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First: I did read the proposal.
Second: ............
Thanks for your time!
Labor Dawg
Power to the people!
Dawg, Believe it or not you and I are on the same page...for the most part. I respect your opinion, and I agree with a lot of what you say.
First: Good, I knew you read the TA. Was talking about the other proposals. I think it's crap that all stations did not get the chance to read more than the TA.
Second: I agree there was money wasted on the COC. No argument there.
Third: If I was in DCA I would be raising heck. That's wrong. I'd be filing.
Fourth: I guess we all have our opinions. Will be hard on those AGC's if they find themselves back on the ramp. I wonder how many were appointed and how many were elected. Will be interesting when the election comes up this spring.
Fifth: Never said the company hasn't been run into the ground. Just said it wouldn't benefit them to run it into the ground. We Do have all of us to thank for the profits we are making. You are right, management is getting fat and we are barely making it. A lot of us are NOT making it. Very sad.
Sixth: I know, I make crap. Single income family, 5 kids, hurting! Your singing to the choir here buddy. I'm working two jobs.
Seventh: Why wouldn't I admit the company's making huge profits? It's a fact. I don't lie, or twist the truth. Shooting straight, always do. Wish everyone on here did. If the sec 6 you are talking about is for the "west" you are 100% correct. They should be negotiating today. "East" side just can't open sec 6 right now, and that sucks! I blame the company though for the crap TA, not IAM. Sorry, know you think I'm wrong, but hey, we can disagree without getting all mad, can't we?
Eighth: Truer words have never been spoken.
Ninth: Yep, the company does seem to be using this bankruptcy thing as a business plan. Bad plan.
Tenth: We may not agree exactly on this one, but again, it's okay to disagree. The TA would have brought us together. Don't think the IAM was separating us on that. The "west" and class II cities are now separated with the COC. If won, it will be great for class 1's. That's it. "west" should be in sec 6 , as I said before, but then what about our class II cities? Where does that leave them? West moves forward with sec 6, class 1 big winners, class ll, well it is just bad for them isn't it? Best case would be...hmm. Is there a best case? Go back to the table for the group as a whole, ASAP? Not going to work so good I'm afraid when the company sees us as such a divided group. New union? I would worry about the ramp up time to get them going, maybe decertifying, then no worries about how long to get the players in place. Just a very bad place we are in. Do not take this to mean we should have voted in the TA. NOT saying that.
Eleventh: Still think for the most part they are the same. Just depends on who is voted in...or appointed. Just for the record, I disagree with appointments, and yeah, I know IBEW doesn't appoint, that's good.
Twelfth: Guess I'm just not hearing the IAM still pushing the agreement, but then again, not really talking to any of them so I guess I wouldn't hear it. In my station the "lackeys" that came in didn't push the TA. Just gave us the overview, showed the old proposals and let us at it. Again, am against the appointments of AGC's, elected only. Let's get those bylaws changed. Put change in to local to vote on next year. If we are still IAM. Should be a LOT of bylaw changes, okay maybe just 3 or 4, okay 5 maybe 6, off the top of my head.
Thirteenth: Thanks!
