2015 Pilot Discussion.

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

My turn.
Do you know the difference between their and there? 😉

Well actually he does, the are stuck in PHX while Their EAST attrition leaves at a rate of 1 pilot a Day!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

More from the Ninth:
 
We do not address the thorny question of the extent to which the Nicolau Award is binding on USAPA. We note, as the district court recognized, that USAPA is at least as free to abandon the Nicolau Award as was its predecessor, ALPA. The dissent appears implicitly to assume that the Nicolau Award, the product of the internal rules and processes of ALPA, is binding on USAPA.
 
Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Opinion

Case: 09-16564 06/04/2010

. Dave that word dissent, now does that have any meaning or to you is it a their there issue?

 

[EastCheats]

It's the long way v to over seas trip and wine

 
 

Well actually he does, the are stuck in PHX while Their EAST attrition leaves at a rate of 1 pilot a Day!

 
The are stuck in PHX. Are you related to Luv?
 
Overseas trip and Wine. What region? Bordeaux, Chianti, Port, Rhine, Rioja?
 

 

[Claxon]

Here comes June. Soon the west merger committee will roll out their plan for east pilots that reaches far back beyond the status quo date. west pilots will try and pick convenient dates that suit their plan to roll over thousands of pilots who were recalled at the status quo date. How will the west pilots face thousands of APA Legacy American pilots and try and discount years of service as if they never occurred?
Soon the anger of tens of thousands of APA pilots will face the west.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Here comes June. Soon the west merger committee will roll out their plan for east pilots that reaches far back beyond the status quo date. west pilots will try and pick convenient dates that suit their plan to roll over thousands of pilots who were recalled at the status quo date. How will the west pilots face thousands of APA Legacy American pilots and try and discount years of service as if they never occurred?

 
 
You don't know what you are talking about. Get a clue.
 

 

[EastCheats]

Soon the anger of tens of thousands of APA pilots will face the west.

 
Oh, the horror 
 

 

[snapthis]

Here comes June. Soon the west merger committee will roll out their plan for east pilots that reaches far back beyond the status quo date. west pilots will try and pick convenient dates that suit their plan to roll over thousands of pilots who were recalled at the status quo date. How will the west pilots face thousands of APA Legacy American pilots and try and discount years of service as if they never occurred?
Soon the anger of tens of thousands of APA pilots will face the west.

Dream on.

http://www..com/watch?v=hHRNSeuvzlM&sns=em

 

[cactusboy53]

So you gave away HOW MUCH MONEY??
 
[SIZE=12pt]From the USAPA NAC Update (March/April 2012), authored by Paul DiOrio &  Dean Colello:[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]“During negotiations you have heard references to an ‘Industry Standard’ contract and the ‘Kirby’ proposal.  USAPA has always defined ‘Industry Standard’ as any recently negotiated, non 9/11, non-bankruptcy era contract. Of course we are only referring to contracts negotiated at major carriers. As of today these airlines include Southwest, Delta, JetBlue and Alaska, however we continue to update the standard as new contracts are negotiated. The Kirby proposal is the company comprehensive proposal that has remained unchanged since May 2007.”[/SIZE]

 

[cactusboy53]

. Dave that word dissent, now does that have any meaning or to you is it a their there issue?

You did see the video of the appeal to the 9th, right?  Any guesses on which judge did a lion share of the questioning of Harper?  Did you follow the path of bread crumbs he laid out to his judicial peers? 
 
I would not hazzard a guess on how the 9th will rule.  I gave that up a long time ago.  It was interesting testimony & discussion though.

 

[CactusPilot1]

So you gave away HOW MUCH MONEY??
 
[SIZE=12pt]From the USAPA NAC Update (March/April 2012), authored by Paul DiOrio &  Dean Colello:[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]“During negotiations you have heard references to an ‘Industry Standard’ contract and the ‘Kirby’ proposal.  USAPA has always defined ‘Industry Standard’ as any recently negotiated, non 9/11, non-bankruptcy era contract. Of course we are only referring to contracts negotiated at major carriers. As of today these airlines include Southwest, Delta, JetBlue and Alaska, however we continue to update the standard as new contracts are negotiated. The Kirby proposal is the company comprehensive proposal that has remained unchanged since May 2007.”[/SIZE]

 
I expect the streak to continue. Continued updates with nothing negotiated. Good thing they don't negotiate for me.
 

 

[Freighterguynow]

You don't know what you are talking about. Get a clue.

You need to maintain a consistent line of reasoning. Furloughed American, America West or US Airways

 

[Hope777]

They broke another one? Idiots
 
I wonder if Billy Mays could have survived their 3.8 G landing?


"Brash TV pitchman Billy Mays, whose ubiquitous ads for household products like OxiClean and Orange Glo made him a pop icon, was found dead at his Tampa home on Sunday morning.

The booming-voiced Mays, 50, died just hours after suffering a blow to the head during a rough plane landing on a US Airways flight."


 

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7955223

 

[Claxon]

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT: BYBEE, Circuit Judge, dissenting:
 
Here, the absence of a CBA is itself powerful evidence of a DFR violation. As set forth quite fairly in the majority opinion and in a lengthy and careful opinion by the district court, the Air Line Pilots Association (“ALPA”) was decertified and a new union, the U.S. Airline Pilots Association (“USAPA”), certified precisely to frustrate implementation of the Nicolau Agreement and to negotiate a CBA with U.S. Airways that favors the East Pilots. As the district court found, “USAPA’s sole objective in adopting and presenting its seniority proposal to the Airline was to benefit East Pilots at the expense of West Pilots, rather than to benefit the bargaining union as a whole.” Thus, “the terms of USAPA’s seniority proposal are substantially less favorable to West Pilots than the Nicolau Award” made through binding arbitration, an award that “USAPA concedes that it will never bargain for.”
 
Yet another jurist fully exposing USAPA for exactly they they are and who they represent.

Wake, Bybee and Silver do a fair bit of golfing with Bobby Baldocks daddy.

 

[Claxon]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7955223

Nice try Cactus1/Eastcheats.

 

[EastCheats]

Nice try Cactus1/Eastcheats.

Nice landing Captain 😉

Infomercial Celebrity Billy Mays Dies After Flight

Television infomercial celebrity Billy Mays died in his sleep less than a day after he was involved in a landing incident where he was struck in the head by one or more falling objects. US Airways Flight 1241, a 737-400, departed from Philadelphia, PA just after noon on June 27, 2009 on a nonstop flight to Tampa, FL.

The aircraft experienced a hard landing, which ruptured the two nose wheel tires. The aircraft remained on the runway and the 138 passengers and five crew members, none of whom at the time appeared to be seriously injured, were taken to the terminal. Billy Mays was interviewed by a reporter from WTVT television in Tampa shortly after the incident and stated that he had been hit on the head by something falling from the ceiling.