2014 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

At least we can agree that Mel Brooks is a comedic genius.,.

 
No possible argument there. I'll go with The Producers (in it's orignal form) and Blazing Saddles as my top picks.

 

[snapthis]

No possible argument there. I'll go with The Producers (in it's orignal form) and Blazing Saddles as my top picks.

Blazing Saddles....hold the frijoles

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qpB3ME_Xem0

 

[nevergiveup]

 
No possible argument there. I'll go with The Producers (in it's orignal form) and Blazing Saddles as my top picks.

One more time!

 

[Beancounter]

I did not know that, if less than half of eligible voters cast ballots the election is invalid?

I think 2/3 majority required is getting confused with 2/3 required for vote.

Bean

 

[A320 Driver]

Regarding pilot shortage, get ready for 67.

I hope not. Thousands of applications...highly experienced pilots that can't get an interview. What pilot shortage?

 

[Piedmont1984]

I hope not. Thousands of applications...highly experienced pilots that can't get an interview. What pilot shortage?

ejet98, in post #6169, confirmed what I've been reading online and in print. Canada has already moved in that direction I think. Low starting pay, particularly at the regionals, along with the additional hoops one must jump through (which is a good thing), has to be a big disincentive.

Why can't they get an interview BTW?

 

[A320 Driver]

ejet98, in post #6169, confirmed what I've been reading online and in print. Canada has already moved in that direction I think. Low starting pay, particularly at the regionals, along with the additional hoops one must jump through (which is a good thing), has to be a big disincentive.

Why can't they get an interview BTW?

Additional requirements like having an initial in the last few years. Some of those guys flying for the regionals haven't been through one in years so they can't get an interview.
We just went through 5 years of stagnation. As soon as the hiring is complete for FAR 117 and contract changes, I'd bet that hiring slacks off. The big retirements don't start for another 3 or 4 years.
 
I don't think the Canadians can fly Captain after age 65. Sounds reasonable.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
I did not know that, if less than half of eligible voters cast ballots the election is invalid?

 
As you are aware, I'm not an attorney.  But it appears that  would be the case.  And that also would maintain the status quo.  

 

[nycbusdriver]

I hope not. Thousands of applications...highly experienced pilots that can't get an interview. What pilot shortage?

 
If the pilot is highly experienced and cannot get an inteview, it's probably that the majors are looking at other factors.  If I were running the hiring, I would be hiring from the competitors' express operations first.  
 
As someone else pointed out, the major players are confident in their ability to hire pilots since they all brag that their files contain 10,000 applications.
 
Unless they are sharing their databases, they probably have the same 10,000 applications, and probably upwards of 75% are stale, i.e. pilot already hired elsewhere, or unqualified.

 

[Phoenix]

Tastes great!!

...

Less filling!!

 

[exB717Flyer]

One word from the company's Answer to USAPA's suit:  "Unclean Hands".
It's like the old joke about the teenage boy who murders his parents then asks the judge for clemency since he's an orphan.

 

[Phoenix]

The APA counter suit::

"APA seeks a further declaration that, following USAPAs decertification as the collective bargaining representative for legacy US Airways pilots and its replacement by APA as the collective bargaining representative for all US Airways and American pilots, USAPA may only participate in the MOU seniority integration process if and to the extent deemed appropriate by APA."

The APA is your friend. Really, trust them implicitly. They will take care of everything. Relax. Close your eyes. Breath normally. Think about your "happy place". All is well.

 

[Piedmont1984]

Silver's use of the future subjunctive should have been more directly and aggressively challenged; specifically, her requirement for USAPA to impose self exile from the seniority integration process and more broadly that there will not be any need for arbitration (both which contradict each other) once SCS is determined.

APA seems to argue in their response that the MOU is a CBA. If the MOU can be construed to be a temporary JCBA, then the other condition of the MOU has been met; namely, once a JCBA is in place, arbitration can begin. The sooner the better, before the NMB makes a determination.

 

[snapthis]

"Uncle Bob's Mystery Pannel Dead Ahead. "

http://www.unclebobs.com

Mystery solved. I'm glad to see you are packing up and getting off our property.
 
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U-saps won't be missed.

Thanks for the laughs for your joke of a union.
 
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[Phoenix]

Silver's use of the future subjunctive should have been more directly and aggressively challenged; specifically, her requirement for USAPA to impose self exile from the seniority integration process and more broadly that there will not be any need for arbitration (both which contradict each other) once SCS is determined.
APA seems to argue in their response that the MOU is a CBA. If the MOU can be construed to be a temporary JCBA, then the other condition of the MOU has been met; namely, once a JCBA is in place, arbitration can begin. The sooner the better, before the NMB makes a determination.

Yes, Silver was a barrel of contradictions in her dicta. She was simply a politician ranting. In her actual orders she was a judge. The company is all too happy to magnify pilot division based on political rantings, and the APA is pursuing short term gain at the expense of long term unity.. The APA has become what they malign... They have become USAPA!