Yes or no for the IBEW?

[JoeDirt]

Answer these:

Did he not file short on cards when he started his first union and caused a one year bar?

Did he not try to sell his name list to the IBT for a job?

Was he not removed as Grievance Committee in ORD for Dual Unionism?

Did he not start Fleet Service United and appoint himself as leadership and tried to raid the IAM and failed?

Did he not start the Allied Ground Workers and tried to raid IAM at US and the TWU at AA and fail once again, appointing himself and Miker Pruitt as leadership?

Did he not offer his services to the TWU in PHX only to be told no thanks after the TWU DFW Local Lodge President inform him of his attempted raid on AA Ramp?

Funny all these things happened, not distortion, just the truth.

Cupcake(700UW)......Has this thought ever occured to you. We might know this already.
The fight is not about Tim or you. It is too important for personal squabbles. Its about the rampers and their's and their familys future. By your own admission you are not a ramper. I worked with Tim for a number of years and by his own admission he is an ####. I can not vouch for his other admission. He makes it very clear where he stands. This being said and the fact that this is a public forum. No one will argue the fact that you have the right to post whatever you choose to post. Everyone knows you exercise that right often and on numerous threads. I can not speak for anyone else but I for one want to hear what Tim has to offer. Intelligent questions, comments, facts, and or opinions from anyone are welcome as far as I am concerned, as long as they are presented as such. Personal attacks on someone does nothing for ones creditability. In fact those attacks have the exact opposite effect. Even though this is not your fight you may have some important information that might be relevant. It would be a shame if this information was passed over and ignored, not because of the post but because of the poster. The fact that this is not a face to face meeting makes it very easy to dismiss an individual as unimportant.

 

[Canale's Conscience]

Nicely said. The UAL website canaleunplugged.livejournal.com suffered similiar problems with people turning it into personal attacks instead of an information site to rid us of Canale. There's a lot of info here and I'm excited to read it all. I don't care who likes who. I also know Tim Nelson for just a short time and I'd be very confident with him representing my interests. Just my opinion.

 

[roosterfish]

Thanks Tim,

I hope the PHL 22 didn't have anything to do with that

couldn't be... some of the PHL 22 are involved in organizing IBEW

 

[webi]

HELLO BROTHERS AND SISTERS

I think this is a great forum for us to vent our frustration and share our ideas. I am glad to see the IBEW is so well received across the country. the fleet service group is a strong group of people with great ideas and even more passion. With your vast knowledge of this industry, and strong leadership at the highest level you could set the standard for all airlines in wages, benefits and work-rules. It is certainly deserved after the sacrifices you and your families have had to endure for far to long. Times are getting better for the airline, but male no mistake US AIRWAYS will never give you what you deserve without a fight. With that being said this is the best time to be at the bargaining table. After reading that TA I can see why this did not meet the expectations of the membership. At the end of the day thats all that matters. You guys control your fate. Not the leadership of the IAM or the IBEW for that matter. Your concerns MUST be addressed at any and every opportunity. After all you pay the salarys of your reps. Therefor when as a group you demands more, leadership MUST listen. Thats what leadership does, thats what they are paid to do. The IBEW brings real leadership to the table. The bargaining table, I put the IBEW's track record against any of the major unions in this country. On a personal note, when your highest paid worker makes just over 17.00 an hour, no rep, or at least not so many should be racking in 100,000.00 and up. NO WAY!!!!!

 

[Richard]

A couple of reminders here:

Keep on topic and stop the insults and personal attacks.

Next one to call someone a name or use the name cupcake gets a week in the cornfield. One of you has been warned before.

Am I clear???????

Thank You.

 

[perserverance]

Redeye-
Absolutely, the IBEW will be returning to CLT..they never left. They
have people that they have a friendship with and they hope that these people
know that. The IBEW was or maybe still is headed to LGA and RDU but the car
accident took 2 of thier reps out of play, and the IBEW being the IBEW, it took
another 8 out of play (for alittle while) ..they all came back to see to the 2.These
people believe in what they preach. Talk to them ..ask questions..We have a chance
to make a difference. Stand up, reach out and be heard, the IAM has never acknowleded
you. Your not a ''machinist'' your a ''person'', no labels..you make this company . There
would be no other groups without you. Your over 7,700 strong..your the ''second hand''
on the clock. Everyone see's the time but you make it move. Talk to the IBEW..talk to
them, thier here...IAM is ''International Association of Machinist''... do you fit in there.

Thanks

 

[Tim Nelson]

HELLO BROTHERS AND SISTERS

I think this is a great forum for us to vent our frustration and share our ideas. I am glad to see the IBEW is so well received across the country. the fleet service group is a strong group of people with great ideas and even more passion. With your vast knowledge of this industry, and strong leadership at the highest level you could set the standard for all airlines in wages, benefits and work-rules. It is certainly deserved after the sacrifices you and your families have had to endure for far to long. Times are getting better for the airline, but male no mistake US AIRWAYS will never give you what you deserve without a fight. With that being said this is the best time to be at the bargaining table. After reading that TA I can see why this did not meet the expectations of the membership. At the end of the day thats all that matters. You guys control your fate. Not the leadership of the IAM or the IBEW for that matter. Your concerns MUST be addressed at any and every opportunity. After all you pay the salarys of your reps. Therefor when as a group you demands more, leadership MUST listen. Thats what leadership does, thats what they are paid to do. The IBEW brings real leadership to the table. The bargaining table, I put the IBEW's track record against any of the major unions in this country. On a personal note, when your highest paid worker makes just over 17.00 an hour, no rep, or at least not so many should be racking in 100,000.00 and up. NO WAY!!!!!

Thanks for your post. What you say pretty much sums up the IAM leadership on this property. Randy Canale has never fought for anything on this property. Not only has he and ALL of our AGC's and others who signed the last contract, never fought for anything, they are never around either. Funny, nobody even seen them for years until this IBEW campaign started.

I mean, Canale sez he fights and MF's the company but tough talk isn't fighting and the company isn't at all afraid of any one man or woman. The company's concern is the mobilization of the masses, which is the strength of unions. Canale has always divided workers and never tried to solidify them and I believe this is intentional so he can continue to have his appeasements with his boys in the Boardroom. It's clear to me, Canale wants to make sure United Airlines is taken care of.
He's Parker's and Tilton's boy. He walks on the beach with them and impresses them with backflips while they walk on sandy piss clams. It's a metaphor but it works.

regards,

 

[700UW]

Here is a look at one of their locals in NY the business manager makes over $100K as well does just the local officers!

go to here and search for IBEW Local Lodge 3 IBEW LM2s

Never seen an IAM local lodge officer make $145K.

 

[redeye]

A couple of reminders here:

Keep on topic and stop the insults and personal attacks.

Next one to call someone a name or use the name cupcake gets a week in the cornfield. One of you has been warned before.

Am I clear???????

Thank You.

CRYSTAL!!!!

 

[redeye]

IAM has never acknowledged you. Your not a ''machinist'' your a ''person'',
no labels..you make this company .

perserverance,

you are wrong,

The fleet service workers are acknowledged by the IAM in the Constitution.
I saw it on page xiii (Classification of work included)

"Other Work"

dont we have to show pride in being the "other workers"

I hope Frankie is one of the ones returning. I missed him last time

He is, how would us southerners say, "A Hoot"
And a very solid worker advocate.

 

[GoldenRam94]

couldn't be... some of the PHL 22 are involved in organizing IBEW

That is what some people do not want to acknowledge! You are not electing a new group of leaders, just rewarding a splintered faction of the PHL 22!

 

[Tim Nelson]

That is what some people do not want to acknowledge! You are not electing a new group of leaders, just rewarding a splintered faction of the PHL 22!

my understanding is that PHL has signed around 1500 IBEW cards. PHL stands behind the IBEW as Boss Canale couldn't keep 5 people in the meeting hall the other day. That's Canale's reward for his arrogance and United Airline serving ways.
Further, this is not a PHL thing. The IBEW is approaching 3,000 cards in less than 2 weeks. I think they will be over 3,000 and approach 4,000 in the next 14 days. We will know alot more in 30 days but IMO the IBEW may actually be capable of picking up 6,000 cards by then.

At any rate, this is not a splintered faction as you are trying to spin it. Committees have been set up most everywhere and the focus is on the IBEW organization. Sure, some personalities you may disagree with are pushing for it but any reward for getting the IBEW INTL union on the property will be given to the IAM. They are the ones that will get rewarded with a decert should the IBEW be successful.

regards,

 

[webi]

700

thanks for checking the IBEW website. www.IBEW.org I think you will find some great info about the IBEW there. Also feel free to check the local websites as well. Keep in mind 700, the highest paid member is making over 40.00 an hour with employer based benefits that include pension, health and welfare, annuity, vacation funds, ect. This is on top of the hourly wage. The leadership in the IBEW have the full confidence of membership, if they didn't those leaders would not hold there position. When your members are hungry, leaders cant be fat and happy

 

[dexter]

Main concern here is getting the IBEW cards signed as fast as possible to file for an election date. Stay on organizing topic and not what the each offical makes as a salary. The salary is and alway will be in place. What is needed is the cardcheck to make a difference, the salaries are a done deal.

 

[GoldenRam94]

700

thanks for checking the IBEW website. www.IBEW.org I think you will find some great info about the IBEW there. Also feel free to check the local websites as well. Keep in mind 700, the highest paid member is making over 40.00 an hour with employer based benefits that include pension, health and welfare, annuity, vacation funds, ect. This is on top of the hourly wage. The leadership in the IBEW have the full confidence of membership, if they didn't those leaders would not hold there position. When your members are hungry, leaders cant be fat and happy

They should, John Doc makes over 145K just from the union. Throw in some of the sweetheart deals that guys like Gus Dougherty threw into him, and the guy is easily worth millions.