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CactusPilot1 said:
Did you get the message, Usapascab? I'll bet loser central has a box full.


Steve Bradford and Jess Pauley,
This message is to advise you and USAPA that the only reason I remain as a member of
USAPA is to be certain that when USAPA dissolves as required by its Constitution and
distributes its remaining assets to its members, I will be treated as a member and will
receive my share of those assets. I do not remain a member of USAPA for the purpose of
having USAPA represent my interests in the upcoming seniority integration proceedings
with the American Airline pilots. So there is no misunderstanding, I want to state clearly
and unequivocally that USAPA does not represent my interests in that proceeding. Only
the West Pilots Merger Committee, appointed by APA at the direction of the Preliminary
Arbitration Board, represents my interests in that proceeding.
 
 
This is all just entertaining.   The SLI will be what it will be.  LAA pilots and East pilots don't have to donate a single penny for MB...  Neither do West pilots, but nobody told them yet.  
 
FL430 said:
Another Spartan that can't read. I'll let every individual decide for themselves as I have previously provided the reference. And I wouldn't hang your hat on Capt Woods authority, he is way down the pecking order in case you haven't noticed.
" patriotic ties are allowed, but only ones purchased at the employee uniform store"
You didn't get them at the employee uniform store did you?
Phoenix said:
 
This is all just entertaining.
 
I predicted a long, long time ago after the merger announcement that the SLI would eventually go to arbitration and the end result will look a lot like UAL/CAL.  Its a no brainer.   By and large most people will accept the result as tolerable, and all but a few will realize it is indeed permanent at the very least.  A few charlatans will make profits by persuading the few dim bulbs to donate....  useless lawsuits, meet and greets, monthly donations, and ties.
 
The West will by far have spent the most out of pocket money and will have done nothing except play their role in what was inevitable anyway.... a fair SLI result that was decided by arbitrators while everyone danced around feeling self-important, but having no impact whatsoever.       
I'm equally entertained by clowns like you, Jess, Bradford and Dean.

We know how good you are with your predictions. I'm still wearing my Liberty tie rubbing it in scab430's face.
 
cactusboy53 said:
EXTREMELY well spent funds, my friend.  He has halted Date-of-Hire COMPLETELY.  He has managed to show the court system, the LUS management, and APA what a contemptable lot USAPA is built of.  He has managed to get the America West pilots a seat at the LUS/AA SLI table.  He and Freund will argue our case in front of a neutral arbitration panel (just like Freund did with the AWA/AAA SLI Arbitration), and give them a logical, salient argument on a fair integration.
 
You?  Well you deposited $10,000,000.00 in Lee Seham's account.  Then he left.  Then you got your current legal team that will serve you right up until the time you've run out of funds.  Epic FAIL.
Best of luck to you in the upcoming arbitration!
 
nevergiveup said:
Best of luck to you in the upcoming arbitration!
You really don't need luck if you educate yourself, prepare with logic, actual history, case law, legal ethics, and argue truth & facts. Thanks for the well wishes.

Dave
 
cactusboy53 said:
You really don't need luck if you educate yourself, prepare with logic, actual history, case law, legal ethics, and argue truth & facts. Thanks for the well wishes.
Dave
let us recap shall we? You lost 2 DFR's, you had a different contract, just like the legacy AA pilots, a different seniority list just like the LAA pilots, but you claim a position never embodied in any kind of contract , voted down a couple of times, MOU your base included and claim a cherry pick to that position, yes Good Luck!
 
Phoenix said:
 
(Personally, I don't have any concern if USAPA burns through every penny by the time it is all over.)  
 
Thieves and politicians love spending other people's money.
 
 
 
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end_of_alpa said:
ON THIS MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND LET US NOT FORGET THE SACRIFICES THE WEST PILOTS HAVE SUFFERED UNDER THE TYRANTS OF USAPA.
POSTED:  24 MAY 2015 (RIP)
 
Few would argue that history lessons are necessary when it comes to the difficult and oft times abusive merger history of America West Airlines. For over 8 years, USAPA has attempted to denigrate the result of the fair arbitration process which produced the Nicolau Award. During that time, the East pilots running USAPA have done nothing to advance US Airways Pilots’ collective interests. 
 
Fortunately, the merger of American Airlines and US Airways has released all US Airways pilots from the bonds of this deranged autocracy known as USAPA, whose actions while the certified bargaining agent prove that its sole purpose was to undo the Nicolau; the collective bargaining interests of all US Airways pilots be damned
 
While September 16, 2014 and January 9, 2015 are red-letter days in the arduous East/West history, there is still work to be accomplished. As we all know, the former bargaining agent (FBA) USAPA, through the East Pilot merger committee, has plans to continue its siege on the arbitral process by denying the fact that US Airways pilots have already been integrated via a fair process. Through recent legal pleadings, the FBA claims that it still represents all US Airways pilots during the coming seniority arbitration of the American Airlines and US Airways pilots despite the January 9, 2015 arbitration decision to the contrary. The former America West pilots have been recognized and awarded separate representation by the Allied Pilots Association during the negotiation and arbitration process set to commence next month. 
 
The immediate assistance of all former America West pilots is necessary (regardless of what USAPA asserts as your membership status in the FBA) to inform those running the FBA that West Pilots do not recognize either USAPA or the East Pilot Merger Committee as the West Pilots’ representative in any capacity, other than what remains to recover each US Airways pilots’ individual share of dues and assessment monies held in trust by the officers of the FBA. 
 
Please read the following memorandum (Memo: All Former America West Pilots), and follow the instructions provided within. Time is of the essence regarding this request as the arbitration hearings begin in late June 2015. 
 
Thank you for your prompt attention. 
 
Sincerely, 
 
 
Leonidas, LLC 
 
 
NEWS FLASH:  That MEMO appears to be a clever way to have a "free election" of the West Merger Committee members...
 




Brilliant.  For tracking purposes type your full name and use your personal email.... for tracking...who's tracking?  What exactly are they tracking?  Are they tracking the people that affirm the West Merger Committee's legality?  Has the West Merger Committee ever received the endorsement of any West Pilot in a free and fair election?....   
 
Send your letter to absolve USAPA from any responsibility whatsoever, and declare the West Committee speaks for you (remember AOL wanted the RIGHT but not the RESPONSIBILITY... The recommended email appears to affirm the former but is silent as to the latter...).
 
P.T. Barnum  
 
 
MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
let us recap shall we? You lost 2 DFR's, you had a different contract, just like the legacy AA pilots, a different seniority list just like the LAA pilots, but you claim a position never embodied in any kind of contract , voted down a couple of times, MOU your base included and claim a cherry pick to that position, yes Good Luck!
Keep clickin' those heels, Dorothy.  Kansas is around here somewhere.  You seen Toto around anywhere?
 
XOXO
The Scarecrow
 
Phoenix said:
 
 
 
NEWS FLASH:  That MEMO appears to be a clever way to have a "free election" of the West Merger Committee members...
 




Brilliant.  For tracking purposes type your full name and use your personal email.... for tracking...who's tracking?  What exactly are they tracking?  Are they tracking the people that affirm the West Merger Committee's legality?  Has the West Merger Committee ever received the endorsement of any West Pilot in a free and fair election?....   
 
Send your letter to absolve USAPA from any responsibility whatsoever, and declare the West Committee speaks for you (remember AOL wanted the RIGHT but not the RESPONSIBILITY... The recommended email appears to affirm the former but is silent as to the latter...).
 
P.T. Barnum  
 




 
Lucky for you that you are much smarter than our legal counsel.  We're just shakin' in our boots over here. 
 
"There's a sucker born every minute"  -  (likely) David Hannum (not P.T Barnum).  Although I would imagine that a professional service that promises the moon, gives you cheese and leaves (with MILLIONS) could say the same thing.
 
cactusboy53 said:
Keep clickin' those heels, Dorothy.  Kansas is around here somewhere.  You seen Toto around anywhere?
 
XOXO
The Scarecrow
yup truth and facts, the Wizard of Oz, ? We are LOFAO! Now PT Barnum! You go DS!
 
cactusboy53 said:
Lucky for you that you are much smarter than our legal counsel.  We're just shakin' in our boots over here. 
 
"There's a sucker born every minute"  -  (likely) David Hannum (not P.T Barnum).  Although I would imagine that a professional service that promises the moon, gives you cheese and leaves (with MILLIONS) could say the same thing.
 
 
Your legal counsel is just as adept as APA's counsel is at protecting their clients from lawsuits.   You should stick with them.   Curious though, how much will they bill for the whole production, collection, and tracking of the "statement" thingy.  (rhetorical)
 
CactusPilot1 said:
I'm equally entertained by clowns like you, Jess, Bradford and Dean.
We know how good you are with your predictions. I'm still wearing my Liberty tie rubbing it in scab430's face.

Mad much? Lol

I said soon genius, soon. Just watch. By the way, I like you idiots wearing those ties, just shows the world the pilots with room temperature IQ's. Oh, and what about your claim to wearing the ties at the town hall, I didn't see one. Not one. Coward.

Are you the one loosing $7k per month?

Remember a phyrric victory is still a victory scab.
 
MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
Your a piece of sh$t DAN!


A real lowlife scumbag he is, fits right in with the west scabs.

He reminds me of Barnes in the movie Platoon, when he shoots Elias in the jungle.
 
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