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US 807 CLT-PHX-HNL today...and tomorrow

Flight 807 NONSTOP service from CLT to HNL has just diverted to PHX again today and is on the ground there right now refueling! What the heck is Tempe doing????
And, I just flew in from PHL-SFO last night and beat schedule because of light headwinds.....'headwinds' are not the problem......

Another Tempe MASTERPIECE!!!
 
NO! ! ! ! It can't be. It's not their fault. Don't you know it never is? We're just a bunch of whining, complaining, unhappy employees? They do feel as if they have Jedi powers waiving their hand in front of you though huh? It is due to headwinds.....you believe it is due to headwinds. 🙄
 
There has been a focus in this industry to take seats out of the air over the past 2 years or so. Part of this was a survival move because of the incredible fuel prices in 2008.

However, part of this effort was to create less available seats in order to hopefully increase the yield (price) on the remaining seats. This is a flawed theory that will not work. Leisure travelers will travel if the price is right and stay on the ground if an airline ticket price is above their comfort zone. (whatever price that may be)

Business travelers will go when they have to go. The problem during a recession is that many businesses are not doing business and they don't have to go. When the recession is over, the business people will be back.

The end result is that this airline has had problems right sizing routes (and aircraft) between popular cities and the hubs.

While it might be acceptable to cut flights down to the secondary cities during this recession, it doesn't make sense on the heavy traveled routes. With the system in place now, one flight can cancel and that can (and does) strand US passengers for days while agents search for empty seats on other flights to put the stranded customers on. Of course there aren't many empty seats available because the yield management department puts the empty seats on priceline every morning. (This would make sense if there really was excess capacity) The rubber band is wound so tight and there is no room left to handle the exceptions, changes and diversions.

This creates customer satisfaction issues which leads to unhappy customers complaining to unhappy and frustrated and powerless employees. In the end one one wins.

With all that being said, I do find it remarkable that US is able to fly thousands of flights each and every day, safely and mostly on time.

The bottom line is that 90% of everything needed is in place. It's that last 10% that keeps this airline from being at the top of the game.
 
This makes me so excited about my flight to HNL Wed. Thanks, Tempe, for :censored: up what was to be an exciting trip!! :rant:
 
As an addition, I have already decided to expect the worst and hope for the better, but if any of you think I'm charging a darn thing to our passengers for this mess if we divert, think again!
 
'US Air spokesman Andrew Christie said a renewed commitment to listening to customer feedback through a committee of senior-level employees largely has contributed to the improvements.'

Did they consider having customers on the committee?

Or, is it just senior-level employees doing the 'we're so smart' rumba?
 
US AIRWAYS WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUCE A NEW FLIGHT TO THE ISLANDS!!! :up:

FLIGHT 807 CLT to HNL NON STOP *





















































Not all flights will arive without stopping for fuel *






























Every flight will stop for fuel, this isn't really a non stop , thank you for flying us airways .
 
Of course it's a pax inconvenience having to travel on a 767 to Europe knowing they had booked an A-330, but just in the interim, it would help the situation out.

This is the Ma and Pa Kettle airline. Do you think they would really know the difference if someone didn't point it out to them. They all think they're on a Boeing 747 anyway, since the only other thing is a Piper Cub. (We have those, too, but most of us call them Dash 8s.)
 
You know it really makes me sick to read how so many here make it seem perfectly ok to screw the ma/pa kettle low yield passenger just because they don't pay as much for their ticket. This is not about the price of a ticket. This is about delivering a product. This is a NONSTOP FLIGHT and most book through CLT to not HAVE to stop or layover TWICE!! Guess what? We have FAILED the CUSTOMER!!

Many have saved up for this once in a lifetime trip. Many of the passengers AND crews are making their first journey to Hawaii EVER and this company gets things off on the WRONG FOOT and many of you DEFEND IT?!?!?! The more I hear crap like this the more I side with those that hate our company!!
 
They KNEW going into this that the plane would run into difficulty if the winds/weather were beyond a certain point. They know the limits of the 767er owned by US.

From what I understand, the 767-200ERs US has can make the CLT-HNL trip without a problem. However, the planes are not certified for an MTOW that would allow US to put more fuel on in CLT. I'm curious what the cost would be to get the proper paperwork so these planes can be used to their max.
 
My wife and I are booked on this flight in early February with a (separately booked) connecting flight on HA from HNL to OGG departing @ 16:46. If these diversion continue, there's no way we can make our connecting filght. Any idea what US will do for us if this happens? It's not helping that 807 keeps leaving CLT late. One last question, why does seat 3C not show up on the seating charts?
 
My wife and I are booked on this flight in early February with a (separately booked) connecting flight on HA from HNL to OGG departing @ 16:46. If these diversion continue, there's no way we can make our connecting filght. Any idea what US will do for us if this happens? It's not helping that 807 keeps leaving CLT late. One last question, why does seat 3C not show up on the seating charts?


3C may be the contractually allotted pilot crew rest seat in the Envoy Cabin?
 
From what I understand, the 767-200ERs US has can make the CLT-HNL trip without a problem. However, the planes are not certified for an MTOW that would allow US to put more fuel on in CLT. I'm curious what the cost would be to get the proper paperwork so these planes can be used to their max.
Thats just it. They KNEW that before starting the route. See what we're saying? It runs into problems with strong headwinds. Funny though that the headwinds were not bad. Ask some working flights from the west coast if they made it home expeditiously due to a high tailwind. I bet it was normal. :lol:

As for 3C yes it's the pilots crew rest.
 

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