US Airways to be one of the first domestic launch partners for A350
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nycbusdriver
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Great pictures! But let's remember what the word "concept" means from the industrial viewpoint. It means that these are possiblities. And I truly believe that the "concepts" in the pictures could very well be true...for the A350 that the Emir of Abu Dhabi might order for his own personal jet.
NOTHING like this will be ordered by any US carrier.
Go take a peek at our A330 interiors. That's what the A350 interiors will largely look like when they are delivered for service.
NOTHING like this will be ordered by any US carrier.
Go take a peek at our A330 interiors. That's what the A350 interiors will largely look like when they are delivered for service.
Well, much like concept cars you can go ooooh and ahhh over at the major auto shows, many ideas from the concept do filter down into the production model.
Are we going to see a bar with seating, hmmm, probably not. But I do think that many of the ideas that are hinted at in this concept will end up as "standard" on the final product.
Fact is, that is Boeing is going to make a real effort to have a more spacious feeling to the cabin and entrance, and use lighting to enhance the experience for the traveller then Airbus will follow suit (or try to outdo).
What they are talking about is not super high tech, nor that difficult or expensive to engineer into the final product.
International long haul is where the focus is going to be for both US Airways and every other Hub/Spoke carrier, and much like cruise ship design has evolved to include what some consider "gimmicks" (Bowling alley, skating rinks, wave surfer, rock climbing walls) so will long range aircraft...
Will it look just like this, probably not. Will it look something along these lines... There's a good chance that some of the more practical ones will. No doubt that overhead space is going to be increased for example.
Trust me, long haul is a world's difference than a 2-3 hour flight on the east coast. Anything that makes the aircraft seem roomier and a better atmosphere is welcome.
Compare the recently designed cabin of the E-170/190 to the older "RJ" designs, or even the coach classes of the larger narrowbody airliners. The "small" design differences of larger windows, cabin layout, and lighting created a fairly comfortable experience that WAS noticed by our customers.
Same thing, just on a larger scale...
Are we going to see a bar with seating, hmmm, probably not. But I do think that many of the ideas that are hinted at in this concept will end up as "standard" on the final product.
Fact is, that is Boeing is going to make a real effort to have a more spacious feeling to the cabin and entrance, and use lighting to enhance the experience for the traveller then Airbus will follow suit (or try to outdo).
What they are talking about is not super high tech, nor that difficult or expensive to engineer into the final product.
International long haul is where the focus is going to be for both US Airways and every other Hub/Spoke carrier, and much like cruise ship design has evolved to include what some consider "gimmicks" (Bowling alley, skating rinks, wave surfer, rock climbing walls) so will long range aircraft...
Will it look just like this, probably not. Will it look something along these lines... There's a good chance that some of the more practical ones will. No doubt that overhead space is going to be increased for example.
Trust me, long haul is a world's difference than a 2-3 hour flight on the east coast. Anything that makes the aircraft seem roomier and a better atmosphere is welcome.
Compare the recently designed cabin of the E-170/190 to the older "RJ" designs, or even the coach classes of the larger narrowbody airliners. The "small" design differences of larger windows, cabin layout, and lighting created a fairly comfortable experience that WAS noticed by our customers.
Same thing, just on a larger scale...
when Allegheny asked why all posts have to be negative, I think he was replying to the comments about duct tape and bankruptcy, etc .not your comment. It's not all about you, ya know.
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My comments on using Duct Tape to repair fantasy items on the proposed A350 are based on historical fact.
The A350 will NEVER see an interior like what's being shown while in service with USAirways...it's simply not feasable. I fully understand that this is conceptual..and unless you are the Sultan of Brunai..it will largely remain that way.
USAirways and even HP are both guilty of not maintaining clean airplanes..and Temp Repairs for fluff items take place more often than not on both sides...and this goes back to the best days when the current A330-300 were first obtained and before.
Some people that love to drink the Kool-Aid on these boards are nothing more than dreamers...but those of us that know the harsh realities of this business and how Money and Logistics force you to respond to things in less than desirable ways are nothing but negative . So be it. I'm living in the real world...and history backs up my views , time and time again.
U has had a history of problems maintaining fluff items like the fancy seats in the A330...and even simple things like the power ports on the narrow body fleet..So what makes anyone in their right mind think that the A350 or any other future type with whimsy fluff items installed would handled any differently?
Go ahead dreamers , Kool-aid drinkers..and trustee's of modern chemistry. Take your best shot at facts that you cannot dispute. Fact based history and the limitations of money and time are on my side.
The A350 will NEVER see an interior like what's being shown while in service with USAirways...it's simply not feasable. I fully understand that this is conceptual..and unless you are the Sultan of Brunai..it will largely remain that way.
USAirways and even HP are both guilty of not maintaining clean airplanes..and Temp Repairs for fluff items take place more often than not on both sides...and this goes back to the best days when the current A330-300 were first obtained and before.
Some people that love to drink the Kool-Aid on these boards are nothing more than dreamers...but those of us that know the harsh realities of this business and how Money and Logistics force you to respond to things in less than desirable ways are nothing but negative . So be it. I'm living in the real world...and history backs up my views , time and time again.
U has had a history of problems maintaining fluff items like the fancy seats in the A330...and even simple things like the power ports on the narrow body fleet..So what makes anyone in their right mind think that the A350 or any other future type with whimsy fluff items installed would handled any differently?
Go ahead dreamers , Kool-aid drinkers..and trustee's of modern chemistry. Take your best shot at facts that you cannot dispute. Fact based history and the limitations of money and time are on my side.
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Because misery loves company. Ignore those negative peeps that brings you down! It's not about them, it's about you. So start paying attention to how you feel. Joy, success, happiness will be yours immediately, and everything else that you have ever thought would make you happy, will start flowing, seemingly effortlessly, into your experience. Just go with the flow on what feels best for you! Gratitude is one thing! As plato once said, when you feel grateful, you feel great, when you feel great, great things comes to you.
Just put those that brings you down in your ignore list. Keep your chin up and don't take it personally when someone brings you down. Just keep going forward, don't let their negativity suck your positive energy. I agree with you, in 5 years I see US as profitable and successful like Southwest. 🙂
I agree, those pictures are great, I especially love the skylight and moodlighting! I think that's therapeutic. I enjoyed them. 🙂
Since we are putting in our "orders", I'll take much larger windows please... larger drink glasses..and a menu in coach...thank you B) and if you can provide a pool, that would be better than "rock climbing" inflight... 😛
...and if you are having a bad make-up day, the lighting on the right would just suck....
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They're negative because they can't handle reality or the truth.
Not to mention the horrible colors! 😀
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I,m sorry I missed your point.
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Kool Aide, hmmmmmmmmm 🙂
Look, I will agree with you that the past has been less than stellar, but the past is just that.
Fact is that if we want to be competitive in the future international marketplace, we will have to offer a decent product. Not just a cattle car that travels a long ways. What you are complaining about has less to do with the airline, and more to do with the manufacturer. New designs (by nature) tend to evolve from what was the standard in earlier fleet types. Compare a 777 vs a 767 and you can see many improvements in all areas, including cabin design.
You can laugh off installing digital video systems, or onboard high speed internet access (or many other things that are uncommon today, but will become commonplace tommorrow) as unnessesary and unlikely. But many would have thought all leather seats in coach was unlikely too, now that trend is becoming the new norm.
I fail to see what the heck is so revolutionary about gearing the design towards a more roomy feel. Nothing shown was outlandish or that much of a technological leap.
Name one thing that was proposed that was too unrealistic (other than the bar). Lighting that makes it look like clouds and stars, please... That's just a simple pattern filter imposed upon the light casing. Lights embedded into the floor...? Already have them in the form of escape path lighting. Opaque "Glass" separating the cabins from one another, again not a big stretch.
Like I said before, if Boeing is selling hundreds of 787's with updated interior design, then you can bet your bottom dollar that Airbus will build em that way as well.
It is a pretty good indication that if Airbus is already spending millions for a conceptual design, to gain new ideas and customer feedback, then that is the direction they are headed.
Take a look at the pictures as what they are, just a "what if".. Rather than just another opportunity to complain already.
Look, I will agree with you that the past has been less than stellar, but the past is just that.
Fact is that if we want to be competitive in the future international marketplace, we will have to offer a decent product. Not just a cattle car that travels a long ways. What you are complaining about has less to do with the airline, and more to do with the manufacturer. New designs (by nature) tend to evolve from what was the standard in earlier fleet types. Compare a 777 vs a 767 and you can see many improvements in all areas, including cabin design.
You can laugh off installing digital video systems, or onboard high speed internet access (or many other things that are uncommon today, but will become commonplace tommorrow) as unnessesary and unlikely. But many would have thought all leather seats in coach was unlikely too, now that trend is becoming the new norm.
I fail to see what the heck is so revolutionary about gearing the design towards a more roomy feel. Nothing shown was outlandish or that much of a technological leap.
Name one thing that was proposed that was too unrealistic (other than the bar). Lighting that makes it look like clouds and stars, please... That's just a simple pattern filter imposed upon the light casing. Lights embedded into the floor...? Already have them in the form of escape path lighting. Opaque "Glass" separating the cabins from one another, again not a big stretch.
Like I said before, if Boeing is selling hundreds of 787's with updated interior design, then you can bet your bottom dollar that Airbus will build em that way as well.
It is a pretty good indication that if Airbus is already spending millions for a conceptual design, to gain new ideas and customer feedback, then that is the direction they are headed.
Take a look at the pictures as what they are, just a "what if".. Rather than just another opportunity to complain already.
allegheny37
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You know, the last time I was called that, it was about the "Fact" that this airline was just about to close it's doors forever, and no chance whatsoever existed for a future, let alone a bright one. I would care to bet that you were one of the many that predicted our demise Phantom.
Your "fact based history" is nothing more than your own pessimistic glass half-empty view. Get a grip. This is a concept, meant to explore new design ideas under the "limitations of money and time"... Duh.
The reason I can stay optimistic and open towards the possibilites of the future, is that I have seen bigger messes turn themsleves around to become great (Continental). So leave the chip in the past instead of on your shoulder, and admit that it IS possible that good things (including a newly designed cabin on a newly designed aircraft) can happen here.
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What would you rather talk about 700...the "thugs" in PHL?? Now there is a optimistic subject! 
