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To Riceweevel:

The ibt pension plans are made up of trustees who make the decisions on the direction of each pension plan. Half are appointed ibt officers and the other half are from the vesting employers.
 
gtd said:
To Riceweevel:

The ibt pension plans are made up of trustees who make the decisions on the direction of each pension plan. Half are appointed ibt officers and the other half are from the vesting employers.
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I think "facts" may not matter to this ibt organizer.
 
gtd, there was a question earlier by Buck I believe. Can you enlighten us about the IBt check offs you have? Is it more than just dues?
 
RV4 said:
I think "facts" may not matter to this ibt organizer.
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No, AMFA LIES ARE ALL THAT MATTERS ON THIS FORUM.
The Central States Pension Fund is Regulated by Federal Laws and not "RULED BY THE IBT" as people are implying on this thread.
It is a joint IBT represented employee/employer fund.

STATEMENT OF YOUR RIGHTS UNDER ERISA
As a Participant in the Plan, you are entitled to certain rights and protections under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA). ERISA provides that all Plan Participants shall be entitled to the following:
  • Examine, without charge, at the Plan Administrator's office and at other locations (worksites and union halls) all Plan Documents, including insurance contracts and copies of all documents filed by the Plan with the U. S. Department of Labor, such as annual reports and Plan descriptions. For information on obtaining or examining your Collective Bargaining Agreement, contact your Local Union or the Fund.

  • Obtain copies of all Plan Documents and other Plan information upon written request to the Plan Administrator. The Administrator may make a reasonable charge for the copies.

  • Receive a summary of the Plan's Annual Financial Report. The Plan Administrator is required by law to furnish each Participant with a copy of this summary financial report.
  • File suit in a federal court if any materials requested are not received within 30 days of your request (unless the materials were not sent because of matters beyond the control of the Administrator). The court may require the Plan Administrator to pay up to $100 for each day's delay until the materials are received.
 
We can at AA not sign a dues check off card and pay by personal check or cash.

Can you do that at the IBT because I will never have them take $$$ from my check..

Never will I allow the IBT to manage my AA pension. They have enough trouble with the pensions they have now at some locals.

Time to rid AA of the TWU..
 
riceweevil said:
No, AMFA LIES ARE ALL THAT MATTERS ON THIS FORUM.
The Central States Pension Fund is Regulated by Federal Laws and not "RULED BY THE IBT" as people are implying on this thread.
It is a joint IBT represented employee/employer fund.

STATEMENT OF YOUR RIGHTS UNDER ERISA
As a Participant in the Plan, you are entitled to certain rights and protections under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA). ERISA provides that all Plan Participants shall be entitled to the following:
  • Examine, without charge, at the Plan Administrator's office and at other locations (worksites and union halls) all Plan Documents, including insurance contracts and copies of all documents filed by the Plan with the U. S. Department of Labor, such as annual reports and Plan descriptions. For information on obtaining or examining your Collective Bargaining Agreement, contact your Local Union or the Fund.

  • Obtain copies of all Plan Documents and other Plan information upon written request to the Plan Administrator. The Administrator may make a reasonable charge for the copies.

  • Receive a summary of the Plan's Annual Financial Report. The Plan Administrator is required by law to furnish each Participant with a copy of this summary financial report.
  • File suit in a federal court if any materials requested are not received within 30 days of your request (unless the materials were not sent because of matters beyond the control of the Administrator). The court may require the Plan Administrator to pay up to $100 for each day's delay until the materials are received.
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If this is true then how come its in the RED
 
AMFAinMIAMI said:
If this is true then how come its in the RED
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You provide me evidence of a DEFINED BENEFIT PENSION PLAN that currently has more assets than liabilities.[without a FED GOV Bailout]
In fact the AA Defined Benefit Plan is about 16 billion dollars UNDERFUNDED.
 
You and some of the other IBT supporters brought up the pension I just asked why its in the red? So you are admitting that the IBT pension is in trouble? AA pension maybe underfunded as well but that is because the TWU has made no effort over the yrs to have language to insure that AA keep it closer to being funded.

So the IBT is no better than the TWU.

AMFA does not have a pension, so you cant attack that.
Most companies are doing away with pensions in lieu of 401K.

The issue is are you fed up with the TWU?

If so bash the TWU.. Get what ever support you can for the union you support, we'll take it to a vote and see who wins. SIMPLE

Unless your are just working with the TWU to dilute the card count so that you can keep the TWU. If that is the case just admitt it.
Don't spout off about how bad AMFA is have you ever worked any other place other than AA? If not than you don't know.

I have worked for 5 airlines Now. All are gone I rode them all into the dirt. Got nothing to show from since you had to have 10yrs to be vested when I started and the others just did not make it.
 
SWA has a 401k at 9% matching.
 
riceweevil said:
No, AMFA LIES ARE ALL THAT MATTERS ON THIS FORUM.
The Central States Pension Fund is Regulated by Federal Laws and not "RULED BY THE IBT" as people are implying on this thread.
It is a joint IBT represented employee/employer fund.

STATEMENT OF YOUR RIGHTS UNDER ERISA
As a Participant in the Plan, you are entitled to certain rights and protections under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA). ERISA provides that all Plan Participants shall be entitled to the following:
  • Examine, without charge, at the Plan Administrator's office and at other locations (worksites and union halls) all Plan Documents, including insurance contracts and copies of all documents filed by the Plan with the U. S. Department of Labor, such as annual reports and Plan descriptions. For information on obtaining or examining your Collective Bargaining Agreement, contact your Local Union or the Fund.

  • Obtain copies of all Plan Documents and other Plan information upon written request to the Plan Administrator. The Administrator may make a reasonable charge for the copies.

  • Receive a summary of the Plan's Annual Financial Report. The Plan Administrator is required by law to furnish each Participant with a copy of this summary financial report.
  • File suit in a federal court if any materials requested are not received within 30 days of your request (unless the materials were not sent because of matters beyond the control of the Administrator). The court may require the Plan Administrator to pay up to $100 for each day's delay until the materials are received.
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What you refuse to face is the FACT that the teamsters DO CONTROL the CBAs that determine pension plan PARTICIPATION.

Again meet Fred Gegare. He ran against Hoffa in the most recent ibt Presidential election, he was also previously involved in the Central States Plan.

This is exactly what you should fear at AA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6sMMGkAIAU
 
You amfa supporters are seriously harming your cause and CREDIBILITY by attacking and LYING about the IBT. Keep it up and you won't have any chance of winning an election at AA.
 
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