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EastCheats said:
Nice landing Captain 😉
Infomercial Celebrity Billy Mays Dies After Flight
Television infomercial celebrity Billy Mays died in his sleep less than a day after he was involved in a landing incident where he was struck in the head by one or more falling objects. US Airways Flight 1241, a 737-400, departed from Philadelphia, PA just after noon on June 27, 2009 on a nonstop flight to Tampa, FL.
The aircraft experienced a hard landing, which ruptured the two nose wheel tires. The aircraft remained on the runway and the 138 passengers and five crew members, none of whom at the time appeared to be seriously injured, were taken to the terminal. Billy Mays was interviewed by a reporter from WTVT television in Tampa shortly after the incident and stated that he had been hit on the head by something falling from the ceiling.

He was hit on the head when an overhead bin was opened. Only a west pilot believes a briefcase hit on the head results in a heart attack.
 
Claxon said:
Hey Cactuspilot. You better watch the May 28 Doug Parker Dallas crew news. Doug lays it on your argument hard. " The east and west pilot group NEVER merged"
You got thrown right in the hurt locker.
Dave Simmons will have a hard time lying his way out of this one.
You're kidding, right?  I can't remember the last time I went to a Crew News.  All the company does is tell you how great things are, are going to be, and dodge/deflect/obfuscate questions that make them uncomfortable.  What's funny too is what we are told vs. what government agencies can sometimes not be exactly the same.
 
You're in another merger boys.  Tell me, are you going to honor the arbitrated award this time?  Will you be crossing your fingers?  Will you seek (ANOTHER) "do-over"? 
 
I don't know how the arbitrators will rule, BUT I and my group will HONOR our WORD and abide by the arbitrated result (AGAIN).  What say "you'se"?  Can we trust you this time?
 
Claxon said:
He was hit on the head when an overhead bin was opened. Only a west pilot believes a briefcase hit on the head results in a heart attack.
 
Maybe in your world of unstable approaches, it's normal for luggage to fly out the overhead bins. Nice landing Captain :lol:
 
Awe Billy, shake it off, you'll be fine 😉
 
 
EastCheats said:
Maybe in your world of unstable approaches, it's normal for luggage to fly out the overhead bins. Nice landing Captain :lol:
 
Awe Billy, shake it off, you'll be fine 😉
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one with those "professionals"

Not to mention that landing last week in MSP that has taken yet another plane out of service.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one with those "professionals"

Not to mention that landing last week in MSP that has taken yet another plane out of service.
 
 
What pen name did the captain use for the logbook?
 
cactusboy53 said:
cactusboy53
Posted Today, 05:01 PM
 
You're kidding, right?  I can't remember the last time I went to a Crew News.  All the company does is tell you how great things are, are going to be, and dodge/deflect/obfuscate questions that make them uncomfortable. 
 
 
cactusboy 53, Watched the latest phx town hall meeting video.  You do not like the videos, I know why.  If any of your 675 tie constituents complain you probably tell them your lame, alpa inspired mantra "did you attend a meeting."  Yes they did dave and they asked scott point blank about their future, scott gave them the "inconvenient truth",
phx island.
 
In the phx island videos lately? Where is johnny mac,mitch vasalino, dave simmons, fergie, koontz, tony the angry tbone, "watch out east safety first pilots" eric auxier, marc peeper, brice lecarre movie creator?????
 
They are consuming a large humble pie baked by Mark King.
 
Paraphrasing your historical west legacy video meetings;
 
 johnny mac, "hey doug East pilots are slowing down".
mitch vaselino; "hey scott I am a 10th tier law school student, I will sue you."
eastcheats;   "East, we hate you." "leeetigation"
 
I know why you do not go to the meetings dave simmons, leader of the west pilots, clicking the link below will provide an explanation for you.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA
 
EastCheats said:
........ do you not think it is not a good idea to push the thrust levers up to TOGA for a little extra power for things like a go-around? .....

TOGA is only a suggestion, right? 😉
 
How many catastrophic engine failures have you personally experienced that ever allowed for "a little extra power" to be had from essentially destroyed engines? I never had much luck with any with severe fan section damage myself, but your actual mileage may vary, and I'm sure we could all benefit from your vast "experience" there, so just what "spartan magic" would you have brought to the situation to instantly heal those engines, and presumably, only through the sheer might of your infantile ego, produced predictably safe levels of thrust to sustain flight to any runway? All on board 1549 survived. Permit me to doubt they'd have done so with your sort at the helm.
 
EastCheats said:
Since the thrust levers were never placed in the TOGA detent, we will never know will we? 😉
 
"Good" point!...A Spilt-S was never tried either, for that matter....Umm...No matter here, I suppose: Hearty congrats! It's not beyond real possibility that, by suggesting the brilliant "logic" of essentially; Aw heck...just try it anyway!/"we will never know will we" that you've actually succeeded in entering the most singularly stupid line of "reasoning" to ever be seen in the whole history of human flight. I must say that's actually surprising, but most impressive indeed...even coming from a "spartan"....
 
cactusboy53 said:
BUT I and my group will HONOR our WORD and abide by the arbitrated result (AGAIN). 
 
Well good for "you'se"..although it's tragic that through even your own postings; you clearly know the Nic arbitration to be neither "Final" nor "Binding" as you speak of abiding by yet a whole other arbitration instead, well....Just have fun in PHX for at least the next year and half to two years, or who even knows?...and try not to drown in those vast oceans of "HONOR" you're clearly struggling to even stay afloat in meanwhile.
 
"Leonidas Update May 24, 2015:
 
The immediate assistance of all former America West pilots is necessary..."
 
Give 'till it hurts, and don't forget to buy a whole bunch more of those "Liberty" ties kiddies. If no sane reason can be found to do so; think at least of maintaining the "HONOR" of your supposed little "army" that exists only in Fantasyland...If even upholding "HONOR" isn't sufficient motivation to donate...just consider all those poor little "wizards" in PHX that might well need new wands/capes/etc, by now:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lgU3J5seA
 
cactusboy53 said:
You're kidding, right?  I can't remember the last time I went to a Crew News.  All the company does is tell you how great things are, are going to be, and dodge/deflect/obfuscate questions that make them uncomfortable.  What's funny too is what we are told vs. what government agencies can sometimes not be exactly the same.
 
You're in another merger boys.  Tell me, are you going to honor the arbitrated award this time?  Will you be crossing your fingers?  Will you seek (ANOTHER) "do-over"? 
 
I don't know how the arbitrators will rule, BUT I and my group will HONOR our WORD and abide by the arbitrated result (AGAIN).  What say "you'se"?  Can we trust you this time?
Well, once again for the slow among us that keep asking this question...

Yes we will, yes you will, yes the APA will all honor this arbitration...
There isn't a choice, this isn't an in-house deal. This is real, has federal backing and is law..

Quite different than alpa's nic....

That being said, I'm not so sure the APA will allow the unknown to come to pass...they may proffer an offer to the LUS pilots very acceptable and favorable to there rank and file at APA.

So, when APA makes an offer not to one rouse to the LUS pilots and the west contingent forces it to arbitration because they will not agree. The arb's will have to decide.... go against the acceptable wishes of 13,500 (APA And LUS) or force the west to accept via arbitration an acceptable SLI.

How will it go down, oh... I don't know, you guess.......
 
im back..!! said:
Well, once again for the slow among us that keep asking this question...

Yes we will, yes you will, yes the APA will all honor this arbitration...
There isn't a choice, this isn't an in-house deal. This is real, has federal backing and is law..

Quite different than alpa's nic....

That being said, I'm not so sure the APA will allow the unknown to come to pass...they may proffer an offer to the LUS pilots very acceptable and favorable to there rank and file at APA.

So, when APA makes an offer not to one rouse to the LUS pilots and the west contingent forces it to arbitration because they will not agree. The arb's will have to decide.... go against the acceptable wishes of 13,500 (APA And LUS) or force the west to accept via arbitration an acceptable SLI.

How will it go down, oh... I don't know, you guess.......
 
I think I can uncharitably supply a sadly predictable general answer to the requested guess: "But, But!..."This is Sparta!'..."Final and Binding!"....The Nic is IT!"...."We saved you!"...."an inexorable glacier of righteousness!"..."The nic will be crammed down your throats!"....."HONOR"!...."WAAAH!"
 
EastCheats said:
Since the thrust levers were never placed in the TOGA detent, we will never know will we? 😉
 
P.S. I dare say that the whole world might benefit greatly from a better-informed and fully expert opinion on just exactly what that would've accomplished for FLT 1549, so hold back nothing and instruct us all, step-by-step, on what you would have done differently and to what effect? Delve as deeply as you must into your personal experiences and expertise on both the aircraft's systems and the situation as it presented itself.....Well? A suggested starting point would naturally be that of the affect of "TOGA" on engines that wouldn't even allow themselves to be restarted due to their severely damaged condition? I'll plead woeful ignorance of Airbus "magic" but have some idea of the results of destroyed fan and/or compressor blade sections. I'm an admitted "ancient" but always willing to learn, so help me out here....?
 
EastCheats said:
Since the thrust levers were never placed in the TOGA detent, we will never know will we? 😉
 
P.P.S. Let no "spartan soldier"/"battle"-tested-and "valor"-soaked- "knight"/"dire wolf" or even wizard shirk their proper duty in instructing the world how best to fly, simply from fear of reasonable ridicule and laughter, since that last ship sailed long ago anyway.....
 
Wager's always open kids, and I'm "amazed" that the likes of cactusboy53's only laughably supposed notions of "HONOR" doesn't compel at least one of "you'se" to take it up...?
 
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