mooching off the rest of us. It makes you either fool or a moocher.

Romney paid what he has to according to the tax code. Do you blame him? If I made the same money i would try to minimize my tax burden also. We all do. I bet his 13% is way more than my 15%.

 

[southwind]

#1 The 23% tax would replace just under 23% of imbedded taxes already there...........basically a wash

Maybe not... It's 23% of every $100...that means a $77 dollar item costs $100

That is more like 30%

Iit has to be adjusted every year

Wanna bet it never goes down?

Where the hell did 30% come from...........oh, fuzzy math ! What's keeping Barrack from raising taxes now, besides the fact he's seeking re-election !

Keep your current, bloated tax plolicies, if your happy with them then , but don't b!tch about the guy making more than you !

 

[southwind]

#1 The 23% tax would replace just under 23% of imbedded taxes already there...........basically a wash


Mathmetically... How will having to pay the tax upfront affect people's behavior? Please don't say they'll all go on doing what they do now.

I think it has merit. I think emphasizing fiscal conservatism, thrift, saving over consumption, etc. would be good.

Question, at what cost to the economy.

I have bought exactly zero new cars, or houses, or most other big ticket items in the 35 years i have been working and supporting myself. (since I was 17, btw, your "benefactor " comment aside....). Obviously, somebody has to, eventually, but what effect would this have on the overall economy?

I still want to know who is pushing this. Where is the Big Money coming from?

Learning that answer re an effort to establish a flat tax in Missouri, made it suddenly verrry clear who was going to benefit.

American citizens are pushing this !

Mathematically= your fuzzy math !

Again the prebate check is based on your income, i.e. the more you make, the smaller your prebate check, which is baesd on the current poverty level, just like everything today. Not sure of your current financial situation, but you might receive a check for $00.00, which in that case you would pay taxes, out of your pocket, for basic needs !

Sorry, you don't buy many new items, but that means more power in "Your" hands ! The problem is getting politicians on-board , because it means less control for them if our tax guidelines are simplified and harder for them to bury crap in behemoth of a tax code they enjoy today !

I'm done selling this for now. Do your own homework, I've provided links and books for you! Or........ stand on the sidelines and grab your ankles ! I believe Da Man, ran out of vaseline a long time ago !