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There is just no time for the Nic. now, the delay of USAPA was priceless. Worth every cent! They still don't get you have to have a joint contract to have the Nic, and that is never going to happen now. :lol: :lol:
Now that the MDA hail mary pass failed luvthe9 thinks American is going to run the ball into the end zone for USAPA.
 
Now that the MDA hail mary pass failed American is going to run the ball into the end zone for USAPA.

Oh and they will be bastards, but at least we aren't unified and the Nic is not in. Shouldn't be too bad if you have scope.
 
Let her try, right back to the 9th for the wacky Az judges who will be schooled AGAIN :lol: :lol: :lol:
Right back to the ninth? If you consider a year or more right back.

What are you going to do when the company says we are done. The court decided. It is the Nicolau we are not negotiating.

Usapa has always said they can negotiate seniority. What if one party says no?

You east guys sure rely on appeal a lot. So far how has that worked out? Once on ripeness. If the ninth says not ripe did that get you any closer to a contract?
 
Junebug, Nic4 and Res are starting to lose it as they see the AA deal coming up on them fast. There is just no time for the Nic. now, the delay of USAPA was priceless. Worth every cent! They still don't get you have to have a joint contract to have the Nic, and that is never going to happen now. :lol: :lol:
You keep think thinking that. If it makes you feel better.

A couple small problems for usapa. You can figure them out. Well maybe not.
 
Junebug, Nic4 and Res are starting to lose it as they see the AA deal coming up on them fast. There is just no time for the Nic. now, the delay of USAPA was priceless. Worth every cent! They still don't get you have to have a joint contract to have the Nic, and that is never going to happen now. :lol: :lol:

Without an improved (joint) contract we will all end up at or near the bottom of the new American seniority list. I'm not sure how that is priceless, or worth every cent.

You would be better off going into the merger with an industry standard contract and the Nic than your current pitiful wages and two separate lists.
 
CCC Update (Building Credentials): April 12, 2012

Building Credentials

A New Day for USAPA?



From: "Rob Streble" <rstreble@usairlinepilots.org>
Date: April 10, 2012 7:45:00 AM EDT
To: "xxx xxxxx”
Subject:RE: Paul Music FPL for grievance training

Confirmed he was removed from trip 2xxxx on Xxxxx xxth at an estimated cost to the Union of $2,717.57 as authorized by Spike and Parrella. ]


The email above came in response to a written request for union information, from The Compass Correction, to USAPA. We had our curiosity raised by the endorsement letter for candidate Paul Music, by Captain William G. Glynn on his web-board blog.

This e-mail confirmation from our USAPA Secretary/Treasurer brings up some compelling talking points.


Why is a candidate going to training to be a rep prior to being elected?


Why does this candidate need 3 days off, at a cost to USAPA members for a 3-hour course that could and should be done voluntarily?

Why did current PHL Chairman Steve Szpyrka authorize this?


What is Mr. Music doing the other 2 days he has off and is getting paid for with our dues dollars?


Since Grievance Chair Parrella is off full-time, why couldn’t she teach this course at a convenient time that did not require Mr. Music to drop and get paid for a 3-day trip?


Shouldn’t this course be taught to reps AFTER THEY ARE ELECTED, so our dues money is not wasted? What if Mr. Music does not win the election? Then that $2727.57 of your dues money was entirely wasted, and Mr. Music got a paid vacation on your dime!
We at the Compass Correction have had enough of this sort of cronyism, back-scratching and money-wasting at USAPA. The Cleary Era is all but over…and still this kind of dues money wasting is going on.

Please consider carefully, before you vote in current ongoing PHL election. If you have already voted, it is not too late to recast your ballot. Unlike other elections, there is only one position on the ballot for recasting.

In his recent Blog, Glynn could not resist slamming Jamie Weidner, rather than simply singing the praises of Paul Music; that always raises our collective eyebrows. If the endorser can’t put forth positive reasons to vote for his candidate, he will generally resort to mud slinging.

Mr. Glynn states that candidate F/O Music, a Cleary and Szpyrka disciple, is uniquely qualified to represent you in the PHL Chief Pilot’s office since he has recently received important union training. Here’s the rest of the story…

Jamie was notified by PHL Chairman Szyprka, on March 22, that he had been scheduled for a March 27th training session on”representation”. He was told that this was to “educate” him on the nuances of Parrella style representation.

This three-hour class was to be hosted by none other than Tracy Parrella, our USAPA Grievance Chair. Weidner responded that he had a scheduling conflict and that any of the following dates would work for him: March 28, 29 or 30th. Also, he pointed out the fact that these dates dovetailed with the upcoming BPR Meeting. The later dates would also increase efficiency, since the new PHX Representatives, as well as new VP, Steve Bradford and new EVP, Steve Smyser would all be present at that time for the same training; which they all needed.


Here’s the training course in a nutshell:
a. Prep the Pilot
b. Take good notes
c. You can’t bring a USAPA Attorney
d. Don’t say anything stupid!


Also, the always practical Weidner pointed out that this 3 hour training class could wait until after the PHL special election, because if he was not elected, the expense and USAPA resources would not be wasted. Weidner also mentioned to Chairman Szyprka that in the meantime, three previous Representatives were available in PHL and had made themselves available, should the need arise.

For reasons unknown, Szyprka instead decided to train Candidate F/O Music, on March 27th., along with two other non-Committee PHL First Officers, hand picked by Szpyrka. As a result, First Officer Music was paid for a three day Rome trip + expenses, for attending this three hour Parrella indoctrination. This is simply another Cleary sponsored “Cash for Cronies” deal, or as Mike Cleary himself refers to it as “building credentials.” We are reminded of that credit card commercial.

Three hours work!
Three days of pay!
Political favors and campaign points obtained!
Priceless!


And it only cost you, the dues paying USAPA member, $2,717.57! (USAPA estimate).For those of you doing the math, remember; a bought trip costs USAPA a company mandated 30% (approximately)- cash penalty, paid back to Management. Mike Cleary loves to spend “other people’s money!”


The PHL special Election: An endorsement of Jamie Weidner.

We at the Compass Correction like to think we know a little about representation. In fact, at least five of our recent contributors have served as representatives for the pilots at our current bargaining agent or under our previous bargaining agent. We also know what this special election is all about.

This election is about the continuation of the nightmare many of you thought was in the rearview mirror when you elected a new president in Gary Hummel and a new approach in leadership; separate from the disasters of the past failed tirades of the Cleary administration. Under Mike Cleary, this pilot group witnessed failure after failure for 3 years with an administration that included four (AZ, NC, NY, MN) miserable court losses amid a dysfunctional leadership corp.

You see, the reason your outgoing president did not run for re-election was because his closest aides told him he was not electable. So Cleary chose to run a hidden campaign, a campaign that would allow enough support for one of those “golden flight pay loss” jobs.

It has come down to this – his one last shot! Mike Cleary needs the election of First Officer Music to join his other PHL and CLT cronies to provide the needed BPR majority to land one of those coveted positions on the NAC (negotiating) and/or Merger Committees.

Let’s be clear. A vote for F/O Music is a vote to place Mike Cleary on an important committee.A Committee where Cleary can bring us more of his failed leadership and “no results” accomplishments for this pilot group. All US Airways pilots deserve a fresh start. You deserve it and you know it!

So fellow pilots and USAPA members, particularly you the PHL voters, it is time to pay attention to this little glimpse into the current political world of Mike Cleary and his last desperate grasp for power. It is also important to note the continued political maneuvering by the current CLT and PHL reps and their disregard for your wishes, not to mention YOUR money.


We know Jamie Weidner from our days as the Council 41 leaders who were the first to declare our opposition to the NIC. Jamie was right there with us on the bus to and from Herndon and he’s never gotten off that bus since. He is the intelligent, rational and independent candidate that we can all be proud of.

Fraternally,


Eric Rowe PHL A330

Woody Menear PHL 7i

Jed Thomas PHL A330

Dave Ciabattoni PHL AB 320
 
To be represented you have to pay in AZ?

I get it, 767one from your comment above, either you GI, FA or some other member got a thread closed. Nice try, twisting my message which gave me no chance to respond. All
of you have a fundamental lack of understanding how democracy works. Having dealt with USAPA and the Eastie thought process in general, I'm not surprised at your collective ignorance.

I'm not even going to bother trying to explain how a fund raising event works for a congressional candidate. LOA 93 won't even get you past the valet.
 
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