US pilot labor thread 6/28-7/4

[ableoneable]

Know what? there was a time when I woulda entertained your suggestion.

Now...I don't give a $hitzkie what it looks like...I say

I have done my time, I owe you nothing....if you feel pain, welcome to my world.

You get nothing from me....and I you..as you have masterfully stated...

Goodbye...good luck....good riddance.

I hope you have a union to rely on...I do....

LOL,

I could not have gotten a more typical response.

"I would respond to your argument but it and you are beneath me so good riddance."

"I will now pick up my little red ball and stomp away from the playground."

"Good day sir."



Classic East.

 

[luvn737s]

The same could be said of you. Imagine what could be accomplished. Instead your only goal in life is to see us fail. Amazing, isn't it?

No, my goal is a pilot group united behind fair principals that exclude no one and harnessing that strength for the betterment of ALL US pilots.

Exorcising USAPA is step one.

USAPA holds the ability to settle the civil war that Bradford started, but he feels there is more to be gained with a divided pilot group. Do you agree, or don't you care? It's one or the other.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Why do you think that the company would agree to changing the 190 rate?

Did I say that? When did I say that? What I said was that the contract is OPEN by mutual consent of the company and the union. I have no idea who will agree to what, but I do know that everything is, in theory, on the table right now and that includes the E190 rates.

And maybe the company will want the combined contract badly enough to give something on the E190 rates. I don't KNOW that, but I know it's possible. It's also possible that the union might accede to LOA 93 for everybody until the day you retire. I doubt it, but it's on the table.

 

[ableoneable]

AoneA: I'll repost this for your edification.



I guess you missed this earlier.

No, I saw it and it proves my point.

I was not on DCO yet ALPA seemed able to send me a monthly bill based on actual earnings, not some wild assed guess.

Was ALPA's psychic better than USAPA's or did they get data the USAPA seems unable to find?

 

[luvn737s]

No, I saw it and it proves my point.

I was not on DCO yet ALPA seemed able to send me a monthly bill based on actual earnings, not some wild assed guess.

Was ALPA's psychic better than USAPA's or did they get data the USAPA seems unable to find?

And do you think they will pay interest on any overbilling? Why should they try to be accurate (up until the time to terminate someone and then they have to be VERRRRYYY Accurate).

USAPA - The cheap imitation of ALPA

 

[elixir]

Alright Elixer, you talk big, let's see you back it up.

Please explain to all of us in board land how reducing the wages of the west group, (same craft and class), to redistribute the wealth to the east group is an example of USAPPA fairly representing the interests of both groups?

Thanks for asking...
they don't have to...and thats the beauty of it.

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As it stands, the west has handed their futures over to the East....

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your collective absencia says it all...

 

[nycbusdriver]

The west has danced with this management crowd for many years and knows their style. They don't do anything that doesn't benefit them directly.

Again, it will be fun to watch. 😀 😀

That's why my guess is that they will start at the top of the seniority list. Get rid of the expensive ones first. But, speaking of fun to watch, I am finding it just hilarious watching you rocket surgeons bury yourselves deeper each day.

I'm sure that will be the case, usapa has said has much, your scab role will just solidify.

Excuse me, but the definition of scab is a non-union worker in an agency shop. That sounds a whole lot more like you than anyone based east of the Mississippi. In fact, the the AFL-CIO is looking for a poster child of a scab, I'll bet they start sniffing around the Phoenix airport....easy pickin's there.

 

[elixir]

LOL,

I could not have gotten a more typical response.

"I would respond to your argument but it and you are beneath me so good riddance."

"I will now pick up my little red ball and stomp away from the playground."

"Good day sir."



Classic East.

And here's the best part of all....

I'm a union member in good standing...
and you are going to get fired...


what size hat are you again?....

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Gee oldie, imagine if you could channel the hatred you have for your fellow employees and use it for something productive rather than vindictive.

I have no hatred. I just have a sense of humor. I think it would be funny to see the know-it-all, non-union guys that think they should have everything get what's coming. Especially the ones that are leading their buddies down the primrose path.

Maybe you'll be one of 'em.

We can only hope.

If it were possible, AWAPPA should be sued for DFR.

 

[AAA73Pilot]

No, I saw it and it proves my point.

I was not on DCO yet ALPA seemed able to send me a monthly bill based on actual earnings, not some wild assed guess.

Was ALPA's psychic better than USAPA's or did they get data the USAPA seems unable to find?

Sorry, it answers the questions.

I too was not on DCO after May. My monthly bill was based on the estimated earnings that I thought I was going to make for the rest of the year. So I guess ALPA treated our billings different then. Either that or your bending the facts to justify your position. In addition, in January I was required to estimate my annual earnings based on a formula on the back of said ALPA form. If I can scan it I'll gladly post that up for your edification. But then again why bother? You wouldn't believe that anyway.

Yea, you're right. Absolutely. ALPA has better psychics. I always wondered what their problem was.

 

[ableoneable]

And here's the best part of all....

I'm a union member in good standing...
and you are going to get fired...


what size hat are you again?....

No, you are a self admitted scab.

You belong to an organization that is attempting to steal jobs.

Congratulations.

You keep saying west pilots will get fired or face discipline for;

Following the FOM and using their discretion to determine jumpseat eligibility.

Not paying dues to a "union" that seems incapable of even sending a legal bill.

None of this is happening but you can't seem to keep the glee out of your voice at the prospect of west pilots facing unemployment. Typical scab mentality. I should not be surprised in the least.

 

[nycbusdriver]

No, I saw it and it proves my point.

I was not on DCO yet ALPA seemed able to send me a monthly bill based on actual earnings, not some wild assed guess.

Was ALPA's psychic better than USAPA's or did they get data the USAPA seems unable to find?

Can you even read? It says USAPA does NOT have access to your monthly pay records just as ALPA never had that information either. Just like ALPA, they know your 2007 earnings and your current position. With that they infer what you are earning and bill you accordingly. Even with ALPA there was an annual adjustment if, in the new year, your previous year's earnings were different than what they estimated for your dues check-off. If you overpaid, they reduced one months withholding. If you underpaid, you got a bill.

It has always worked that way. The letter explains it quite well for those with the capacity to comprehend basic English.

 

[elixir]

LOL,

I could not have gotten a more typical response.

"I would respond to your argument but it and you are beneath me so good riddance."

"I will now pick up my little red ball and stomp away from the playground."

"Good day sir."



Classic East.

That sums up my personal perception perfectly...

goodbye.

 

[AAA73Pilot]

1. No, my goal is a pilot group united behind fair principals that exclude no one and harnessing that strength for the betterment of ALL US pilots.

2. Exorcising USAPA is step one.

3. USAPA holds the ability to settle the civil war that Bradford started, but he feels there is more to be gained with a divided pilot group. Do you agree, or don't you care? It's one or the other.

1. Agreed sir. Wait!! Stop the presses, we agree on something? Heaven forbid.

2. Like I said, see us fail. Enough said.

3. HUH? Get rid of USAPA ( See #2) then get USAPA to settle the "Civil war"? What exactly is your point?

 

[AAA73Pilot]

LOL,

I could not have gotten a more typical response.

"I would respond to your argument but it and you are beneath me so good riddance."

"I will now pick up my little red ball and stomp away from the playground."

"Good day sir."



Classic East.

No, from the few west posters here, classic west.