2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[700UW]

I can vouch, I was RS when Joe Mac was Fleet's AGC in CLT, he mentored Steve, I was there and witnessed it.
 
Steve has come a long way over the years.
 
Just like Joe Mantineo mentored Tommy Regan.
 
I learned under Steve Cooke, Joe Mantineo, Vic Mazzacco and my main mentor was Tony Giammarco.

 

[700UW]

I am, that's why I'm not getting involved. But then again- unlike you- I don't have a hidden agenda.

A hidden agenda?
 
Please let me know, since it is hidden for me and I have no idea what it is.
 
And by you posting, you do involve yourself.

 

[Tim Nelson]

And I'm 100% sure Joe would not agree with Tim's opinion either.

True.
Stevie is a great guy and my opinion of him is nothing against his person, my opinion is strictly based on what he has done in contract settings. We can say with certainty that Stevie was part of that 2008 US AIRWAYS agreement that caused him to get voted out of District office once already when he was on Canale's team.
 
Since Delaney has 'reinstalled him' he has since had no problem endorsing the United POS.  He has an incredible amount of experience in F over members in contracts and those past actions are strong indicators that he simply hasn't made a difference.

 

[700UW]

You know its enough about the UA CBA.
 
Their members ratified it, the US Guys didnt negotiate it.
 
Find another red herring.

 

[blue collar]

A hidden agenda?
 
Please let me know, since it is hidden for me and I have no idea what it is.
 
And by you posting, you do involve yourself.

No, I don't involve myself. I haven't endorsed any candidate/slate, now will I. I honestly couldn't care less who wins. I'm also not the one telling some non members to butt out- while injecting their own personal views and calling them a hypocrite (last I checked, neither of you are currently 141, US, or UA).

 

[700UW]

Can anyone respond???  Any CLT members want to respond, has MF ever given you guys closeout letters? Ever?
 
1. Over the past 6 years, has any member received a closeout letter from his AGC regarding his/her grievance?
2. Over the past 6 years, has any Local Chairperson received a copy of the system quarterly grievance report?
 
Will Delaney's Team [yes we do have bylaws]   finally follow the bylaws and put together a quarterly report on all grievances at the Local Chairpersons conference? The members want to know. For reference, here is the bylaw:
Section 6. It shall be the responsibility of all Assistant General Chairmen to write close-out letters of all grievances that have been withdrawn, to Local Lodge Grievance Committee, Grievant and President/Directing General Chair.
Section 7. It shall be the responsibility of the President/Directing General Chairman to send to all Local Lodges Grievance Committee Chairmen a quarterly report from their respective agreement on all Third and Fourth Step grievances. The President/Directing General Chairman will send to all the Local Lodge Committee Chairmen within 30 days of receipt, copies of all System Board decisions

What about your hand picked guy Mike Crowell who disappeared and was removed from office and the IAM saved his job with US?
 
He dropped the ball on all his grievances and took all the files.
 
Talk about a POS.
 
Your hand picked guy for AGC.

 

[700UW]

No, I don't involve myself. I haven't endorsed any candidate/slate, now will I. I honestly couldn't care less who wins. I'm also not the one telling some non members to butt out- while injecting their own personal views and calling them a hypocrite (last I checked, neither of you are currently 141, US, or UA).

I havent endorsed any candidate, go find a post where I did.
 
I just post the history and the facts of what has transpired over the years.
 
Josh is a stalker and a fraud.
 
Most importantly he is a pathological liar.

 

[charlie Brown]

True.
Stevie is a great guy and my opinion of him is nothing against his person, my opinion is strictly based on what he has done in contract settings. We can say with certainty that Stevie was part of that 2008 US AIRWAYS agreement that caused him to get voted out of District office once already when he was on Canale's team.
 
Since Delaney has 'reinstalled him' he has since had no problem endorsing the United POS.  He has an incredible amount of experience in F over members in contracts and those past actions are strong indicators that he simply hasn't made a difference.

That's a bunch of crap again. You know good and well the 2008 t/a had nothing to do with Stevie getting voted out. The battle lines had already been drawn. The goal was to replace the whole team ( which was a mistake ) So a few good people like Stevie, was a great union guy simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[roabilly]

If one were to take the last six pages or so, and compare the exchanges between Charlie Brown and Nelson, it becomes clear who the politician is... I’ll give you hint... it ain’t Charlie!
 
In conclusion, I think CB cleaned Tim’s clock on this one!

 

[roabilly]

That's a bunch of crap again. You know good and well the 2008 t/a had nothing to do with Stevie getting voted out. The battle lines had already been drawn. The goal was to replace the whole team ( which was a mistake ) So a few good people like Stevie, was a great union guy simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Charlie,
 
For the record, WHO conceptualized, spearheaded, organized, and pushed for the entire team to be replaced in 08?

 

[700UW]

Charlie,
 
For the record, WHO conceptualized, spearheaded, organized, and pushed for the entire team to be replaced in 08?

None other than Tim "I want all the Power" Nelson.
 
Who led the charge to shoot down TA1 that had all the snapbacks in it?

 

[roabilly]

None other than Tim "I want all the Power" Nelson.
 
Who led the charge to shoot down TA1 that had all the snapbacks in it?

Bingo! How ironic... Tim’s actions ultimately lead to creating a situation that lead to a few great, dedicated Union Representatives getting axed!
 
This is why I swore I would always consider candidates from ALL slates before voting...

 

[Tim Nelson]

Bingo! How ironic... Tim’s actions ultimately lead to creating a situation that lead to a few great dedicated Union Representatives getting axed!
 
This is why I swore I would always consider candidates from ALL slates before voting...

stevie was responsible for that 2008 contract. People can vote how they may but i could never vote for someone who was responsible for that agreement.

 

[UnitedWeStand]

1. Over the past 6 years, has any member received a closeout letter from his AGC regarding his/her grievance?
2.  Over the past 6 years, has any Local Chairperson received a copy of the system quarterly grievance report?
 
I know when I was a Local Chairman, that Canale at least did give us quarterlies.  Has Delaney even did one?  Charlie Brown, at the Local Chairpersons conference, can you see to it that your boys finally put together a quarterly for the local chairpersons so they can take it back to the members?  You might want to remind your boys to follow the bylaws below,
 
 
Section 6. It shall be the responsibility of all Assistant General Chairmen to write close-out letters of all grievances that have been withdrawn, to Local Lodge Grievance Committee, Grievant and President/Directing General Chair.
Section 7. It shall be the responsibility of the President/Directing General Chairman to send to all Local Lodges Grievance Committee Chairmen a quarterly report from their respective agreement on all Third and Fourth Step grievances. The President/Directing General Chairman will send to all the Local Lodge Committee Chairmen within 30 days of receipt, copies of all System Board decisions.

If this is true, why as Chairman hasn't anyone brought up charges of dereliction of duty?
Section 1 says that Grievances that can't be settled by the Local Committee are referred to Delaney. If he knows all the outstanding grievances and hasn't acted on them with unnecessary delay, the buck should stop there.
It's within our Union Rights to make representatives accountable.
Delaney should be accountable. Am I wrong?

 

[UnitedWeStand]

I can vouch, I was RS when Joe Mac was Fleet's AGC in CLT, he mentored Steve, I was there and witnessed it.
 
Steve has come a long way over the years.
 
Just like Joe Mantineo mentored Tommy Regan.
 
I learned under Steve Cooke, Joe Mantineo, Vic Mazzacco and my main mentor was Tony Giammarco.

I thought Steve was Maccarone's nephew!!!

I remember Joe. When I asked him if the district recommended thumbs up or thumbs down when we were voting on the last best deal agreement during BK he refused a recommendation. He told me I needed to vote for it because otherwise the company would fold.
I lost respect for him after that.