US Pilots Labor Discussion

[fodase]

USAPA can't arbitrarily promote one group over another but they will protect what you have.

So why are they doing it?

 

[icehead]

So why are they doing it?

Doing what? We have separate operations. I thought that was common knowledge.

 

[Code Name V]

Usapa and the east are "WINNING" lol, your union is an embarrassment, then again it completely reflects it's membership.

That wasn't even remotely interesting. Can't you do better than that, honey? Come on, give us some more name calling and weak ass threats. Like most, you're a pussy hiding behind a nameless keyboard. Still fun to read so why not try again to make my case....

V

 

[fodase]

Doing what? We have separate operations. I thought that was common knowledge.

Really? I thought usapa was redoing the accepted seniority list to move east pilots ahead of west. You new here?

 

[Phoenix]

it's doing about $700 a month from now till october, actually it's 2 and their each about the size of a pick up truck

Suzi, Suzi, Two air conditioners for one house?! Did you buy that house when Nic published the you won the lottery?

Now I understand why you were so upset at the PHX crew news. If Doug would just give you your promised Nic upgrade you wouldn't have to decide between running your air conditioning or sending your child to daycare during crew news.

 

[fodase]

Suzi, Suzi, Two air conditioners for one house?! Did you buy that house when Nic published the you won the lottery?

Now I understand why you were so upset at the PHX crew news. If Doug would just give you your promised Nic upgrade you wouldn't have to decide between running your air conditioning or sending your child to daycare during crew news.

I was a captain in 2005, i am not a captain today, So much for keeping what you brought huh?

Ps. Suzi was never a captain, she was my fo once on the 757 and she was senior to me.

 

[Black Swan]

In ten years it won't matter much whether we have a DOH list or not- most of you will be gone and the rest of us will bury your anger with you. You see, you're a bitter soul who knows in the end time is on my side, as well as the law. Even in a worse case scenario for me we keep you at $124 an hour NB captain pay for ten years until you either drop dead or wave the white flag from your bankruptcy contract. Asheville really is beautiful, the Grove Park Inn has such a majestic view. I am happy with how things are looking for me going forward. As each year passes I lose nothing- I will inherit the fruits of your sacrifices regardless of what happens - and a DOH list isnt in the cards. Time to enjoy the view, the 330 ( and maybe even the 350) will be fun to fly. All the best to you.

Chiil. Are you aware the east gets at a minimum 3 percent per yr. Say the loa 93arb is a down. So that 5 yrs. will be a 15 per cent raise. And that is if it is a loss. If it is a win, there is a potential big payout. Just so you know. As each yr passes, you do lose due to inflation. So your keeping us at 124 means nothing. You keep us nowhere. You keep yourself from Asheville.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

In ten years it won't matter much whether we have a DOH list or not- most of you will be gone and the rest of us will bury your anger with you. You see, you're a bitter soul who knows in the end time is on my side, as well as the law. Even in a worse case scenario for me we keep you at $124 an hour NB captain pay for ten years until you either drop dead or wave the white flag from your bankruptcy contract. Asheville really is beautiful, the Grove Park Inn has such a majestic view. I am happy with how things are looking for me going forward. As each year passes I lose nothing- I will inherit the fruits of your sacrifices regardless of what happens - and a DOH list isnt in the cards. Time to enjoy the view, the 330 ( and maybe even the 350) will be fun to fly. All the best to you.

REALLY, Good for you, DREAMS are FREE, but reality isn't, 10 years? That crystal ball thing, YOU will never see or get a chance to even bid a 330, at this company, your PHX operation will be fragged off at the next boardroom merger deal to fend off any chance of corporate liability in any transaction, seperate contracts,seperate lists, the F/A"s offer was a stern warning of things to come, the economy, and oil weigh heavy! GOOD LUCK! YOUR SIDE WILL NEED IT!

 

[fodase]

Chiil. Are you aware the east gets at a minimum 3 percent per yr. Say the loa 93arb is a down. So that 5 yrs. will be a 15 per cent raise. And that is if it is a loss. If it is a win, there is a potential big payout. Just so you know. As each yr passes, you do lose due to inflation. So your keeping us at 124 means nothing. You keep us nowhere. You keep yourself from Asheville.

So in 5 years you will still make less than a west captain and you are happy about it? And you wonder why we call you scab clowns.

 

[Black Swan]

So in 5 years you will still make less than a west captain and you are happy about it? And you wonder why we call you scab clowns.

You conveniently continue to leave out the fact the rate you have on the a 320 is the only jet you can say that for. Your 75 pays lower than ours. Our 76 pays more as well as the 330. I can t wait to see what you have to say if Kasher delivers. You will be done then. For all the gloating, it couldn t happen to a finer lady.

 

[prechilill]

As each day passes the west gains a little at the expense of the east. Time is on out side. Seniority is seniority and regardless of how much the east can stonewall in ten years the 330 will be captained by west pilots.

 

[end_of_alpa]

In ten years it won't matter much whether we have a DOH list or not- most of you will be gone and the rest of us will bury your anger with you. You see, you're a bitter soul who knows in the end time is on my side, as well as the law. Even in a worse case scenario for me we keep you at $124 an hour NB captain pay for ten years until you either drop dead or wave the white flag from your bankruptcy contract. Asheville really is beautiful, the Grove Park Inn has such a majestic view. I am happy with how things are looking for me going forward. As each year passes I lose nothing- I will inherit the fruits of your sacrifices regardless of what happens - and a DOH list isnt in the cards. Time to enjoy the view, the 330 ( and maybe even the 350) will be fun to fly. All the best to you.

Thank you. Same to you!

 

[Code Name V]

As each day passes the west gains a little at the expense of the east. Time is on out side. Seniority is seniority and regardless of how much the east can stonewall in ten years the 330 will be captained by west pilots.

This is about the only thing you have said that is correct. In ten years, the west will own the airline and get to fly the routes that their DOH seniority will allow. Too bad; you could have had it much sooner if your weren't so ignorant and stubborn....10 years sounds about right....maybe not captain, but at least F/O...or IRO...

V

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

As each day passes the west gains a little at the expense of the east. Time is on out side. Seniority is seniority and regardless of how much the east can stonewall in ten years the 330 will be captained by west pilots.

Just curious, your logic is? MM! For the record, TIME IS ON NOBODYS SIDE!

 

[fodase]

You conveniently continue to leave out the fact the rate you have on the a 320 is the only jet you can say that for. Your 75 pays lower than ours. Our 76 pays more as well as the 330. I can t wait to see what you have to say if Kasher delivers. You will be done then. For all the gloating, it couldn t happen to a finer lady.

And you leave out that our 320 captains make more than your 330 captains. Yes your 330 captains make a whole $16 more than the west 320 captains that is a whole $14,400.00 a year, but the west captains get an extra 10 days vacation, the west reserve pilots get an extra 24 days off a year than the eAst pilots, 100% deadhead And 100% cancellation pay. Wow the west 320 pilots w2 is always bigger if he works the same days.