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US/UA Possible Merger Discussion IV

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Mr. Parker, this source added, also was willing to step down from the company altogether if that was the only way to make the deal work. ...



so who is going to run merged ua/us??????
Does it really matter who takes over? You are not going to like that CEO.....I ve been in this industry for 30 plus years seen many top management come and go does not matter who is at the helm because your not going to like them especially in todays enviorment Just deal with it I you can do a better job then apply for it Just my opinion
 
Tempe Incompetence?
Employee Morale?
Poor Customer Service?
Baggage Woes?
Dirty Planes?
Horrible FC product?
Uncomfortable seats in Envoy?
Tuna Burritos?
No more Pretzels?
High cost of Cheap?
no more closets?
beverage carts?
SS's horses?
premium wines?
party cups?
ferret farts?
Greek Scrambled Eggs?
Stapling?
the size 2 zipup dress?
writey uppy westies?
stuck up easties?
senior mommas?
junior reserves?
closing pit?
non revving on Southwestern?
American West was a regional carrier?
US always sucked?
US was always great?
We need Gordon Bethuene?
Navy blue planes were classy?
What will be swooshified next?
Rotating RSV?
Rude Gate Agents?
Rude F/A's?
1/2 minis on Westie flights?
Wearing pants to recurrent that have belt loops but no belt?
dogearring your manual?
The A walking overwing?
Monitor and Challenge?
Crew Juice?
FFOCUS?
Doug's DUI?
The B6 crewroom renovations?
Ma and Pa Kettle?
Pissed off customers?
DOT complaints?
Leaving pax behind to keep OT numbers high?
Cash Cow?
No more cash cow?
Duty Free?

I know, I know.....DOH v. FCFS!!!!!
 
Uh...didn't DAL & NWA make the same claim(pilot trouble) then turn around a week or two later and push ahead anyway?

I don't think this is the end.

JMHO

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United, US Airways CEOs meet; report says talks end

AP source confirms United, US Airways CEOs meet; New York Times reports United ending talks

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USA320Pilot
 
Hooray!!!! :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

I'll second that! Hooray! Let's hope this is finally the end of all the UA/US Merger nonsense. And oh yes, I am ANOTHER US employee who is NOT for the merger. It was never just the UA employees that didn't want US. Just as many US employees wanted nothing to do with UA.
 
AA is reducing capacity, DL/NW is likely to reduce capacity...

LCC should look to reduce capacity with smaller carriers folding or consolidating: F9, NK, B6
 
UA / CO BACK IN BUSINESS ?????

Plans to merge UAL Corp.'s United Airlines and US Airways Group Inc. were suspended -- for now -- when UAL Corp. Chief Executive Officer Glenn Tilton told his opposite number, Doug Parker, on Thursday that United is very near an alliance agreement with Continental Airlines Inc., said two people familiar with the situation.

United and US Airways had been in merger exploration talks for more than two months. After stop-and-go discussions, Mr. Tilton and Mr. Parker had lunch Thursday, said these people. During the meeting, Mr. Tilton raised concerns about the merger plan and said United thinks it is close to reaching an alliance agreement with Continental, a plan that wouldn't require all the pain of up-front merger integration costs and antitrust scrutiny by the Department of Justice.

UA / CO ALLIANCE ??
 
United, US Airways CEOs meet; report says talks end

AP source confirms United, US Airways CEOs meet; New York Times reports United ending talks

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USA320Pilot


Interesting that bringing the lowest paided pilot group into the fold was mentioned by Tilton as being too costly, and of course, the excuse. The lazy news media will lap this up tomorrow, without researching the facts. Either way, I am glad round three, four or whatever is over...for now.
 
Blaming Labor issues for the failure of something like this is akin to saying "the dog ate my homework". It's a convenient thing to blame for the failure to make this happen. I believe the real issue is that with tight credit markets, crappy fuel prices and the condition of the industry in general, there were no financial backers willing to take the gamble on this industry. I'm actually sort of surprised that the DAL/NWA thing has progressed to it's present state, and wouldn't be real surprised to see that fall apart for the same reasons.

FWIW, I don't what why Tilton thinks that any sort of "alliance" wouldn't face the scrutiny of the justice department and the DOT. If anything, there should be MORE, not less scrutiny of cooperating competitors.

Hopefully this is the end of this merger nonsense for a while and LCC will get back to fixing this airline, rather than looking for a bailout.
 
The potential merger is dead. Maybe it's for the best but it makes me wonder if US will make it on it's own.

I'm not sure our current board of directors will want to continue dealing with seniority issues. We basically still have two separate airlines. Like it or not, shareholders call the shots and determine the fate of our company and they are tired of internal scuabbles.

My prediction is without a merger partner we will be sold in pieces.
 
United, US Airways Merger Plans Suspended

By SUSAN CAREY
May 29, 2008 10:05 p.m.

Plans to merge UAL Corp.'s United Airlines and US Airways Group Inc. were suspended -- for now -- when UAL Corp. Chief Executive Officer Glenn Tilton told his opposite number, Doug Parker, on Thursday that United is very near an alliance agreement with Continental Airlines Inc., said two people familiar with the situation.

United and US Airways had been in merger exploration talks for more than two months. After stop-and-go discussions, Mr. Tilton and Mr. Parker had lunch Thursday, said these people. During the meeting, Mr. Tilton raised concerns about the merger plan and said United thinks it is close to reaching an alliance agreement with Continental, a plan that wouldn't require all the pain of up-front merger integration costs and antitrust scrutiny by the Department of Justice.

If United follows this path, it would confound a commonly held theory that the merger plan announced in April between Delta Air Lines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. would lead to at least one follow-up merger by a pair of large carriers. But with fuel prices skyrocketing, credit increasingly tight and the economy slowing down, mergers are looking riskier than ever. And certain financial aspects related to labor contract between the two airlines looked daunting.

UAL, which has been assessing its options after being rebuffed late last month by Continental for a full-blown merger, has continued to pursue a possible merger with US Airways while also looking at ways of luring Continental into an alliance with United and its Star Alliance global airline grouping, which includes anchor partner Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

On Thursday, Mr. Tilton told Mr. Parker that a merger plan between UAL and US Airways is off the table for now, although he didn't rule it out in the future, said these people. Mr. Tilton told Mr. Parker that UAL is "very close" to striking a deal with Continental on bringing the Houston-based airline into the Star Alliance and into a deeper relationship with United that potentially would be granted antitrust immunity that would have to be sought by the U.S. Department of Transportation.

Continental, which a month ago rejected a merger with UAL, has been assessing its alliance options. Its current U.S. partners in the global SkyTeam airline marketing alliance, Delta Air Lines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp., in mid April announced plans to merge. That prompted Continental to look at its other options and participate in talks with AMR Corp.'s American Airlines, an anchor member in the oneworld alliance, and United, a counting member of Star.

According to a person familiar with the situation, UAL's CEO, Mr. Tilton, told Mr. Parker of US Airways that United is "very close" to an alliance agreement with Continental. United hopes to win U.S. antitrust immunity to allow the two to act in a coordinated fashion -- as to fares, capacity and schedules -- in an indeterminate number of foreign markets. United already has asked the various Star Alliance member airlines around the world to allow Continental to join that club.

Because Continental is contractually tied to Northwest in the current SkyTeam arrangement, Continental wouldn't be able to exit those relationships until months after the Delta-Northwest merger closed, if regulators allow that to happen, said a person familiar with the situation.

Where this leaves US Airways is uncertain. The Tempe, Ariz., carrier, the nation's seventh-largest by traffic, has been a strong proponent of consolidation. It is the result of a 2005 merger of the old US Airways, which was in bankruptcy-court protection, and American West Airlines.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
United wasn't good enough for Continental and US isn't good enough for United.

Unbelievable.

Well USA320 is this the "interesting" news you spoke of?
 
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