US Pilots Labor Discussion

[toganoflex]

Capt Ahern is innocent until his court date period. Even if found guilty, the 9th may overturn...anyway, ask Wake ?

To my Westicles friend, if any of you threaten me or any of my co-workers at work, you will find yourself bleeding on the floor begging for your mother before I call the CP and local cops. Simple.

Bunch of pussycats without the cats.

Idiot.

 

[traderjake]

What this board, like the airline it is about, has become is really just sad.

I like Ric and am sorry to see this happen.

Having said that do you think after 3 years the West is getting a little tired of being stabbed in the back?

 

[Phoenix]

No, he said he admired NAZI soldiers for their loyality to each other.

Thank you for clarifying that he did not say the soldiers were loyal to Hitler and the atrocities he birthed, contrary to what Cleardirect tried to imply (thanks for pointing to Clear's post too), and you appeared to attempt to build the same implication. Its good to see you and Clear both think soldiers must be loyal to each other, and their loyalty dictates that they overthrow Hitler type leaders. We couldn't agree more.

 

[flybynite]

West pilots do nothing wrong, yet are subjected to harassment and intimidation by the East conceived, East sponsored, and East run union. Shame on the East pilots who continue to ignore what their own creation has wrought.

Really?

Shame on the west pilots for leaving east crew members at the airport when you should wait...high fiving each other as if you'd won the super bowl only to discover you'd left behind a west extra f/a or a west crew.

Feeling proud now? Happens all the time.

 

[Zone5]

An East pilot wishing death on a West pilot AND his family. This speaks volumes about your character, Mikey. I'll re-post this next time any East pilot accuses a West pilot of a "low blow" comment. Maybe you need to put yourself in a time-out. Also, nice job by your East peers of sanctioning such comments by not making any mention of it. Congratulations on reaching a new low.

Just got back from flying. I am compelled to chime in to denounce such an offensive, low class comment! Totally unacceptable. Just like this company we work for, reaching new "lows" does not accomplish anything. Once again, everybody stop this type of behavior!

seajay

 

[aquagreen73s]

Really?

Shame on the west pilots for leaving east crew members at the airport when you should wait...high fiving each other as if you'd won the super bowl only to discover you'd left behind a west extra f/a or a west crew.

Feeling proud now? Happens all the time.

Have no idea what you're talking about but I guess in your little perverted world, there is no difference between institutionalized harassment and leaving a J/S at the gate. Wow. What's next, Sharon Tate was not perfect and Charlie Manson was just misunderstood? At the end of the day it's all the same?

 

[sumadarson]

Just got back from flying. I am compelled to chime in to denounce such an offensive, low class comment! Totally unacceptable. Just like this company we work for, reaching new "lows" does not accomplish anything. Once again, everybody stop this type of behavior!

seajay

Please explain to everyone how you were hired on the west but are now on the East, but say you are the west, but now claim you are on the East.

767jetz grandpa and you would get along fine.

 

[Zone5]

How about proudly raise that gear for me Sparky...

What's all this constant blather about "raising and lowering" the gear? You got a different FOM than me? Mine say's it's accomplished by the non-flying pilot.

seajay

 

[traderjake]

Thank you for clarifying that he did not say the soldiers were loyal to Hitler and the atrocities he birthed, contrary to what Cleardirect tried to imply (thanks for pointing to Clear's post too), and you appeared to attempt to build the same implication.

Who do you think carried out the atrocities?

Are you claiming they were not loyal to Hilter and just following orders?

That makes it ok as long as they were loyal to each other while marching women and children into the gas chambers.

 

[Phoenix]

Pilot or not. Many real German soldiers knew they were on the wrong side of right. So do USAPA members. It takes REAL courage to admit it rather than blindly follow the leader.

The former ALPA members that knew John Prater was wrong would have cringed at the thought of comparing him to Hitler, despite his terrible mishandling of the merger and the necessity for him and his failed organization to be cast off.

Leospanker admires the successful campaign that ousted John Prater, at the hands of a group of pilots that Leospanker thinks to be halfwhit missfits, but they admire their persistence and success nonetheless (Wow, it was a lot more than 200 cards). Now Leospanker is attempting to establish a counterrevolution by using the hyperbole of emotional figures such as Hitler, though no one has killed millions, invaded countries, or called for the extermination of an entire race.

Why don't Leospanker initiates just talk about ballots, voting, and the integrity to abide by the law rather than trying to paint apocalyptic tales and visions about The Evil USAir CEO Beast colluding with the AntiChrist USAPAian band that is purging all the trees of the earth and stamping the ashes with their feet?

These mythic cries of torture and poverty are an insult to those who have relatives that really were victims of the SS.

 

[Code Name V]

Who do you think carried out the atrocities?

Yeah right, they were just following orders. That makes it ok.

You know Traitor; I may have been mistaken. You may understand the concept of mutual support. Unfortunately, you, like CM have thrown your support to the enemy and make no mistake; we are at war. We are at war with the company and we are at war with the West.

You constantly talk about blind following and you like to compare Cleary to Hitler. Utter nonsense. Then you want to chastise those that follow Cleary.

Well, news to you and yours. Many of us actually believe in our leadership, even if it is not perfect. We believe that the intent is correct and that nothing illegal and certainly nothing that would be considered an atrocity has occured. So far as I know, the gas chambers are still idle.

When I look at your treacherous behavior towards your own I am reminded of one line from Article 4 of the American Fighting Mans Code of Conduct. While I do not want to take it too far out of context as it applies specifically to the Code should one of our own become a POW, the line in itself is very clear and should be recognized . Let me repeat it for you:

....I will give no information, or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades....

You, traitor, like CM, consistently provide instruction and support to the enemy. That in my book is betrayal and should be dealt with as sedition. That is why I tell you to retire or to quit and rejoin their forces as your betrayal is harmful to all of us that have to fight your battles. One thing I can say for the West as I have said before. They do stick together on these issues and you don't see them betraying their own.

OK now, bring it on. Lets start to put as much spin on this as you can muster.


V

 

[A320 Driver]

What's all this constant blather about "raising and lowering" the gear? You got a different FOM than me? Mine say's it's accomplished by the non-flying pilot.

seajay

BINGO

 

[flybynite]

Have no idea what you're talking about but I guess in your little perverted world, there is no difference between institutionalized harassment and leaving a J/S at the gate. Wow. What's next, Sharon Tate was not perfect and Charlie Manson was just misunderstood? At the end of the day it's all the same?

How odd that you don't know what I'm talking about. Your f/a's tell us this and they're po'ed over it. Now you've managed to piss off your f/a's too. 🙄

 

[traderjake]

You know Traitor; I may have been mistaken. You may understand the concept of mutual support. Unfortunately, you, like CM have thrown your support to the enemy and make no mistake; we are at war. We are at war with the company and we are at war with the West.

V

You're wrong. The company is the enemy, not the West.

Four seniority arbitrations in a row say slotting by equipment and staus is fair and DOH is not.

You, like the majority of the East, are either too cognitively challenged to see it or too unethical to admit it in the face of overwhelming evidence.

You're not going to coerse me into helping you steal jobs from the West.

"Loyalty above all else... except honor"...........Lieutenant Vincent Hardy from the movie Striking Distance

 

[sumadarson]

You're wrong. The company is the enemy, not the West. You seem to be confused about who the bad guys are now and during WWII.

Four seniority arbitrations in a row say slotting by equipment and staus is fair and DOH is not.

You, like the majority of the East, are either too cognitively challenged to see it or too ethical to admit it in the face of overwhelming evidence.

I will not support you in stealing jobs from the West.

During the right thing is more important than loyality.

Saw you in the PHL crew lounge on Tuesday getting your 190 bid sheet. No badge backer or lanyard for either side.

Talk to 767 jetz, he will tell you how much you remind him of his grandpa, who did not lead or follow or get out of the way.

You have alpa talent to provide for your future concern about your only concern, yourself. Say hi to your pappy for me, have not seen him post lately.