Wants to pay his dues, does not want to join

[jetmech01890]

BTW they are not called union dues refer to them as extortion fees

 

[Formatman]

As stated earlier...it's called an "agency fee payer" (at least in the CWA). I am an agency fee payer simply because I'm a Republican. Unions take a portion of your dues and donate the money to the charities of their choice (you have no say) and also give money to the Democratic party. If I could give the charity money to who I wanted to give it to and donate money to the Republican party...then I would not be an agency fee payer. But as it is, that portion of money is given back to me at the end of the year (it amounts to about $100 and some change). But also as said earlier...I cannot vote or attend union meetings.

 

[malikie]

HMMMM And who's interests were represented when an AGC led 22 members in an assault on so called "Union Brothers"??

After all it's just one big union throughout the world, Solidarity Forever or at least until someone challenges your authority.

I was being saterical. Personally I think unions are more corrupt than the companiy executives that they belittle everyday. Its sad you have these so called union leaders who say they are there for the workers and they promise them things they know they will not get from the company and then they scream bloody murder when the company does not give in and in the end the union leadership caves and say they fought for them as thousands of workers are given pink slips. If that is representation for the working people you can have it. I am better off without a union.And no i am not management. And no I dont always agree with management so dont say i drink the coolaid either.

Piney the last couple sentences were not aimed at you i put them in there because i know the hard core union people who are on here will respond because i put down there oh so perfect union lives....LOL

 

[700UW]

I'm a Republican. Unions take a portion of your dues and donate the money to the charities of their choice (you have no say) and also give money to the Democratic party.

Wrong, it is against the law for a union to give dues money to political parties or candidates.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[Phoenix]

You can become a dues objector, you still have to initiate and pay the fees germane to the CBA.

However, you can't attend meetings, vote on your representation, nor can you vote on the CBA or a strike vote.

You basically save $13 or so a month and you give up your say in what happens.

Union dues are tax deductable, so what is the big deal?

So you get to keep $13 and know ahead of time that your opinion don't matter, or you pay your $13 and find out the same thing afterwards.

 

[crusher]

An agency fee payer or Beck Objector still pays union dues, but gets a 25-28% rebate on their dues. You must file yearly in May with the union stating that you resign from the union and want to be a Beck Objector. Sometime during the summer (July-Aug) you get a check for about $125.00. I figure that I can better determine what to do with my money. If I want to contribute it to a political party than that is my decision not the CWA's. I do not want to be a part of the union's blind support of the socialist policies of the Democrat party.

 

[700UW]

Can you not read?

It is against the law for unions to give dues money to political parties or candidates, every single penny a union spends must be reported to the Dept of Labor.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[crusher]

Thay can and do support those groups and causes that do support the Dems. Although they may not be able to directly give money to the party ,they do support groups like George Soros' which are just front groups for the looney left.

 

[700UW]

They do not support political groups with money, it is against the law.

And maybe if republicans supported labor, unions and workers would support them.

How can a party be so against a minimum wage increase yet vote themeselves raises all the time?

I find it puzziling that when a republican is confronted with the facts and the truth, and shown to be wrong, they turn too insults, attacks and name calling.

 

[700UW]

Wrong again Bob.

PACs do not receive dues dollars, it is against the law.

I belonged to the IAM's MNPL, it is voluntary donations, not dues money, why do you post misinformation?

The Machinists Non-Partisan Political League
is the political arm of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. It was created in 1947 to allow IAM members to gather individual contributions, coordinate political activity, and elect candidates who support IAM members and their families.

Candidates we support know that the MNPL stands for economic justice, security in the workplace and equality for every member. They do not take us for granted.

The MNPL scrutinizes each candidate thoroughly. We ask tough questions such as their positions on trade, labor law reform, economic conversion, transportation policies, and enhancement of the U.S. manufacturing base

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Like I said, every single penny spent by a union has to be reported to the Dept of Labor and those forms are available for the public to view, can you say the same about Corporate America?

Dues Objectors have the IAM's books and DOL filings audited every year by independent auditors, see if you were an actual union member and were educated on the laws, you would know these things.

I guess you don't let the law and the facts get in your way hatred of organized labor from you posting outright false information.

 

[700UW]

Once again you ignore what I posted towards you and have to once again bring up the PHL incident which was done by individuals, not the IAM. Oh by the way, why were all the charges dropped?

Don't try to dodge and deflect with things that have nothing to do with what I posted and what is being discussed.

Once again your silence on it the issue shows that you know you are wrong, yet won't admit it.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[Tim Nelson]

In this weeks aboutUS, in the question and answers was the following question/answer. I'm baffled at the thought process of willing to pay, but refusal to join.

Comments?

Q. I’m a customer service agent and I would like to pay my union
dues, but no one seems to know how I can do this unless I sign a
card joining the union. I do not want to join, but do know that I am
required to pay dues. How can this be resolved?

A. Under the passenger service agreement, you are not required to be a
member of the union, but you are required to pay an "agency fee" which
is nearly the same amount as dues. You can find information in Article
33 of the passenger service agreement, which you can get by contacting
the president or secretary treasurer of the local union.

With this being America, I believe in free volition and people having the right to pay dues or not without risking their job. Not many want to be members in unions these days since the unions have outlived themselves [less than 8% of Americans are now union as of 2006 figures] and their usefullness has eroded. The bottom line is that people are not stupid and they aren't lining up to join something that is just, well, dumb to be a part of.

OTOH, unions are very smart when it comes to self survival though and would have a member fired if they stop paying dues. That should say alot about how much a union actually cares about a human being, to have a person actually fired if they slap that union hand reaching deep in their pocket.

regards,

 

[hp_fa]

In the months before I left AWA I had done some investigation of also becoming a dues objector, but since I had prepaid my dues for all of 2005 there was no rush to act on it.

Why was I doing this? I liked the folks at LEC 66. I attended meetings and discussed matters with them and did what I could for the betterment of the FA's. So why was I considering becoming a dues objector?

Pat (non) Friend.

I viewed Ms. (non) Friend as someone who threw the AWA's FA's under the bus. I didn't see any action by her that did anything to actually support the AWA FA's other then collect their dues checks. I had already stopped my monthly contribution of $20.00 to AFAPAC because I was so disgusted with her. I openly railed against her on the website that LEC 66 ran for it's members. The bottom line was that I did not think she cared one whit about us, just her own re-election and maintaining her position and lifestyle in DC.

I left the company before my prepaid dues payment had expired, so I never really got the chance to be a dues objector. But the groundwork had been done and I was ready to do it. And trust me, it wasn't because I wasn't solidly in line with the real wants and needs of other frontline workers.

 

[PHX-F/A]

Thay can and do support those groups and causes that do support the Dems. Although they may not be able to directly give money to the party ,they do support groups like George Soros' which are just front groups for the looney left.

Can you name any Democrats that put an airline into bankruptcy?

 

[john john]

Can you name any Democrats that put an airline into bankruptcy?

NO but I can name a republican appoint federal bankruptcy judge

II'm FOR the guy who draw a paycheck and Against those who try to hurt that person whether they be union or management.

Bob do you sign a contract with your employer?